Re: tmobile wifi voice calls
I think the linphone version in OE would work if I could work out how to force opkg to use the 2.2.2 version of libosip2. Every time I try it insists on using 3.1.0 which doesn't work with linphone 1.6 :-( The alternative is making a .bb for the current linphone version, which has the advantage of having hooks so you can add a GUI. On Friday 18 July 2008, Ken Restivo wrote: First we need a phone app that supports SIP. I would very very much like to use the FR as a SIP phone. I don't need T-Mobile for that (and neither does anyone else), we just need a working phone app that supports VOIP as a back end, and access to open WiFi AP's (plenty of those around). I have a Diamondcard/Ekiga account for phone calls to the POTS network, and it works great and is dirt cheap. I wouldn't want to deal with proprietary crap like whatever T-Mobile is going to foist upon people. Is anyone porting Ekiga to the FR? I saw a component in ASU that looks like a VOIP back end for the Qtopia phone app; that'd kick ass if it was working. Any ideas what I'd need to do to get it to work? -ken On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 07:14:09PM -0400, c d r wrote: I'll begin to pursue this via the provided links in my copious spare time. Anyone interested in an ongoing dialog let me know. how well integrated is it? i was planning on using a moko, primarily via SIP/IAX but with T-Mo prepaid SIM for occasional GSM needs if it can seamlessly roll between the two, preferring wifi/sip (or their equiv) when available, that would kick ass Chris On Jul 17, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 17 July 2008, Carl Karsten wrote: Make and receive unlimited nationwide calls over Wi-Fi with your home phone. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=t b1rate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone know if the FR will work with whatever VoIP protocol t- mobile uses? does anyone even know what protocol it uses? I found this: The technology T-Mobile is using is called Unlicensed Mobile Access, or UMA. UMA takes the protocol used by GSM handsets and encapsulates it into an IPSec VPN for transmission over the public Internet. The VPN is authenticated using the subscriber's SIM card via a protocol called EAP-SIM. http://www.voip-weblog.com/50226711/is_the_linksys_wrtu54g_voip.php Nice prompt for a little background reading. From what I see it seems unlikely. strongSWAN appears to support IKEv2 and EAP-SIM but somehow I doubt T-Mobile will hand out the certificate needed in addition to the SIM. The bit that looks tricky is the signalling part to tell the mobile phone network that it can pass the call data over to the wifi connection. This is the sort of thing that's normally buried in the cellular modem, and I don't know of an open version of that. I could be pleasantly surprised though - it would be a good addition to have. [1] http://www.embedded.com/underthehood/205916513 [2] http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6470081317.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
tmobile wifi voice calls
Make and receive unlimited nationwide calls over Wi-Fi with your home phone. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=tb1[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone know if the FR will work with whatever VoIP protocol t-mobile uses? does anyone even know what protocol it uses? I found this: The technology T-Mobile is using is called Unlicensed Mobile Access, or UMA. UMA takes the protocol used by GSM handsets and encapsulates it into an IPSec VPN for transmission over the public Internet. The VPN is authenticated using the subscriber's SIM card via a protocol called EAP-SIM. http://www.voip-weblog.com/50226711/is_the_linksys_wrtu54g_voip.php Carl K ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tmobile wifi voice calls
On Thursday 17 July 2008, Carl Karsten wrote: Make and receive unlimited nationwide calls over Wi-Fi with your home phone. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=tb1rate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone know if the FR will work with whatever VoIP protocol t-mobile uses? does anyone even know what protocol it uses? I found this: The technology T-Mobile is using is called Unlicensed Mobile Access, or UMA. UMA takes the protocol used by GSM handsets and encapsulates it into an IPSec VPN for transmission over the public Internet. The VPN is authenticated using the subscriber's SIM card via a protocol called EAP-SIM. http://www.voip-weblog.com/50226711/is_the_linksys_wrtu54g_voip.php Nice prompt for a little background reading. From what I see it seems unlikely. strongSWAN appears to support IKEv2 and EAP-SIM but somehow I doubt T-Mobile will hand out the certificate needed in addition to the SIM. The bit that looks tricky is the signalling part to tell the mobile phone network that it can pass the call data over to the wifi connection. This is the sort of thing that's normally buried in the cellular modem, and I don't know of an open version of that. I could be pleasantly surprised though - it would be a good addition to have. [1] http://www.embedded.com/underthehood/205916513 [2] http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6470081317.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tmobile wifi voice calls
