Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Sebastian Ohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: here is a new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin. this one has a Is this for matchbox-panel? If so, can you please mention matchbox-panel in the package description? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 07.09.2008, 16:25 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Ohl: On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 18:01 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: I hope you are not scared by this list :-) I hope that i don't miss anything :-) here is a new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin. this one has a matchbox keyboard button and nicer icons. i hope that i find the time to add the double click feature in the near future. here are the new urls: http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.2-1_all.deb http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin-0.2-1.diff.gz http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.2-1.dsc ^ that seems to be broken, at least I get some HMTL around the file itself. http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin-0.2.orig.tar.gz If you have any suggestions how to further improve the packaging i'll be happy to hear. Sure, I’ll have a look later, once I could download it. how can we integrate this package to the debian-fso repository ? If it’s fine, I’ll just upload it to the pkg-fso repository. If you want to be in touch with development, please join http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-fso-maint Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
If you have any suggestions how to further improve the packaging i'll be happy to hear. how can we integrate this package to the debian-fso seems, the .desktop file is gone? at least the plugin isn't any longer in the menu and dpkg -L does not show one. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power drain on slee, Was: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Christian Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: same here - i put freerunner to sleep ('apm -s') when i myself went Don't use apm -s directly. Before calling apm -s zhone will ask frameworkd to do all sorts of setup for proper suspend. If you don't do these the phone will wake when you e.g. move to different GSM cell. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power drain on slee, Was: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moinmoin same here - i put freerunner to sleep ('apm -s') when i myself went to bed about 7h ago. i had to remove/reinsert the battery and insert wall-charger to wake fr up again. (kernel from 2008/08/27) regards, morlac Am 28.08.2008 um 21:07 schrieb arne anka: is there any difference ? afaik only insofar as frameworkd sedates the modem before calling. re the draining: there _has_ to be a change in the latest updates. i tried to resume my fr a few minutes ago -- and it was stone dead! after putting on usb and a second, successful attempt (into 2007.2 since it is the default) amp said the battery was at 0%!! after only about 13h and most of the time suspended. - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIumCyr81gVylJyzERArtVAKD1q44lItTIyKzYrhyHz85oxs5bhACgo5QE S7sQBumBhuNHQ9IO8u4rSPk= =WLv0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Thank you Michele and Sebastian, The Right click works and it completes the desktop functionality for me. I am more than ecstatic with Debian on Freerunner. on an off note; I was testing suspend time day before yesterday, battery 100%, Zhone,xterm,keyboard running(minimum apps I need). Suspended FR at 3AM. tried to wake it up at 9AM (6hrs). FR battery is dead. battery reads 3.16V on multimeter. FR refuses to boot/charge the battery. Had to find a different battery to boot then hot swap the battery while charging to get back my FR. Lesson learned: Neo likes to be plugged in when (user is) asleep. Thanks -GK On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is the Sebastian Ohl patch: http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb Remember, than before to restart you have to recalibrate your screen downloading http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/pointercal in /etc/pointercal Regards Michele Renda Ganesha Krishna wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To have the right click you can use also the Sebastian tslib patch (is a simple deb package to instal). I did a quick search of the archives/wiki but could not find a .deb package/link. Could some one please point me in the right direction? In this way you can simulate the right click pushing the pointer for a longer time. A right click will be greatly liberating, its a bit claustrophobic without it. Michele Renda Thanks -GK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFItW5mSIAU/I6SkT0RAkpMAKCI9KW+v2rwt9lEAmonzSYZZG11NACfQq2Y 7jD71bWXK0WxnP1PO2ynSNo= =mD03 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Power drain on slee, Was: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
