Re: #1024-rework service available
Michael Smith a écrit : > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:04:54 +0100 > Davide Scaini wrote: > > >> Hi Michael, >> i'm also interested in doing teh rework on my own, but on this page >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/1024 and related links there are only few >> images... so can you please post yours when your work is done? >> > > Okay I will do that. > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > some of mine here in the mess : http://freerunner.daily.free.fr/wp-content/ it was my first attempt with HUGE cap ! (but it worked !) Really easy to do ! Good luck AstHrO ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:04:54 +0100 Davide Scaini wrote: > Hi Michael, > i'm also interested in doing teh rework on my own, but on this page > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/1024 and related links there are only few > images... so can you please post yours when your work is done? Okay I will do that. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
Hi Michael, i'm also interested in doing teh rework on my own, but on this page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/1024 and related links there are only few images... so can you please post yours when your work is done? thanks d (if you want/can you can contact me directly) On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Michael Smith < michael.sm...@netapps.com.au> wrote: > On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:05:50 +1100 > Chris Samuel wrote: > > Or Australia ? > > Hi. I'm in Melbourne too. > > Needing to buzz fix an A6 I asked a few electronics engineers. I was > looking for somebody who would do delicate soldering work for an hourly > rate. The consensus from people I spoke to was that while there are a few > small businesses who do electronic work, few would be interested in small > jobs. > > A co-worker of mine offered to do the buzz fix for me. This person tends to > over rate his ability. I should have remembered this when I agreed for him > to do the work. I plan to tool up and redo the soldering on that phone in > the next couple of weeks. > > The problem with little jobs like this is liability. If he stuffs up, who > takes responsibility? On small jobs it is impossible to get insurance. > > So I am going to do a buzz fix soon. The #1024 fix seems more complicated > because you have to disassemble parts of the phone which may be hard to put > back together. I might try this procedure on the phone which I am going to > do the buzz fix on. I can more afford to stuff that one up. > > I will post the results here: > > http://glitch.tl/working_with_shr.html > > Regards, > -- > Michael Smith > Network Applications > www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 > Web Hosting | Internet Services > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 08:16:59AM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > How to test if my devices works or needs rework > > • obtain a command line (e.g. ssh from outside) > • open /usr/bin/mickeyterm > • type these commands (one after the other) > AT+CFUN? > AT+CFUN="1" --- only if CFUN? does not report 1 > AT+CPIN="insert your pin" > AT%SLEEP=4 > AT%CSQ=1 > AT+CREG=2 > AT+COPS=0,0 > • wait some minutes. If you see +CREG: 0 and/or %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 your > device is "recamping". > > here a good device: > +CREG: 2 > +CREG: 1,"033F","5BC4" > %CSQ: 13, 99, 1 > %CSQ: 7, 99, 0 > %CSQ: 10, 99, 1 > +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" > %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 > %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 > and here a bad device: > +CREG: 2 > +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" > %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 > +CREG: 0 > %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 > +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" > %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 > +CREG: 0 > %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 > +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" > %CSQ: 17, 99, 1 > +CREG: 0 Can you give me an estimate of how much and how long it would take to send a fixed freerunner from your place to Portugal? I want to know the total cost before deciding wether to order it from you... Thanks, Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb: > Am 23.10.2009 um 13:21 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: > >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller >> wrote: >>> Q: Bass-Rework? >>> A: we currently have no plans because it is again a different work >>> which has to be evaluated, tested, prepared for the public. And >>> demand >>> appears to be lower. >> But having bass rework the same time as the 1024 fix, its a huge >> benefit and also >> more attractive service. >> >> I for example will never send my phone for just to the #1024 fix, >> because I plan >> to in a way or another