Although I'm not yet as knowledgeable about the details as I'll need to be, to be able to use my 'moko for this purpose is why I'm here. I have tmobile's @Home service and I'm currently using that sim on the FR ( the old Nokia 6086 with its BL-5C battery is in standby as an emergency battery charger ;-) ). I'll begin to pursue this via the provided links in my copious spare time. Anyone interested in an ongoing dialog let me know. Chris On Jul 17, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 17 July 2008, Carl Karsten wrote: Make and receive unlimited nationwide calls over Wi-Fi with your home phone. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=tb1rate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone know if the FR will work with whatever VoIP protocol t- mobile uses? does anyone even know what protocol it uses? I found this: The technology T-Mobile is using is called Unlicensed Mobile Access, or UMA. UMA takes the protocol used by GSM handsets and encapsulates it into an IPSec VPN for transmission over the public Internet. The VPN is authenticated using the subscriber's SIM card via a protocol called EAP-SIM. http://www.voip-weblog.com/50226711/is_the_linksys_wrtu54g_voip.php Nice prompt for a little background reading. From what I see it seems unlikely. strongSWAN appears to support IKEv2 and EAP-SIM but somehow I doubt T-Mobile will hand out the certificate needed in addition to the SIM. The bit that looks tricky is the signalling part to tell the mobile phone network that it can pass the call data over to the wifi connection. This is the sort of thing that's normally buried in the cellular modem, and I don't know of an open version of that. I could be pleasantly surprised though - it would be a good addition to have. [1] http://www.embedded.com/underthehood/205916513 [2] http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6470081317.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tmobile wifi voice calls
I'll begin to pursue this via the provided links in my copious spare time. Anyone interested in an ongoing dialog let me know. how well integrated is it? i was planning on using a moko, primarily via SIP/IAX but with T-Mo prepaid SIM for occasional GSM needs if it can seamlessly roll between the two, preferring wifi/sip (or their equiv) when available, that would kick ass Chris On Jul 17, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 17 July 2008, Carl Karsten wrote: Make and receive unlimited nationwide calls over Wi-Fi with your home phone. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=tb1rate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone know if the FR will work with whatever VoIP protocol t- mobile uses? does anyone even know what protocol it uses? I found this: The technology T-Mobile is using is called Unlicensed Mobile Access, or UMA. UMA takes the protocol used by GSM handsets and encapsulates it into an IPSec VPN for transmission over the public Internet. The VPN is authenticated using the subscriber's SIM card via a protocol called EAP-SIM. http://www.voip-weblog.com/50226711/is_the_linksys_wrtu54g_voip.php Nice prompt for a little background reading. From what I see it seems unlikely. strongSWAN appears to support IKEv2 and EAP-SIM but somehow I doubt T-Mobile will hand out the certificate needed in addition to the SIM. The bit that looks tricky is the signalling part to tell the mobile phone network that it can pass the call data over to the wifi connection. This is the sort of thing that's normally buried in the cellular modem, and I don't know of an open version of that. I could be pleasantly surprised though - it would be a good addition to have. [1] http://www.embedded.com/underthehood/205916513 [2] http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6470081317.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tmobile wifi voice calls
First we need a phone app that supports SIP. I would very very much like to use the FR as a SIP phone. I don't need T-Mobile for that (and neither does anyone else), we just need a working phone app that supports VOIP as a back end, and access to open WiFi AP's (plenty of those around). I have a Diamondcard/Ekiga account for phone calls to the POTS network, and it works great and is dirt cheap. I wouldn't want to deal with proprietary crap like whatever T-Mobile is going to foist upon people. Is anyone porting Ekiga to the FR? I saw a component in ASU that looks like a VOIP back end for the Qtopia phone app; that'd kick ass if it was working. Any ideas what I'd need to do to get it to work? -ken On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 07:14:09PM -0400, c d r wrote: I'll begin to pursue this via the provided links in my copious spare time. Anyone interested in an ongoing dialog let me know. how well integrated is it? i was planning on using a moko, primarily via SIP/IAX but with T-Mo prepaid SIM for occasional GSM needs if it can seamlessly roll between the two, preferring wifi/sip (or their equiv) when available, that would kick ass Chris On Jul 17, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 17 July 2008, Carl Karsten wrote: Make and receive unlimited nationwide calls over Wi-Fi with your home phone. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=tb1rate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone know if the FR will work with whatever VoIP protocol t- mobile uses? does anyone even know what protocol it uses? I found this: The technology T-Mobile is using is called Unlicensed Mobile Access, or UMA. UMA takes the protocol used by GSM handsets and encapsulates it into an IPSec VPN for transmission over the public Internet. The VPN is authenticated using the subscriber's SIM card via a protocol called EAP-SIM. http://www.voip-weblog.com/50226711/is_the_linksys_wrtu54g_voip.php Nice prompt for a little background reading. From what I see it seems unlikely. strongSWAN appears to support IKEv2 and EAP-SIM but somehow I doubt T-Mobile will hand out the certificate needed in addition to the SIM. The bit that looks tricky is the signalling part to tell the mobile phone network that it can pass the call data over to the wifi connection. This is the sort of thing that's normally buried in the cellular modem, and I don't know of an open version of that. I could be pleasantly surprised though - it would be a good addition to have. [1] http://www.embedded.com/underthehood/205916513 [2] http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6470081317.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tmobile wifi voice calls
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey, I've been trying to get twinkle (a sip client) compiled on the openmoko, but I can't get GCC to work. If we can get a c compiler I think theres a good chance twinkle will work Ken Restivo wrote: First we need a phone app that supports SIP. I would very very much like to use the FR as a SIP phone. I don't need T-Mobile for that (and neither does anyone else), we just need a working phone app that supports VOIP as a back end, and access to open WiFi AP's (plenty of those around). I have a Diamondcard/Ekiga account for phone calls to the POTS network, and it works great and is dirt cheap. I wouldn't want to deal with proprietary crap like whatever T-Mobile is going to foist upon people. Is anyone porting Ekiga to the FR? I saw a component in ASU that looks like a VOIP back end for the Qtopia phone app; that'd kick ass if it was working. Any ideas what I'd need to do to get it to work? -ken On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 07:14:09PM -0400, c d r wrote: I'll begin to pursue this via the provided links in my copious spare time. Anyone interested in an ongoing dialog let me know. how well integrated is it? i was planning on using a moko, primarily via SIP/IAX but with T-Mo prepaid SIM for occasional GSM needs if it can seamlessly roll between the two, preferring wifi/sip (or their equiv) when available, that would kick ass Chris On Jul 17, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 17 July 2008, Carl Karsten wrote: Make and receive unlimited nationwide calls over Wi-Fi with your home phone. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=tb1rate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone know if the FR will work with whatever VoIP protocol t- mobile uses? does anyone even know what protocol it uses? I found this: The technology T-Mobile is using is called Unlicensed Mobile Access, or UMA. UMA takes the protocol used by GSM handsets and encapsulates it into an IPSec VPN for transmission over the public Internet. The VPN is authenticated using the subscriber's SIM card via a protocol called EAP-SIM. http://www.voip-weblog.com/50226711/is_the_linksys_wrtu54g_voip.php Nice prompt for a little background reading. From what I see it seems unlikely. strongSWAN appears to support IKEv2 and EAP-SIM but somehow I doubt T-Mobile will hand out the certificate needed in addition to the SIM. The bit that looks tricky is the signalling part to tell the mobile phone network that it can pass the call data over to the wifi connection. This is the sort of thing that's normally buried in the cellular modem, and I don't know of an open version of that. I could be pleasantly surprised though - it would be a good addition to have. [1] http://www.embedded.com/underthehood/205916513 [2] http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6470081317.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIf/ANR7UPrMLya90RAmjPAKDKfu9sF4f82giPmvzxYPLChbzHywCg1pBc qvfNcEfxyGmDv5l1EQSDdzc= =98cn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