HI, Am Donnerstag, den 28.08.2008, 12:19 +0530 schrieb Ganesha Krishna: on an off note; I was testing suspend time day before yesterday, battery 100%, Zhone,xterm,keyboard running(minimum apps I need). Suspended FR at 3AM. tried to wake it up at 9AM (6hrs). FR battery is dead. battery reads 3.16V on multimeter. FR refuses to boot/charge the battery. Had to find a different battery to boot then hot swap the battery while charging to get back my FR. Lesson learned: Neo likes to be plugged in when (user is) asleep. Quite strange, my Freerunner stays reliably in sleep (unless someone calls and I don’t notice, of course), and consumes only a reasonable amount of power – about what Timo reported in the “29 hours in suspend = 70% battery left” thread. I use the kernel from 2008-08-05 (too lazy to upgrade). What’s yours? Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power drain on slee, Was: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:10 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on an off note; I was testing suspend time day before yesterday, battery 100%, Zhone,xterm,keyboard running(minimum apps I need). Suspended FR at 3AM. tried to wake it up at 9AM (6hrs). FR battery is dead. battery reads 3.16V on multimeter. FR refuses to boot/charge the battery. Had to find a different battery to boot then hot swap the battery while charging to get back my FR. Lesson learned: Neo likes to be plugged in when (user is) asleep. Quite strange, my Freerunner stays reliably in sleep (unless someone calls and I don't notice, of course), and consumes only a reasonable amount of power – about what Timo reported in the 29 hours in suspend = 70% battery left thread. I use the kernel from 2008-08-05 (too lazy to upgrade). What's yours? uname says 2.6.24, I installed Debian last friday night. have not upgraded since. there has to be crucial change in one of the last updates. i upgraded tuesday night and seem to see the same problem -- i still use the kernel from installation, but the power goes down really quick. took it from the charger at about 8:00 and now it is at about 40%, though i had it suspending. There are some (good?) developments to the story. After completely recharging the battery (100% as shown by the gadget pannel) I put it to sleep at 2PM, intending to wake it up in 4 hours. The boss calls a meeting etc etc and I am able look at the FR only at 9PM (7hrs). I open the FR fully expecting to go thru the hot swap process again BUT, viola FR wakes up and it still has 48% juice (3.8V open circuit). These only difference between this experiment and the 6hrs total drain is that Experiment 1: 6 hrs total drain 1. FR has been running, sleeping etc for more than 12 hrs. 2. Was plugged in most of the time. 3. the performance of the phone was already extremely sluggish (due to long up time ?) 4. battery charged to 100% 5. put to sleep Experiment 2 : 7hrs and 48% left 1. The battery was totally drained. 2. battery charged to 100% thru AC adapter 3. put to sleep _immedietly_ (* this step could be the key) Before putting to sleep in exp 1, 'top' had showed 'events/0' taking upto 60% CPU time averaging around 35 -40%, second in line was python (I have openmoko-panel-plugin running) at 14% and above. I am just putting these numbers out, I have not idea if/how these will have any effect at all on the sleep time. Thanks, -GK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power drain on slee, Was: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Before putting to sleep what exactly are you doing when putting to sleep? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power drain on slee, Was: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:10 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before putting to sleep what exactly are you doing when putting to sleep? Good question, before the power drain experiment, I tried the hold power button for 2 seconds. that did not work at all (I atributed it to sluggish UI, hardware stuck some where ('events')). I also have shell script on desktop that does apm -s. so I ran it to 'put FR to sleep'. Today Holding down power button for 2 seconds worked. This difference did not register in my mind until you asked. thanks. is there any difference ? I had disabled all radios except GSM in both cases ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power drain on slee, Was: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
is there any difference ? afaik only insofar as frameworkd sedates the modem before calling. re the draining: there _has_ to be a change in the latest updates. i tried to resume my fr a few minutes ago -- and it was stone dead! after putting on usb and a second, successful attempt (into 2007.2 since it is the default) amp said the battery was at 0%!! after only about 13h and most of the time suspended. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
You can re size the tray by _right clicking_* on the top bar and go to properties. on one of the tabs there is a minimum size field. it should be set to 300, change it to some thing smaller (I set it to 200). This should bring up all the *_right clicking_ : We dont have a right click. one can get by most of the GUI without it, but for situations like this, this is what I do 1. Run keyboard! (Everything will be revealed, just bare with me) 2. go to Xfce menu - settings-mouse settings 3. select Left Handed ! Now all your taps become right clicks, woohoo. 4. Do you right click thing. 