apply the bass fix. >> So no point to sending you to do the half of the job. (the easier >> half actually) >> >> Frankly, when you dismounted the phone, and you have the necessary >> tools in your hand, than applying >> the bass rework in plus, is a negligible price > > No. You have to open a different tin can. You have to cut and solder > different cables. The test procedure is different. > > We want to make sure that every fix we offer really works, is > reproducible and has high quality. Therfore, it is not "just" doing > the same thing again. > > The common work is of course the logistics which is done only once. > >> In my really biased view, I find ugly to coming up each quarter year >> to provide a separate fix, and thus requireing people to send you >> their freerunner multiple times... > > Nobody is required to ask for the reworks at all... > >> ((also I find not fair to having the two fix together involves almost >> the double price, as it does not require double amount of work)) > > We are a community. Therfore, you are free (and I hope open) to come > up with your own, cheaper offers... > > Nikolaus > >> Best regards, >> Laszlo >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Have any effords been done to prepare a bass-fix? Can you guess a date where and if you will offer it? When it will be offered I would prefer to let both be fixed. Greeti+ngs Bastian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFK4cNmlYiDScJJ+7QRAghCAJ4id8XY0jvNiiS4JJ64hozNjfmOcQCgxGmI UDej8HKJjUbL+RWSu9bwrSM= =K9Pi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Am Freitag, den 23.10.2009, 12:39 +0200 schrieb Yorick Moko: >> thanks for offering this service! (although too bad I already sent my >> device once to Germany) >> can you give us an indication on how much this would improve batterylife? >> >> I'm assuming it only extends standby-time. >> >> I once saw a graph that indicated that it was a huge boost, but can't >> find it anymore > > In optimal conditions, it's going to double your standby time from ~70h > to ~140h. I did a few tests with #1024-fixed A6 (bouncing before) with 2 batteries (one-year-old-one, new-one) and in both cases I was able to get about 100hours of standby (just waking it up from time to time, GSM on, everything else hopefully off; shr-u). What I have to mention though is that sometimes my fr wakes up autonomously (and goes to suspend after a while of inactivity) (I suppose this can be due to some GSM events - but not on a 'normal' cell roam).. so while I didn't see the phone to wake up during tests it might have happened. Still, 4 days is a very good improvement :) Vlado -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iJwEAQECAAYFAkrhr5QACgkQutgEj9ZLuzRu5QP9GZwjiz4aInZelN8Y2oTh2uOf 8Oxj8V/yV00y644uy3cnXFhwUFfSrNooeEXkPM3Ly2HKmv9G9IHBPcWPwGQoQZdi 7skdHsTfbd4CbPj6kpqAKGa1klfjYNpvSofkzxJob89E9XL1tjMQjKfrkj0hZWXu 1jGMzUfwYux9Is8F2Fg= =DrCw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
Am 23.10.2009 um 13:21 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > wrote: >> Q: Bass-Rework? >> A: we currently have no plans because it is again a different work >> which has to be evaluated, tested, prepared for the public. And >> demand >> appears to be lower. > > But having bass rework the same time as the 1024 fix, its a huge > benefit and also > more attractive service. > > I for example will never send my phone for just to the #1024 fix, > because I plan > to in a way or another apply the bass fix. > So no point to sending you to do the half of the job. (the easier > half actually) > > Frankly, when you dismounted the phone, and you have the necessary > tools in your hand, than applying > the bass rework in plus, is a negligible price No. You have to open a different tin can. You have to cut and solder different cables. The test procedure is different. We want to make sure that every fix we offer really works, is reproducible and has high quality. Therfore, it is not "just" doing the same thing again. The common work is of course the logistics which is done only once. > In my really biased view, I find ugly to coming up each quarter year > to provide a separate fix, and thus requireing people to send you > their freerunner multiple times... Nobody is required to ask for the reworks at all... > ((also I find not fair to having the two fix together involves almost > the double price, as it does not require double amount of work)) We are a community. Therfore, you are free (and I hope open) to come up with your own, cheaper offers... Nikolaus > > Best regards, > Laszlo > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Q: Bass-Rework? > A: we currently have no plans because it is again a different work > which has to be evaluated, tested, prepared for the public. And demand > appears to be lower. But having bass rework the same time as the 1024 fix, its a huge benefit and also more attractive service. I for example will never send my phone for just to the #1024 fix, because I plan to in a way or another apply the bass fix. So no point to sending you to do the half of the job. (the easier half actually) Frankly, when you dismounted the phone, and you have the necessary tools in your hand, than applying the bass rework in plus, is a negligible price In my really biased view, I find ugly to coming up each quarter year to provide a separate fix, and thus requireing people to send you their freerunner multiple times... ((also I find not fair to having the two fix together involves almost the double price, as it does not require double amount of work)) Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
