> for the light of our leds we could make grids and holes... or we could also
> do an all transparent case (I'd love to see trough to view the electronic
> inside)
>
sounds cool
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2010-10...@00:46 Alfa21
> for the light of our leds we could make grids and holes... or we could also
> do an all transparent case (I'd love to see trough to view the electronic
> inside)
>
ah and this is also to underline that our open project has nothing to hide! ;)
(and one day maybe someo
2010-10...@21:09 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
> The mould for the Power button is less expensive: approx. 1500 EUR.
>
> I.e. 10 buttons @ 150 EUR each :)
mmh...
why not include the button(s) in the same mould?
it could be a shape like a C= attached to the main shape by a little plastic
for the ligh
> > - besides Vietnam, Czech is another country that can
> provide moulds at competitive prices
> >
> > Cases like that of the Freerunner, with more than one
> plastic, need more than one mould per piece. To say more of
> the price, it is necessary to have the design available.
> The
>
> Maybe yo
On Monday 25 October 2010, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> >> Well, we have anlysed approx. 5 or 6 different methods and none was
> >> inexpensive for low volumes. The only one that came down below 50 EUR
> >> per case is injection moulding.
> >>
> >> But I would be happy if you can guide the GT
Am 25.10.2010 um 13:09 schrieb W. B. Kranendonk:
>
> --- On Sat, 10/23/10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>> Well, an alternative approach could be to open a funds for
>> a new injection mould. I.e.
>> a "Openmoko Case Production Foundation" (or German e.V.).
>> Everyone who gives
>> some mone
>>
>> Well, we have anlysed approx. 5 or 6 different methods and none was
>> inexpensive for low volumes. The only one that came down below 50 EUR per
>> case is injection moulding.
>>
>> But I would be happy if you can guide the GTA04 to a different approach.
>
> It would be good if you could s
On Saturday 23 October 2010, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Am 23.10.2010 um 15:40 schrieb Al Johnson:
> > On Friday 22 October 2010, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> >> Am 22.10.2010 um 02:17 schrieb Al Johnson:
> >>> On Friday 22 October 2010, EdorFaus wrote:
> On 10/21/2010 07:59 PM, Al
--- On Sat, 10/23/10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Well, an alternative approach could be to open a funds for
> a new injection mould. I.e.
> a "Openmoko Case Production Foundation" (or German e.V.).
> Everyone who gives
> some money for the funds can buy cases at a reduced rate.
> And every
On Saturday 23 October 2010, David Arnold wrote:
> On 23/10/2010, at 9:40 AM, Al Johnson wrote:
> > high quality design doesn't have to be expensive to manufacture. I
> > suspect something attractive could be made in low volume at a reasonable
> > price using laser cut plastics. I'll try to ask the
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:42 AM, David Arnold wrote:
> What about a machined aluminium case?
>
> I would guess that rental of a CNC machine would not cost too much, and
> perhaps we could make an arrangement with a technical college or even
> commercial firm to use their equipment in otherwise
On 23/10/2010, at 9:40 AM, Al Johnson wrote:
> high quality design doesn't have to be expensive to manufacture. I suspect
> something attractive could be made in low volume at a reasonable price using
> laser cut plastics. I'll try to ask the local cutters about their precision
> and cut thickn
Am 23.10.2010 um 15:40 schrieb Al Johnson:
> On Friday 22 October 2010, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>> Am 22.10.2010 um 02:17 schrieb Al Johnson:
>>> On Friday 22 October 2010, EdorFaus wrote:
On 10/21/2010 07:59 PM, Alfa21 wrote:
> you should try 3d print like this:
On Friday 22 October 2010, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Am 22.10.2010 um 02:17 schrieb Al Johnson:
> > On Friday 22 October 2010, EdorFaus wrote:
> >> On 10/21/2010 07:59 PM, Alfa21 wrote:
> >>> you should try 3d print like this:
> >>
> >>
> >>> made in ABS which is a good plastic and up to
Am 22.10.2010 um 19:17 schrieb Gennady Kupava:
> В Птн, 22/10/2010 в 05:36 -0700, RANJAN пишет:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Recommendations for better hardware on Openmoko.
>>
>> 1)A 600 Mhz processor is minimally required to run the OS at usable
>> speeds.An 800 Mhz processor would be good across all OSes
Well
First my cold has to cure.