5. no tap on Right handed radio button, it gets highlighted 6. click space on the keyboard that you ran in step 1 to select right handed. we are back to normal If you have lost the key board in between just tap (Rclick) on the desk top and xfce menu appears, tap on the menu a couple of times and they do open submenu and you can run keyboard from under accessories. There could be an easier way to do this (of course there is a patch to enable right click too I think). Thanks -GK On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think you simply need more space for the trayicon. Move it in a bar with more space and you will get all the buttons. Michele Renda C R McClenaghan wrote: Sebastian, Having started it from the application menu (at first was missing python-gtk2) I see only GSM and WiFI icons - no batery, GPS or BT? What else do I need to do to get all? Chris On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Sebastian Ohl wrote: On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 19:06 +0200, arne anka wrote: uhm, how does one use it? It should appear somewhere in your windowmanagers application menu(in xfce in submenu other) or you can start it on a console via /usr/bin/openmoko-panel-plugin -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFItN0xSIAU/I6SkT0RAro4AJ9Krrj/gnN6lhmWSU+kCk/a4be+iQCfe5/Y 7OMygLNr1Un+8nuGC7QJma4= =Rgvq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To have the right click you can use also the Sebastian tslib patch (is a simple deb package to instal). In this way you can simulate the right click pushing the pointer for a longer time. Michele Renda Ganesha Krishna wrote: You can re size the tray by _right clicking_* on the top bar and go to properties. on one of the tabs there is a minimum size field. it should be set to 300, change it to some thing smaller (I set it to 200). This should bring up all the *_right clicking_ : We dont have a right click. one can get by most of the GUI without it, but for situations like this, this is what I do 1. Run keyboard! (Everything will be revealed, just bare with me) 2. go to Xfce menu - settings-mouse settings 3. select Left Handed ! Now all your taps become right clicks, woohoo. 4. Do you right click thing. 5. no tap on Right handed radio button, it gets highlighted 6. click space on the keyboard that you ran in step 1 to select right handed. we are back to normal If you have lost the key board in between just tap (Rclick) on the desk top and xfce menu appears, tap on the menu a couple of times and they do open submenu and you can run keyboard from under accessories. There could be an easier way to do this (of course there is a patch to enable right click too I think). Thanks -GK On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you simply need more space for the trayicon. Move it in a bar with more space and you will get all the buttons. Michele Renda C R McClenaghan wrote: Sebastian, Having started it from the application menu (at first was missing python-gtk2) I see only GSM and WiFI icons - no batery, GPS or BT? What else do I need to do to get all? Chris On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Sebastian Ohl wrote: On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 19:06 +0200, arne anka wrote: uhm, how does one use it? It should appear somewhere in your windowmanagers application menu(in xfce in submenu other) or you can start it on a console via /usr/bin/openmoko-panel-plugin -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFItQrZSIAU/I6SkT0RAqLvAJ9JgIgn8hkdE3dHFAX4ywe+H7THHQCgn+w3 FqZ6nBw3sHphvn+x1INlMrc= =QIpZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Hi, On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 18:07 -0700, C R McClenaghan wrote: Having started it from the application menu (at first was missing python-gtk2) I see only GSM and WiFI icons - no batery, GPS or BT? What else do I need to do to get all? first, i will take a look a the package dependencies. for the battey etc. you may have to many other icons in your panel. the pager applet took a lot of space. if there are too many the openmoko panel plugin starts to move to the right out of the window. but thats no problem with the plugin but with the plugin mechanism. so try to remove i.e. the pager or make the tasklist plugin a litte bit smaller. -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To have the right click you can use also the Sebastian tslib patch (is a simple deb package to instal). I did a quick search of the archives/wiki but could not find a .deb package/link. Could some one please point me in the right direction? In this way you can simulate the right click pushing the pointer for a longer time. A right click will be greatly liberating, its a bit claustrophobic without it. Michele Renda Thanks -GK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is the Sebastian Ohl patch: http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb Remember, than before to restart you have to recalibrate your screen downloading http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/pointercal in /etc/pointercal Regards Michele Renda Ganesha Krishna wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To have the right click you can use also the Sebastian tslib patch (is a simple deb package to instal). I did a quick search of the archives/wiki but could not find a .deb package/link. Could some one please point me in the right direction? In this way you can simulate the right click pushing the pointer for a longer time. A right click will be greatly liberating, its a bit claustrophobic without it. Michele Renda Thanks -GK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFItW5mSIAU/I6SkT0RAkpMAKCI9KW+v2rwt9lEAmonzSYZZG11NACfQq2Y 7jD71bWXK0WxnP1PO2ynSNo= =mD03 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