if i buy the rework, i would by an invisible shield as well. would you be able to apply that shield to the lcd since the cover is off anyway? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:06:07 +0200 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer (M'L) wrote: >Am Freitag, den 23.10.2009, 12:39 +0200 schrieb Yorick Moko: >> thanks for offering this service! (although too bad I already sent my >> device once to Germany) >> can you give us an indication on how much this would improve >> batterylife? >> >> I'm assuming it only extends standby-time. >> >> I once saw a graph that indicated that it was a huge boost, but can't >> find it anymore > >In optimal conditions, it's going to double your standby time from ~70h >to ~140h. During first live tests this week, qtmoko managed to last two full days (plus nights) of quite a bit of calls and messaging with occasional checking of status, gprs connection andgps. Previously, one day of use would drain the battery so this is an improvement. As the testing is subjective to usage, we will see in the near future what the real stand by time might be. Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
> > thanks for offering this service! (although too bad I already sent my > device once to Germany) > can you give us an indication on how much this would improve batterylife? > > I'm assuming it only extends standby-time. > > I once saw a graph that indicated that it was a huge boost, but can't > find it anymore > Did you mean this pointer: http://totalueberwachung.de/blog/2009/06/03/freerunner-deep-sleep-standby-time ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
Hi all, here some answers to recent questions: Q: Rework service for USA, Canada, Australia? A: unfortunately handling import/re-export is too much paperwork and if anything goes wrong, someone might have to pay taxes again. And, shipment is either very slow or much more expensive than within EU. This would make it cheaper to buy a new one... You could ask SDG Systems since they also had organized the Buzz- Rework in Canada, i.e. they have a company capable of doing it. Q: Bass-Rework? A: we currently have no plans because it is again a different work which has to be evaluated, tested, prepared for the public. And demand appears to be lower. Q: how much does it improve? A: here is a report of 143 hours standby time: http://totalueberwachung.de/blog/2009/06/03/freerunner-deep-sleep-standby-time Q: when does GTA02-core or GTA03 come fixing all these issues? A: we don't know either Nikolaus Am 23.10.2009 um 12:39 schrieb Yorick Moko: > On 10/22/09, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> some users of Neo Freerunner devices have experienced a limited >> standby time if the GSM modem goes to the deepest sleep mode. This >> became known as the #1024 bug, because that was the number it got in >> the bug tracker (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024). The >> software workaround was to disable sleep mode 4 as the default. >> Although there is a description of a hardware rework solution >> (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html >> ) we do not expect that you can do it yourself. Therefore, we have >> worked on a professional approach. >> >> With the help of a local SMD specialist company in Munich, Golden >> Delicious Computers can now offer a rework service to those who >> really >> suffer from this problem. Price is 45 EUR (incl. German VAT of 19%). >> If you combine with the Buzz-Rework (for A5 and A6 versions only) it >> is 75 EUR. And there is a rebate for groups of 5 or 10 units. >> >> http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=1024-Rework >> >> Nikolaus >> >> >> >> Conditions >> >> • This service is for the EU harmonized market only (sorry for >> Norway >> & Switzerland) >> • Customer will send in, get rework and get the device sent back >> within approx. two weeks >> • The 2 way shipping cost will be covered by the customer. >> • When choosing a parcel service, please choose one that allows you >> to track your parcel since we are not responsible for incoming >> parcels. For German customers we recommend Hermes-Versand and for UK >> Royal Mail. >> • Please pack carefully, but just the Neo Freerunner (without >> battery, battery cover, headset, pouch, stylus, SIM card, SDcard >> etc.). We are not responsible for lost accessories - only for the >> device. We