Then I will organize the still missing parts for the RepRap
Then we will assemble it all
Then we will print a first chassis
Lets hope the granule extruder is in fact that precise, as the docs are telling.
If yes, we can put the new board into it, and have the first p
В Птн, 22/10/2010 в 05:36 -0700, RANJAN пишет:
> Hello,
>
> Recommendations for better hardware on Openmoko.
>
> 1)A 600 Mhz processor is minimally required to run the OS at usable
> speeds.An 800 Mhz processor would be good across all OSes.A 1Ghz
> processor would be too costly
Hi, Ranjan.
I j
Hello,
Recommendations for better hardware on Openmoko.
1)A 600 Mhz processor is minimally required to run the OS at usable
speeds.An 800 Mhz processor would be good across all OSes.A 1Ghz processor
would be too costly
2)Please use ADXL335 accelerometer whose sensor output is better, less
noisy,
2010-10...@08:24 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
> So if we reduce precision of the case production process, the buttons become
> larger and finally, the phone is more a brick than a handheld phone :)
>
> Personally, I am in favour of high-end high-quality design (like the iPhone)
> even if it costs mon
Am 22.10.2010 um 02:17 schrieb Al Johnson:
> On Friday 22 October 2010, EdorFaus wrote:
>> On 10/21/2010 07:59 PM, Alfa21 wrote:
>>> you should try 3d print like this:
>>
>>
>>> made in ABS which is a good plastic and up to 0.01 inches resolution
>>
>> Unfortunately, that's not quite good enou
Am 21.10.2010 um 19:59 schrieb Alfa21:
> 2010-10...@19:06 David Lanzendörfer
>
>>> True, but they're available from many more suppliers than moko plastics!
>>> Shame
>>> there isn't a transreflective version though...
>> I today recieved the plastic parts for a RepRap.
>> So we can soon start
On Friday 22 October 2010, EdorFaus wrote:
> On 10/21/2010 07:59 PM, Alfa21 wrote:
> > you should try 3d print like this:
>
>
> > made in ABS which is a good plastic and up to 0.01 inches resolution
>
> Unfortunately, that's not quite good enough (different units).
> 0.01 inches = 0.254 mm, whic
On 10/21/2010 07:59 PM, Alfa21 wrote:
> you should try 3d print like this:
> made in ABS which is a good plastic and up to 0.01 inches resolution
Unfortunately, that's not quite good enough (different units).
0.01 inches = 0.254 mm, which is 2.54 times the required size:
On 10/21/2010 07:32 PM,
2010-10...@19:06 David Lanzendörfer
> >True, but they're available from many more suppliers than moko plastics!
> >Shame
> >there isn't a transreflective version though...
> I today recieved the plastic parts for a RepRap.
> So we can soon start to design and produce the case for new OpenMokos.
Am 21.10.2010 um 18:21 schrieb W. B. Kranendonk:
> The board looks great! Quite "professional" ;-)
>
>> My (probably
>> naive) impression
>>> is that you're only missing the case plastics to
>> provide a complete GTA4
>>> phone.
> The LCD comes in handy at times, was my first thought...
>
>> Mo
Am 21.10.2010 um 18:05 schrieb Al Johnson:
> On Thursday 21 October 2010, Andreas Fischer wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> One question: Do you only consider upgrades of existing Freerunners or
>> would a complete phone also be an option? My (probably naive) impression
>> is that you're only missing the case
Am 21.10.2010 um 17:18 schrieb Andreas Fischer:
> Hi,
>
> One question: Do you only consider upgrades of existing Freerunners or
> would a complete phone also be an option? My (probably naive) impression
We not only plan these upgrade boards but also complete phones as a long term
goal. Maybe,
>True, but they're available from many more suppliers than moko plastics! Shame
>there isn't a transreflective version though...
I today recieved the plastic parts for a RepRap.
So we can soon start to design and produce the case for new OpenMokos.
Only barrier: We need an extruder and some kilogr
On Thursday 21 October 2010, W. B. Kranendonk wrote:
> The LCD comes in handy at times, was my first thought...
True, but they're available from many more suppliers than moko plastics! Shame
there isn't a transreflective version though...
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The board looks great! Quite "professional" ;-)
> My (probably
> naive) impression
> > is that you're only missing the case plastics to
> provide a complete GTA4
> > phone.
The LCD comes in handy at times, was my first thought...