oops! the .deb is right on the top of this thread! sorry (in my defence, it says left click near the link ) Thanks, -GK On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Ganesha Krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To have the right click you can use also the Sebastian tslib patch (is a simple deb package to instal). I did a quick search of the archives/wiki but could not find a .deb package/link. Could some one please point me in the right direction? In this way you can simulate the right click pushing the pointer for a longer time. A right click will be greatly liberating, its a bit claustrophobic without it. Michele Renda Thanks -GK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Adams wrote: moinmoin i am running [EMAIL PROTECTED] with xdm/xfce/sebastians tslib-patch and visible cursor on 8G sandisk-SD. simple clicks are no problem, but right-click is a little bit tricky sometimes due to the cursor jiggling around the steady stylus aprox 5px .. has someone an idea to stop this jiggling somehow? I think it can be regulated the tolleance of the right: i remember I read this value (horizz and vert tollerance) was coded inside the patch. I think is can be modified! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFItXiBSIAU/I6SkT0RAh7ZAJ97uIm4nFGWLQwyf2MfHsCXXD+6ZwCfR3r9 xmTzRGDTBTBwEp4KFzmSCJw= =voHk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 17:43 +0200, Christian Adams wrote: i am running [EMAIL PROTECTED] with xdm/xfce/sebastians tslib-patch and visible cursor on 8G sandisk-SD. simple clicks are no problem, but right-click is a little bit tricky sometimes due to the cursor jiggling around the steady stylus aprox 5px .. yes there is a threshold where the curser has to stay for a while. it is 4px (as in libgtkstylus). has someone an idea to stop this jiggling somehow? to workaround this by using a higher threshold is no solution. but you can add a filter plugin to tslib or choose different parameters. there is already a tslib filter plugin to reduce noise from a touchscreen. -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 thanks for hint - will try when at home again later (found this: http://www.postnuklear.de/xorg-patches ..) regards, morlac Am 27.08.2008 um 17:53 schrieb Michele Renda: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Adams wrote: moinmoin i am running [EMAIL PROTECTED] with xdm/xfce/sebastians tslib-patch and visible cursor on 8G sandisk-SD. simple clicks are no problem, but right-click is a little bit tricky sometimes due to the cursor jiggling around the steady stylus aprox 5px .. has someone an idea to stop this jiggling somehow? I think it can be regulated the tolleance of the right: i remember I read this value (horizz and vert tollerance) was coded inside the patch. I think is can be modified! - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFItYUZr81gVylJyzERAlrqAKCVeYGEkHkj6iOKn6X7EdFC9+RxdQCgsnPG fQSdlm1jCrK9IDYhYxaHbwg= =B8fu -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Hi, On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 19:29 +0200, Christian Adams wrote: and how would i add a filter plugin to tslib? i found nothing apropirate on a quick-search .. http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/tslib/trunk/tslib/README?rev=26view=markup more documentation can be found in the sourcecode of the filter (some dirs up). they are doing no magic here. may be a more sophisticated filter(i.e. kalman- or paticlefilter) may be better. the plugin structure is quite easy but currently i don't have time to code one. hopefully your problems will be solved by the already available filters. -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Sebastian, Having started it from the application menu (at first was missing python-gtk2) I see only GSM and WiFI icons - no batery, GPS or BT? What else do I need to do to get all? Chris On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Sebastian Ohl wrote: On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 19:06 +0200, arne anka wrote: uhm, how does one use it? It should appear somewhere in your windowmanagers application menu(in xfce in submenu other) or you can start it on a console via /usr/bin/openmoko-panel-plugin -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
What windowmanager are you using? Try running it from the command line and see if there is any output. -Tom - Original Message - From: C R McClenaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:07:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop Sebastian, Having started it from the application menu (at first was missing python-gtk2) I see only GSM and WiFI icons - no batery, GPS or BT? What else do I need to do to get all? Chris On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Sebastian Ohl wrote: On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 19:06 +0200, arne anka wrote: uhm, how does one use it? It should appear somewhere in your windowmanagers application menu(in xfce in submenu other) or you can start it on a console via /usr/bin/openmoko-panel-plugin -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think you simply need more space for the trayicon. Move it in a bar with more space and you will get all the buttons. Michele Renda C R McClenaghan wrote: Sebastian, Having started it from the application menu (at first was missing python-gtk2) I see only GSM and WiFI icons - no batery, GPS or BT? What else do I need to do to get all? Chris On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Sebastian Ohl wrote: On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 19:06 +0200, arne anka wrote: uhm, how does one use it? It should appear somewhere in your windowmanagers application menu(in xfce in submenu other) or you can start it on a console via /usr/bin/openmoko-panel-plugin -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFItN0xSIAU/I6SkT0RAro4AJ9Krrj/gnN6lhmWSU+kCk/a4be+iQCfe5/Y 7OMygLNr1Un+8nuGC7QJma4= =Rgvq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Hi, Am Montag, den 25.08.2008, 17:08 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Ohl: Hi, On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 17:53 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: Screenshots! http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel.png And is this a package suitable for inclusion in the Debian archive? Do i hope so *G* you want to maintain it yourself, or rather have someone else do it? Is there a VCS repository somewhere, or at least the debian source package? the source includes the needed debian files. i think i should be able to maintain it myself. but so far i've only build packages for our company and not for the public debian repo. so i would be fine if someone who have experiance with that will take a look. I had a look and have some comments: * You have one tarball including the debian/ directory. Although I personally slightly disagree it is common practice to not include it in the released tarball, but only in the debian source package, as part of the diff.gz, bundled by a .dsc. What I usually do if I’m also the upstream author is that I build the tarball with tar cfz ../...0.1.tar.gz --exclude debian/, and then run debuild to get the source and binary package. * Have a look at the python distutils. This makes it easy to have a tarball that’s useful for all those non-debian-users. Have a look at how http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/PyPenNotes did it. You can also install the .desktop file and the pixmaps this way. * If you have created a setup.py, your debian/ directory will become very minimal, especially when using debhelper 7. Have a look at http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pypennotes/pypennotes_0.3b-1.dsc * You have a manual postinst and postrm script, although debhelper creates these snippets for you. Just remove your script. * Don’t ship LICENCE (via debian/docs). Rather refer to the GPL in a way similar to who I did it when packaging pypennotes. I hope you are not scared by this list :-) Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Hi, xaos x and I finished our efforts to create a panel plugin to show you the power states of the FR hardware components without using zhone. it should be usable in any gtk based panel (i.e. xfce or gnome) and its based on the frameworkd dbus infrastructure. with this plugin you can not just show but also disable or enable the hardware components by clicking on the icons. the battery state is also displayed. you can get a debianized version from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1_all.deb or the source from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1.tar.gz -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I will try it now :) Sebastian Ohl wrote: Hi, xaos x and I finished our efforts to create a panel plugin to show you the power states of the FR hardware components without using zhone. it should be usable in any gtk based panel (i.e. xfce or gnome) and its based on the frameworkd dbus infrastructure. with this plugin you can not just show but also disable or enable the hardware components by clicking on the icons. the battery state is also displayed. you can get a debianized version from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1_all.deb or the source from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1.tar.gz -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIsX25SIAU/I6SkT0RAtYSAJsG7B2p8q4X/o1k0cnKhbS0WOfFoACgojEc FapYErauZSAWlsUPQ/t6QWY= =Y73A -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 24.08.2008, 17:21 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Ohl: xaos x and I finished our efforts to create a panel plugin to show you the power states of the FR hardware components without using zhone. it should be usable in any gtk based panel (i.e. xfce or gnome) and its based on the frameworkd dbus infrastructure. with this plugin you can not just show but also disable or enable the hardware components by clicking on the icons. the battery state is also displayed. you can get a debianized version from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1_all.deb or the source from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1.tar.gz Screenshots! And is this a package suitable for inclusion in the Debian archive? Do you want to maintain it yourself, or rather have someone else do it? Is there a VCS repository somewhere, or at least the debian source package? Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
It looks really nice. :) But i would suggest to change the modifier action from one mouse click to double click. On a touchscreen it is hard to flew over the icons to show the quicktip and not activate/deactivate the function. This would also prevent unintentional acivation or deactivation. Also it would be really nice if the battery popup (after klicking it) shows the actual state (charging/discharging and actual current) which is readable from sysfs. At the moment it only shows the actual battery state in percent when i'm right. Keep up the good work. That panel was one of the things i was most missing in debian till now. :) Ciao, Rainer Sebastian Ohl wrote: Hi, xaos x and I finished our efforts to create a panel plugin to show you the power states of the FR hardware components without using zhone. it should be usable in any gtk based panel (i.e. xfce or gnome) and its based on the frameworkd dbus infrastructure. with this plugin you can not just show but also disable or enable the hardware components by clicking on the icons. the battery state is also displayed. you can get a debianized version from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1_all.deb or the source from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1.tar.gz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
xaos x and I finished our efforts to create a panel plugin to show you the power states of the FR hardware components without using zhone. it uhm, how does one use it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Here it works withput problems. But it isn't displayed at the bottom where the other panel aplications show up. It is located in the upper right at the panel which shows all open applications. Didn't you get any error messages? Does the process run at all in the background? arne anka wrote: Just start openmoko-panel-plugin in the console and the status panel appears in xfce. :) that's exactly my problem -- i do but the panel doesnt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 19:06 +0200, arne anka wrote: uhm, how does one use it? It should appear somewhere in your windowmanagers application menu(in xfce in submenu other) or you can start it on a console via /usr/bin/openmoko-panel-plugin -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
You must to add a tray icon area to panel! i had -- the problem was simply that i had a task list applet (or whatever the proper name is) and the panel does not obviously not resize entries to show everything. after removal of the applet the panel is shown. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 20.08.2008 um 23:30 schrieb Sebastian Ohl: Hi, On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 14:39 -0400, xaos x wrote: I'm currently finishing up a battery power python app for any of the system trays (GNOME, XFCE, etc) so you can see battery power when zhone is either not open, or minimized. I plan on adding phone network status and other information to it as well. I'll post the link here when I'm finished. i'm currently doning the same but it's only a xfce panel plugin so you can't use it for gnome etc. my program can currently show the status of the gps,gsm,bt devices. so i did it the other way around. may be we should combine our afforts so we get a faster solution. i think my next step would be to build an app to enable or disable the gpsco hardware. Yours Sebastian Ohl it would be nice to hear about your progress with this xfce-plugin. could you send me your actual version? regards, morlac - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIrZAnr81gVylJyzERApJQAKDmTAKF5KXwd9FQtfKnixQMaZP/kwCeLC29 BNWZftZx+t4u2UtcM62XXXQ= =p7mO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Playing with [EMAIL PROTECTED] I flight with some problem, and now, because I found a solution, I'd like to share with community. After I installed Debian, it was launching by default zhone. For now I need more a palm, than a phone so I list here all the changes I made to make it usable for me. I hope it can be useful for somehone I installed Debian according the ufficial procedure. Then with ctrl+alt+x I entered in a terminal. With these commands (or in a simplier way, with a ssh) I installed these programs (check internet connectivity) apt-get install aptitude aptitude install xfce abiword gnumeric pidgin tangogps gpsd sonata mpd Then I used the Sebastian Ohl's patch have a left click: (thank you again Sebastian) http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb after I installed it with: dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb I have also to recalibrate the screen: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/pointercal mv pointercal /etc/pointercal Then I liked to start my FR direct in XFCE, without passing by zhone: Editing /usr/bin/zhone-session and trasform is something like this: #!/bin/sh exec startxfce4 matchbox-keyboard-toggle exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes (the last yes is to have a close button, I like it more :) ) Ps. I think is better to fix the dimension of the font and of the icons (I have 48) I took part of the information from the official Debian guide for FR and from here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian (Have a look there to know how to fix sound and gps, I didn't tried). I hope it help someone. Best regards Michele Renda -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIq8e1SIAU/I6SkT0RAqo1AJwI04jgGSdSawmU77c1iWNr+rW11ACfZiBY vhwPVLKU9fAieaexBEpcLYk= =TjfK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You are very right :) Before I tried with the shipped SD card (512Mb): I arrived to install Debian + Pidgin and 3 Mb remaining !!! So... if someone want to try install a lot of application, I think he need a bigger micro SD. I used a 2Gb one (Kingston 12.90 Eur) but I think it can run well also with a simple 1 GB Micro SD. Thank you for the precisation!!! David Samblas wrote: Only as an advice to the rest to no be dissapointed like me, Michele's intructions are not 512 Sd card compatible ... I have to buy a bigger one as soon as posible :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIq+VhSIAU/I6SkT0RAjqUAJ9goBTIHywPBmIH0PkmGOB81iQ9qACgj+Hl 0gEnal/2C1RWJfkaoE+5x+8= =BPPS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Actually, you don't need to launch xfce4-desktop. just launch xfce4-panel, then zhone, or vice versa. The onscreen keyboard works *much* better that way. -Tom - Original Message - From: Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:28:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Playing with [EMAIL PROTECTED] I flight with some problem, and now, because I found a solution, I'd like to share with community. After I installed Debian, it was launching by default zhone. For now I need more a palm, than a phone so I list here all the changes I made to make it usable for me. I hope it can be useful for somehone I installed Debian according the ufficial procedure. Then with ctrl+alt+x I entered in a terminal. With these commands (or in a simplier way, with a ssh) I installed these programs (check internet connectivity) apt-get install aptitude aptitude install xfce abiword gnumeric pidgin tangogps gpsd sonata mpd Then I used the Sebastian Ohl's patch have a left click: (thank you again Sebastian) http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb after I installed it with: dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb I have also to recalibrate the screen: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/pointercal mv pointercal /etc/pointercal Then I liked to start my FR direct in XFCE, without passing by zhone: Editing /usr/bin/zhone-session and trasform is something like this: #!