strongly recommend to use the original black box. >> • In the rare case that we damage your device, you will get a fresh >> Neo Freerunner (but your data is lost). >> • If you have several Freerunners to rework, please add as many >> Reworks as you want to the shopping cart. This will reduce shipment >> cost compared to several single shipments. And, we offer a volume >> discount to encourage group buys (5: 5%; 10: 10%; 50: 15%). Rebates >> are automatically shown in the shopping cart. >> >> Important notes >> >> • After payment is done, please follow the Rework Instructions >> (http://www.handheld-linux.com/images/Instructions.pdf >> ) >> • Please note that we can handle this service only for customers in >> the EU harmonized market because temporary import/export is too >> complicated if we want to avoid that you (or we) have to pay again >> the >> import tax for your original Freerunner. >> • This is not a Bass-Fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix >> >> How to test if my devices works or needs rework >> >> • obtain a command line (e.g. ssh from outside) >> • open /usr/bin/mickeyterm >> • type these commands (one after the other) >> AT+CFUN? >> AT+CFUN="1" --- only if CFUN? does not report 1 >> AT+CPIN="insert your pin" >> AT%SLEEP=4 >> AT%CSQ=1 >> AT+CREG=2 >> AT+COPS=0,0 >> • wait some minutes. If you see +CREG: 0 and/or %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 your >> device is "recamping". >> >> here a good device: >> +CREG: 2 >> +CREG: 1,"033F","5BC4" >> %CSQ: 13, 99, 1 >> %CSQ: 7, 99, 0 >> %CSQ: 10, 99, 1 >> +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" >> %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 >> %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 >> and here a bad device: >> +CREG: 2 >> +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" >> %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 >> +CREG: 0 >> %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 >> +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" >> %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 >> +CREG: 0 >> %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 >> +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" >> %CSQ: 17, 99, 1 >> +CREG: 0 >> >> >> >> Mobile Office Solutions >> by Golden Delicious Computers GmbH&Co. KG >> Buchenstr. 3 >> D-82041 Oberhaching >> +49-89-54290367 >> http://www.handheld-linux.com >> >> AG München, HRA 89571 >> VAT DE253626266 >> Komplementär: >> Golde
Re: #1024-rework service available
Am Freitag, den 23.10.2009, 12:39 +0200 schrieb Yorick Moko: > thanks for offering this service! (although too bad I already sent my > device once to Germany) > can you give us an indication on how much this would improve batterylife? > > I'm assuming it only extends standby-time. > > I once saw a graph that indicated that it was a huge boost, but can't > find it anymore In optimal conditions, it's going to double your standby time from ~70h to ~140h. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
On 10/22/09, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Hi all, > > some users of Neo Freerunner devices have experienced a limited > standby time if the GSM modem goes to the deepest sleep mode. This > became known as the #1024 bug, because that was the number it got in > the bug tracker (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024). The > software workaround was to disable sleep mode 4 as the default. > Although there is a description of a hardware rework solution > (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html > ) we do not expect that you can do it yourself. Therefore, we have > worked on a professional approach. > > With the help of a local SMD specialist company in Munich, Golden > Delicious Computers can now offer a rework service to those who really > suffer from this problem. Price is 45 EUR (incl. German VAT of 19%). > If you combine with the Buzz-Rework (for A5 and A6 versions only) it > is 75 EUR. And there is a rebate for groups of 5 or 10 units. > > http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=1024-Rework > > Nikolaus > > > > Conditions > > • This service is for the EU harmonized market only (sorry for Norway > & Switzerland) > • Customer will send in, get rework and get the device sent back > within approx. two weeks > • The 2 way shipping cost will be covered by the customer. > • When choosing a parcel service, please choose one that allows you > to track your parcel since we are not responsible for incoming > parcels. For German customers we recommend Hermes-Versand and for UK > Royal Mail. > • Please pack carefully, but just the Neo Freerunner (without > battery, battery cover, headset, pouch, stylus, SIM card, SDcard > etc.). We are not responsible for lost accessories - only for the > device. We strongly recommend to use the original black box. > • In the rare case that we damage your device, you will get a fresh > Neo Freerunner (but your data is lost). > • If you have several Freerunners