> Most of the parts are here:
> http://www.handheld-
> linux.com/wi
On Thursday 21 October 2010, Andreas Fischer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One question: Do you only consider upgrades of existing Freerunners or
> would a complete phone also be an option? My (probably naive) impression
> is that you're only missing the case plastics to provide a complete GTA4
> phone.
Most
Hi,
One question: Do you only consider upgrades of existing Freerunners or
would a complete phone also be an option? My (probably naive) impression
is that you're only missing the case plastics to provide a complete GTA4
phone.
Regards,
Andreas
On 21.10.2010 07:36, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:12:58 +0200, Alfa21 wrote:
> 2010-10...@07:36 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
>
>> Here is the photo of a bare board as it came from the PCB factory:
>
> eh! your baby is growing up!
> nice nice nice! :)
I agree :) Can't wait!
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> Here is the photo of a bare board as it came from the PCB factory:
eh! your baby is growing up!
nice nice nice! :)
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Am 20.10.2010 um 09:56 schrieb Patryk Benderz:
> [cut]
>> I will keep you updated.
>>
>> Nikolaus
> Thanks for sharing this, do you have some photos of this board? Looking
Here is the photo of a bare board as it came from the PCB factory:
http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/images/DSC0
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> I will keep you updated.
>
> Nikolaus
Thanks for sharing this, do you have some photos of this board? Looking
forward to hear more! :)
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Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller a écrit , Le 19/10/2010 17:13:
> Today, we received the first PCBs for the GTA04. It has passed a
> mechanical test (just some connectors and buttons mounted) and this
> bare board fits exactly into the GTA02 case.
Great news!
> Next, some chips are soldered and we do mea
Em 19-10-2010 16:13, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller escreveu:
> Today, we received the first PCBs for the GTA04. It has passed a
> mechanical test (just some connectors and buttons mounted) and this
> bare board fits exactly into the GTA02 case.
>
> Next, some chips are soldered and we do measurements.
Good luck and thanks for keeping us up to date!
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>
> Am 16.09.2010 um 10:36 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
>
> >
> > Am 16.09.2010 um 10:03 schrieb Sylvain Paré:
> >
> >> and which are the next steps between this and a real futur
Am 16.09.2010 um 10:36 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
>
> Am 16.09.2010 um 10:03 schrieb Sylvain Paré:
>
>> and which are the next steps between this and a real future GTA04 end-user
>> phone?
>
> For the hardware, we have to test the PCB and see if it smokes or the
> Tux smiles on the scr
Am 16.09.2010 um 17:00 schrieb Gennady Kupava:
>> The OMAP CPU is much faster and many interface controllers are also improved.
>
> 'much faster' is enemy of 'fast', so if it is possible to make something
> even better, why not.
Here I have found two videos that demo the boot and graphics speed
Am 16.09.2010 19:40, schrieb Gennady Kupava:
>
>> Regarding memory we currently plan to use this memory chip:
>>
>> http://www.micron.com/products/ProductDetails.html?product=products/mcp/multichip_packages/MT29C4G48MAZAPAKQ-5+IT
>>
>
> 2Gb @ 166MHz - nice!
>
If i'm correct than it is 2Gbit and
> Regarding memory we currently plan to use this memory chip:
>
> http://www.micron.com/products/ProductDetails.html?product=products/mcp/multichip_packages/MT29C4G48MAZAPAKQ-5+IT
>
2Gb @ 166MHz - nice!
Gennady
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Hi,
>> And, we know that fast boot is possible. At least someone has done it for
>> the Beagle Board:
>> http://swiftbeagle.googlecode.com/files/beagleboard_project_hui_keji.pdf
>> They claim that they have achieved 3 seconds from power up to login: on
>> the serial console. Well, running X11 als
В Чтв, 16/09/2010 в 12:54 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller пишет:
> Am 16.09.2010 um 10:05 schrieb Gennady Kupava:
>
> > Hi, Nicolaus.
> >
> > I have few ideas about about performance. Major bottleneck of freerunner
> > is amount of memory, so please can you push as much memory to new device
> > a
Am 16.09.2010 um 10:05 schrieb Gennady Kupava:
> Hi, Nicolaus.
>
> I have few ideas about about performance. Major bottleneck of freerunner
> is amount of memory, so please can you push as much memory to new device
> as possible. This will make device lightning fast. Second idea is
The OMAP uses
Am 16.09.2010 um 10:05 schrieb Gennady Kupava:
> Hi, Nicolaus.