/bin/sh exec startxfce4 matchbox-keyboard-toggle exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes (the last yes is to have a close button, I like it more :) ) Ps. I think is better to fix the dimension of the font and of the icons (I have 48) I took part of the information from the official Debian guide for FR and from here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian (Have a look there to know how to fix sound and gps, I didn't tried). I hope it help someone. Best regards Michele Renda -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIq8e1SIAU/I6SkT0RAqo1AJwI04jgGSdSawmU77c1iWNr+rW11ACfZiBY vhwPVLKU9fAieaexBEpcLYk= =TjfK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 With the problem with the onscreen keyboard, I solved keeping the keyboard closed when booting, and opening it only after the boot. It is the only little bug I saw until now! Ps: using Network Nanager 0.6 I am not able to saw neither wifi or usb0 connection. Someone had success on it? (for usb0 i know thet Network Manager 0.7 support it :) xaos x wrote: Actually, you don't need to launch xfce4-desktop. just launch xfce4-panel, then zhone, or vice versa. The onscreen keyboard works *much* better that way. -Tom - Original Message - From: Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:28:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop Playing with [EMAIL PROTECTED] I flight with some problem, and now, because I found a solution, I'd like to share with community. After I installed Debian, it was launching by default zhone. For now I need more a palm, than a phone so I list here all the changes I made to make it usable for me. I hope it can be useful for somehone I installed Debian according the ufficial procedure. Then with ctrl+alt+x I entered in a terminal. With these commands (or in a simplier way, with a ssh) I installed these programs (check internet connectivity) apt-get install aptitude aptitude install xfce abiword gnumeric pidgin tangogps gpsd sonata mpd Then I used the Sebastian Ohl's patch have a left click: (thank you again Sebastian) http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb after I installed it with: dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb I have also to recalibrate the screen: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/pointercal mv pointercal /etc/pointercal Then I liked to start my FR direct in XFCE, without passing by zhone: Editing /usr/bin/zhone-session and trasform is something like this: #!/bin/sh exec startxfce4 matchbox-keyboard-toggle exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes (the last yes is to have a close button, I like it more :) ) Ps. I think is better to fix the dimension of the font and of the icons (I have 48) I took part of the information from the official Debian guide for FR and from here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian (Have a look there to know how to fix sound and gps, I didn't tried). I hope it help someone. Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIrCXfSIAU/I6SkT0RAsWXAJ9rxkrsXKmfNNJFowRHIhpQa1fLgACfWLfu Vieus40zlLPvPD5XEq1zUbs= =wV68 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
I used the network applet and just configured it to see eth0 and ppp0. I'm not that interested in seeing IP over USB traffic but you could add that by just adding another applet on the taskbar for it. I'm currently finishing up a battery power python app for any of the system trays (GNOME, XFCE, etc) so you can see battery power when zhone is either not open, or minimized. I plan on adding phone network status and other information to it as well. I'll post the link here when I'm finished. -Tom - Original Message - From: Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:10:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 With the problem with the onscreen keyboard, I solved keeping the keyboard closed when booting, and opening it only after the boot. It is the only little bug I saw until now! Ps: using Network Nanager 0.6 I am not able to saw neither wifi or usb0 connection. Someone had success on it? (for usb0 i know thet Network Manager 0.7 support it :) xaos x wrote: Actually, you don't need to launch xfce4-desktop. just launch xfce4-panel, then zhone, or vice versa. The onscreen keyboard works *much* better that way. -Tom - Original Message - From: Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:28:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop Playing with [EMAIL PROTECTED] I flight with some problem, and now, because I found a solution, I'd like to share with community. After I installed Debian, it was launching by default zhone. For now I need more a palm, than a phone so I list here all the changes I made to make it usable for me. I hope it can be useful for somehone I installed Debian according the ufficial procedure. Then with ctrl+alt+x I entered in a terminal. With these commands (or in a simplier way, with a ssh) I installed these programs (check internet connectivity) apt-get install aptitude aptitude install xfce abiword gnumeric pidgin tangogps gpsd sonata mpd Then I used the Sebastian Ohl's patch have a left click: (thank you again Sebastian) http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb after I installed it with: dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb I have also to recalibrate the screen: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/pointercal mv pointercal /etc/pointercal Then I liked to start my FR direct in XFCE, without passing by zhone: Editing /usr/bin/zhone-session and trasform is something like this: #!/bin/sh exec startxfce4 matchbox-keyboard-toggle exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes (the last yes is to have a close button, I like it more :) ) Ps. I think is better to fix the dimension of the font and of the icons (I have 48) I took part of the information from the official Debian guide for FR and from here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian (Have a look there to know how to fix sound and gps, I didn't tried). I hope it help someone. Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIrCXfSIAU/I6SkT0RAsWXAJ9rxkrsXKmfNNJFowRHIhpQa1fLgACfWLfu Vieus40zlLPvPD5XEq1zUbs= =wV68 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Network manager doesn't show the network traffic, but permit to open/close the connection. The version 0.7 (not yet available for Freerunner but available on Ubuntu) permit to manage wifi network, vpn connection (OpenVpn and Cisco VPN) ADSL modem (very useful in Italy) USB connection and GPRS/UMTS connection. About the program you are writing, keep present my name for beta testing. Regards Michele Renda xaos x wrote: I used the network applet and just configured it to see eth0 and ppp0. I'm not that interested in seeing IP over USB traffic but you could add that by just adding another applet on the taskbar for it. I'm currently finishing up a battery power python app for any of the system trays (GNOME, XFCE, etc) so you can see battery power when zhone is either not open, or minimized. I plan on adding phone network status and other information to it as well. I'll post the link here when I'm finished. -Tom - Original Message - From: Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:10:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop With the problem with the onscreen keyboard, I solved keeping the keyboard closed when booting, and opening it only after the boot. It is the only little bug I saw until now! Ps: using Network Nanager 0.6 I am not able to saw neither wifi or usb0 connection. Someone had success on it? (for usb0 i know thet Network Manager 0.7 support it :) xaos x wrote: Actually, you don't need to launch xfce4-desktop. just launch xfce4-panel, then zhone, or vice versa. The onscreen keyboard works *much* better that way. -Tom - Original Message - From: Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:28:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop Playing with [EMAIL PROTECTED] I flight with some problem, and now, because I found a solution, I'd like to share with community. After I installed Debian, it was launching by default zhone. For now I need more a palm, than a phone so I list here all the changes I made to make it usable for me. I hope it can be useful for somehone I installed Debian according the ufficial procedure. Then with ctrl+alt+x I entered in a terminal. With these commands (or in a simplier way, with a ssh) I installed these programs (check internet connectivity) apt-get install aptitude aptitude install xfce abiword gnumeric pidgin tangogps gpsd sonata mpd Then I used the Sebastian Ohl's patch have a left click: (thank you again Sebastian) http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb after I installed it with: dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.4-5+fso2_armel.deb I have also to recalibrate the screen: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/pointercal mv pointercal /etc/pointercal Then I liked to start my FR direct in XFCE, without passing by zhone: Editing /usr/bin/zhone-session and trasform is something like this: #!/bin/sh exec startxfce4 matchbox-keyboard-toggle exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes (the last yes is to have a close button, I like it more :) ) Ps. I think is better to fix the dimension of the font and of the icons (I have 48) I took part of the information from the official Debian guide for FR and from here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian (Have a look there to know how to fix sound and gps, I didn't tried). I hope it help someone. Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIrG+1SIAU/I6SkT0RAoKTAJ0YmQQpsB3fabCyUA2cra8+Wu4JIQCfaCR8 wVqGHP11Naf/MlseieTsCHM= =c6pG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Hi, On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 21:25 +0200, Michele Renda wrote: Network manager doesn't show the network traffic, but permit to open/close the connection. i'm managing my wifi connections with wifi-radar. it works very well but you have to do some changes to the source because some of the options set by wifimanager will fail with the openmoko wifi card. -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Hi, On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 14:39 -0400, xaos x wrote: I'm currently finishing up a battery power python app for any of the system trays (GNOME, XFCE, etc) so you can see battery power when zhone is either not open, or minimized. I plan on adding phone network status and other information to it as well. I'll post the link here when I'm finished. i'm currently doning the same but it's only a xfce panel plugin so you can't use it for gnome etc. my program can currently show the status of the gps,gsm,bt devices. so i did it the other way around. may be we should combine our afforts so we get a faster solution. i think my next step would be to build an app to enable or disable the gpsco hardware. Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community