Re: Hardware Block Diagram

2008-06-05 Thread BrendaWang
Here is the detail spec of GTA02
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware

Dale Schumacher 提到:
>
> I've done several searches on the wiki and I can't seem to find any 
> block diagram of the Freerunner hardware. Is there any such thing? It 
> would sure help to clarify how all this stuff is connected.
>
>
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> From: Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:29:36 +0100
> Subject: Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo 
>
> ...
>
> We would rightly deserve to get our asses laughed at if we did that.
> You're likely thinking about the actual SD Card interface is now
> via the
> Glamo, which has an SD interface poking out of it. WIFI is hooked to
> the CPU SDIO bus and we don't otherwise use these buses.
>
> | If it's connected to the address/data bus, why is it so slow and
> why can't
> | DMA be used to copy data to it?
>
> DMA can be used, I seem to recall someone saying they did
> something with
> it in Xglamo, but PIO isn't where the problems are coming from.
>
> The Glamo offers normal async memory bus interface which we use,
> but it
> has a bunch of timing constraints. (There is a synchronous burst bus
> mode that we don't use because the CPU doesn't support it and adding a
> CPLD in there to translate will eat power and doesn't make sense.)
>
>
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Re: Hardware Block Diagram

2008-06-05 Thread Jakob
may be you're looking for something like this:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:SimpleComponentDiagram.jpg
well it's quite simplified, but i just found that on the wiki..

On 6/5/08, Dale Schumacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've done several searches on the wiki and I can't seem to find any block
> diagram of the Freerunner hardware.  Is there any such thing?  It would sure
> help to clarify how all this stuff is connected.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:29:36 +0100
>> Subject: Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo
>
> ...
>
>> We would rightly deserve to get our asses laughed at if we did that.
>> You're likely thinking about the actual SD Card interface is now via the
>> Glamo, which has an SD interface poking out of it.  WIFI is hooked to
>> the CPU SDIO bus and we don't otherwise use these buses.
>>
>> | If it's connected to the address/data bus, why is it so slow and why
>> can't
>> | DMA be used to copy data to it?
>>
>> DMA can be used, I seem to recall someone saying they did something with
>> it in Xglamo, but PIO isn't where the problems are coming from.
>>
>> The Glamo offers normal async memory bus interface which we use, but it
>> has a bunch of timing constraints.  (There is a synchronous burst bus
>> mode that we don't use because the CPU doesn't support it and adding a
>> CPLD in there to translate will eat power and doesn't make sense.)
>>
>

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Hardware Block Diagram

2008-06-05 Thread Dale Schumacher
I've done several searches on the wiki and I can't seem to find any block
diagram of the Freerunner hardware.  Is there any such thing?  It would sure
help to clarify how all this stuff is connected.


-- Forwarded message --
> From: Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:29:36 +0100
> Subject: Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

...

> We would rightly deserve to get our asses laughed at if we did that.
> You're likely thinking about the actual SD Card interface is now via the
> Glamo, which has an SD interface poking out of it.  WIFI is hooked to
> the CPU SDIO bus and we don't otherwise use these buses.
>
> | If it's connected to the address/data bus, why is it so slow and why
> can't
> | DMA be used to copy data to it?
>
> DMA can be used, I seem to recall someone saying they did something with
> it in Xglamo, but PIO isn't where the problems are coming from.
>
> The Glamo offers normal async memory bus interface which we use, but it
> has a bunch of timing constraints.  (There is a synchronous burst bus
> mode that we don't use because the CPU doesn't support it and adding a
> CPLD in there to translate will eat power and doesn't make sense.)
>
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