>
> I have few ideas about about performance. Major bottleneck of freerunner
> is amount of memory, so please can you push as much memory to new device
> as possible. This will make device lightning fast. Second idea is
The OMAP uses
Hi, Nicolaus.
I have few ideas about about performance. Major bottleneck of freerunner
is amount of memory, so please can you push as much memory to new device
as possible. This will make device lightning fast. Second idea is
related to memory too, but i am much less sure about it. Can we have
som
Am 16.09.2010 um 10:03 schrieb Sylvain Paré:
> Hi,
> Thanks for these news!
> Some questions:
> Does Openmoko Inc. is involved in this right now ?
Not directly. We hope they can become more involved
in the future, e.g. as a distributor for Asia (the project is
run in Europe) or when we really re
Am 16.09.2010 um 10:03 schrieb Sylvain Paré:
> Hi,
> Thanks for these news!
> Some questions:
> Does Openmoko Inc. is involved in this right now ?
Not directly. We hope they can become more involved
in the future, e.g. as a distributor for Asia (the project is
run in Europe) or when we really re
Hi,
Thanks for these news!
Some questions:
Does Openmoko Inc. is involved in this right now ?
and which are the next steps between this and a real future GTA04 end-user
phone?
Again thanks for your work!
BR
Sylvain (aka GarthPS)
2010/9/16 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 12.08.2010 um 14:12 schri
Am 12.08.2010 um 14:12 schrieb RANJAN:
> Hi,
>
> When is the next and more powerful openmoko (capable of seamless 3D video and
> faster processor) is going to be released???
>
> Regards
> Sriranjan
I have good news to announce. We have again made progress
towards our goals.
The first step is
Steven Kurylo wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Alex Fitzpatrick
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Yogiz wrote:
>>
known features of GTA04:
- DBI (Direct Brain Interface)
- trans warp gate projector
- battery is replaced with a blackhole for infinite power
Its needed for defence against die hard apple fans ...
BillK
On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 15:21 -0400, Alex Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Yogiz wrote:
> >> known features of GTA04:
> >> - DBI (Direct Brain Interface)
> >> - trans warp gate projector
> >> - battery is replaced with a blackhole for infinite power
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Alex Fitzpatrick
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> Yogiz wrote:
>>> known features of GTA04:
>>> - DBI (Direct Brain Interface)
>>> - trans warp gate projector
>>> - battery is replaced with a blackhole for infinite power
>>> - timemachine
>>> - build in stylus
>>>
>> A
Yogiz wrote:
>> known features of GTA04:
>> - DBI (Direct Brain Interface)
>> - trans warp gate projector
>> - battery is replaced with a blackhole for infinite power
>> - timemachine
>> - build in stylus
>>
> Ah, a stylus holder. Most excellent.
>
Surely with the DBI the stylus is redunda
> known features of GTA04:
> - DBI (Direct Brain Interface)
> - trans warp gate projector
> - battery is replaced with a blackhole for infinite power
> - timemachine
> - build in stylus
>
Ah, a stylus holder. Most excellent.
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> Am Freitag, 29. August 2008 14.45:11 schrieb H.Hveem:
> > Does anyone know What kind of hardware will GTA04 have ?
> >
> >
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Am Freitag, 29. August 2008 14.45:11 schrieb H.Hveem:
> Does anyone know What kind of hardware will GTA04 have ?
>
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Anyone know what they're planning to put in GTA279?
If it doesn't brain into cyberspace then what the hell?? Is this supposed to
be your iPhone v73 killer?
On Friday 29 August 2008 08:53:15 Fox Mulder wrote:
> There is no GTA03 so why ask about GTA04?
>
> These kind mails just fills the list u
There is no GTA03 so why ask about GTA04?
These kind mails just fills the list up with nonsense mails which i have
to filter out afterwards. This is really annoying.
Sorry if i say it so directly, but this is what i think about it. :/
H.Hveem wrote:
> Does anyone know What kind of hardware will G
On Sunday 04 May 2008 11:21:18 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
> If it will not be added, will there be enough free and available
> GPIO pins so that we may add it our self?
>
I think there should be an open way to add hardware extensions anyhow. Maybe
GPIO, maybe USB, maybe full size SD or ev
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