to rework, please add as many > Reworks as you want to the shopping cart. This will reduce shipment > cost compared to several single shipments. And, we offer a volume > discount to encourage group buys (5: 5%; 10: 10%; 50: 15%). Rebates > are automatically shown in the shopping cart. > > Important notes > > • After payment is done, please follow the Rework Instructions > (http://www.handheld-linux.com/images/Instructions.pdf > ) > • Please note that we can handle this service only for customers in > the EU harmonized market because temporary import/export is too > complicated if we want to avoid that you (or we) have to pay again the > import tax for your original Freerunner. > • This is not a Bass-Fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix > > How to test if my devices works or needs rework > > • obtain a command line (e.g. ssh from outside) > • open /usr/bin/mickeyterm > • type these commands (one after the other) > AT+CFUN? > AT+CFUN="1" --- only if CFUN? does not report 1 > AT+CPIN="insert your pin" > AT%SLEEP=4 > AT%CSQ=1 > AT+CREG=2 > AT+COPS=0,0 > • wait some minutes. If you see +CREG: 0 and/or %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 your > device is "recamping". > > here a good device: > +CREG: 2 > +CREG: 1,"033F","5BC4" > %CSQ: 13, 99, 1 > %CSQ: 7, 99, 0 > %CSQ: 10, 99, 1 > +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" > %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 > %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 > and here a bad device: > +CREG: 2 > +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" > %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 > +CREG: 0 > %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 > +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" > %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 > +CREG: 0 > %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 > +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" > %CSQ: 17, 99, 1 > +CREG: 0 > > > > Mobile Office Solutions > by Golden Delicious Computers GmbH&Co. KG > Buchenstr. 3 > D-82041 Oberhaching > +49-89-54290367 > http://www.handheld-linux.com > > AG München, HRA 89571 > VAT DE253626266 > Komplementär: > Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH > Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 > Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller > > Digital Tools for Independent People > > > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Hi, thanks for offering this service! (although too bad I already sent my device once to Germany) can you give us an indication on how much this would improve batterylife? I'm assuming it only extends standby-time. I once saw a graph that indicated that it was a huge boost, but can't find it anymore y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:05:50 +1100 Chris Samuel wrote: > Or Australia ? Hi. I'm in Melbourne too. Needing to buzz fix an A6 I asked a few electronics engineers. I was looking for somebody who would do delicate soldering work for an hourly rate. The consensus from people I spoke to was that while there are a few small businesses who do electronic work, few would be interested in small jobs. A co-worker of mine offered to do the buzz fix for me. This person tends to over rate his ability. I should have remembered this when I agreed for him to do the work. I plan to tool up and redo the soldering on that phone in the next couple of weeks. The problem with little jobs like this is liability. If he stuffs up, who takes responsibility? On small jobs it is impossible to get insurance. So I am going to do a buzz fix soon. The #1024 fix seems more complicated because you have to disassemble parts of the phone which may be hard to put back together. I might try this procedure on the phone which I am going to do the buzz fix on. I can more afford to stuff that one up. I will post the results here: http://glitch.tl/working_with_shr.html Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:59:06 am Steven ** wrote: > Is there someone offering a similar service in the US? Or Australia ? -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:04:33PM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: > Dr.H.NikolausS wrote: > > ??? This is not a Bass-Fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix > > Is this planned in the future? > I'd like to buy all the fixes at once... Me too. My freerunner happily went to Germany once but I don't want to make him sad with too much travelling :-( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: #1024-rework service available
|-Original Message- |From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community- |boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Steven ** |Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:59 PM |To: List for Openmoko community discussion |Subject: Re: #1024-rework service available | |On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller | wrote: |> Hi all, |> |> Conditions |> |>. This service is for the EU harmonized market only (sorry for |Norway |> & Switzerland) | |So, this excludes US customers? | |Is there someone offering a similar service in the US? | |Thanks, |Steven +1 [Russell Dwiggins] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Hi all, > > Conditions > >• This service is for the EU harmonized market only (sorry for Norway > & Switzerland) So, this excludes US customers? Is there someone offering a similar service in the US? Thanks, Steven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
Dr.H.NikolausS wrote: > • This is not a Bass-Fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix Is this planned in the future? I'd like to buy all the fixes at once... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb: > Hi all, > > some users of Neo Freerunner devices have experienced a limited > standby time if the GSM modem goes to the deepest sleep mode. This > became known as the #1024 bug, because that was the number it got > in the bug tracker (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024). > The software workaround was to disable sleep mode 4 as the default. > Although there is a description of a hardware rework solution > (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html > ) we do not expect that you can do it yourself. Therefore, we have > worked on a professional approach. > > With the help of a local SMD specialist company in Munich, Golden > Delicious Computers can now offer a rework service to those who > really suffer from this problem. Price is 45 EUR (incl. German VAT > of 19%). If you combine with the Buzz-Rework (for A5 and A6 > versions only) it is 75 EUR. And there is a rebate for groups of 5 > or 10 units. > > http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=1024-Rework > > Nikolaus > > > > Conditions > > • This service is for the EU harmonized market only (sorry for > Norway & Switzerland) • Customer will send in, get rework and get > the device sent back within approx. two weeks • The 2 way shipping > cost will be covered by the customer. • When choosing a parcel > service, please choose one that allows you to track your parcel > since we are not responsible for incoming parcels. For German > customers we recommend Hermes-Versand and for UK Royal Mail. • > Please pack carefully, but just the Neo Freerunner (without > battery, battery cover, headset, pouch, stylus, SIM card, SDcard > etc.). We are not responsible for lost accessories - only for the > device. We strongly recommend to use the original black box. • In > the rare case that we damage your device, you will get a fresh Neo > Freerunner (but your data is lost). • If you have several > Freerunners to rework, please add as many Reworks as you want to > the shopping cart. This will reduce shipment cost compared to > several single shipments. And, we offer a volume discount to > encourage group buys (5: 5%; 10: 10%; 50: 15%). Rebates are > automatically shown in the shopping cart. > > Important notes > > • After payment is done, please follow the Rework Instructions > (http://www.handheld-linux.com/images/Instructions.pdf ) • Please > note that we can handle this service only for customers in the EU > harmonized market because temporary import/export is too > complicated if we want to avoid that you (or we) have to pay again > the import tax for your original Freerunner. • This is not a > Bass-Fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix > > How to test if my devices works or needs rework > > • obtain a command line (e.g. ssh from outside) • open > /usr/bin/mickeyterm • type these commands (one after the other) > AT+CFUN? AT+CFUN="1" --- only if CFUN? does not report 1 > AT+CPIN="insert your pin" AT%SLEEP=4 AT%CSQ=1 AT+CREG=2 AT+COPS=0,0 > • wait some minutes. If you see +CREG: 0 and/or %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 > your device is "recamping". > > here a good device: +CREG: 2 +CREG: 1,"033F","5BC4" %CSQ: 13, 99, 1 > %CSQ: 7, 99, 0 %CSQ: 10, 99, 1 +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" %CSQ: 18, > 99, 2 %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 and here a bad device: +CREG: 2 +CREG: > 1,"033F","2992" %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 +CREG: 0 %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 +CREG: > 1,"033F","2992" %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 +CREG: 0 %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 +CREG: > 1,"033F","2992" %CSQ: 17, 99, 1 +CREG: 0 > > > > Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbH&Co. KG > Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 > http://www.handheld-linux.com > > AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden > Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB > 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller > > Digital Tools for Independent People > > > > > > > > > ___ Openmoko community > mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > That are great news. I guess that I will buy the rework. