Re: Which image

2008-07-03 Thread Andy Selby
I get the impression that only qtopia has daily builds, is that correct? No, ASU has it too If wee want to use ASU the most recent is the one from 2.) i.e. May 20? Try here http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080703/ ___

Re: Which image

2008-07-03 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Andy Selby wrote: I get the impression that only qtopia has daily builds, is that correct? No, ASU has it too If wee want to use ASU the most recent is the one from 2.) i.e. May 20? Try here http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080703/ Is this

Re: Which image

2008-07-03 Thread Andy Selby
Try here http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080703/ Is this not qtopia? or is ASU hidden behind this: Sorry, I just realised I posted the exact same url as you did. ASU does include qtopia apps, but it also has the shelf widgets (the popdown menu at the top of the screen)

Re: Which image

2008-07-03 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Andy Selby wrote: If we want to install additional packages is would FSO also be an option? Not as far as I know, they're trying to get the basics working, last i checked it could suspend/resume and make/receive calls, nothing more opkg works - I installed gpe-scap

Re: Which image

2008-07-02 Thread Jay Vaughan
The base software is just that. Base software. It will function as an everyday phone with dialer, SMS, and contacts. So, you can take that base and build on it, by yourself or with others. Or, come August timeframe you can get the Beta release of ASU. FSO is a framework or middleware if

Re: Which image

2008-07-02 Thread arne anka
The point is - what can we *developers* target for our end users? fso, as i understand it. it offers a framework separating gui from internals and is supposed to be gui toolkit agnostic, thus allowing to coexist qt, gtk, e?? and whatever toolkits for guis will become available. Without

Re: Which image

2008-07-02 Thread Knight Walker
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 12:16 +0200, Jay Vaughan wrote: The point is - what can we *developers* target for our end users? Without some stability on this image issue, 3rd-party developers are gonna get screwed. There may well be a market for new apps on OpenMoko; but not if there is no

Re: Which image

2008-07-01 Thread Jay Vaughan
What would be the best image to use currently. Is the FSO an option? Any advice? In my opinion, try them all and find one you like. There really needs to be a *much* better degree of pimp'atude coming from OpenMoko on the images to run .. like, an official page, available in a

Re: Which image

2008-07-01 Thread Charles Pax
Here is a good comparison of the images http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/06/28/gtk-asu-fso-tmtla/ -Charles On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:10 AM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be the best image to use currently. Is the FSO an option? Any advice? In my opinion,

Re: Which image

2008-07-01 Thread Michael Shiloh
Jay Vaughan wrote: What would be the best image to use currently. Is the FSO an option? Any advice? In my opinion, try them all and find one you like. There really needs to be a *much* better degree of pimp'atude coming from OpenMoko on the images to run This is my

Re: Which image

2008-07-01 Thread Jay Vaughan
This is my responsibility and I'm well aware that it's needed, and has been needed, for a very long time. Unfortunately time has not permitted me to attend to this yet. Well to help you out, I'll just keep talking about it for a while, but only every now and then, and at least only until

Re: Which image

2008-07-01 Thread Mo Abrahams
Are there any screenshots anywhere of the current state of FSO? I am interested because this thread is the first I have heard of it. On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 11:40 -0400, Charles Pax wrote: Here is a good comparison of the images

Re: Which image

2008-07-01 Thread Charles Pax
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Mo Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any screenshots anywhere of the current state of FSO? I am interested because this thread is the first I have heard of it. I haven't been able to find any, but keep an eye on http://planet.openmoko.org/ . That's

Re: Which image

2008-07-01 Thread JW
2008/7/1 Mo Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are there any screenshots anywhere of the current state of FSO? I am interested because this thread is the first I have heard of it. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=toPe0S8QpJY ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: Which image

2008-07-01 Thread Johny Tenfinger
http://dos.jogger.pl/2008/06/29/asu-to-przyszlosc/ 2008/7/1 Mo Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are there any screenshots anywhere of the current state of FSO? I am interested because this thread is the first I have heard of it. ___ Openmoko community

RE: Which image

2008-07-01 Thread steve
The base software is just that. Base software. It will function as an everyday phone with dialer, SMS, and contacts. So, you can take that base and build on it, by yourself or with others. Or, come August timeframe you can get the Beta release of ASU. FSO is a framework or middleware if you

Re: Which image

2008-07-01 Thread Clare Johnstone
Hi Folks, I have tried a lot of images, and been frequently disappointed by finding many Applications running on top of basic functionality with obvious and longstanding bugs. The latest image, the one called fso, is really exciting as it is simple to start with, beautiful to look at and seems

Re: Which image

2008-06-30 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 30 June 2008, Eildert Groeneveld wrote: Hello Folks so here it is the nice black box. It does boot and it could even connect to the Vodaphone network and got the LL phone ringing. great! But what now? The applications look rather skinny. What would be the best image to use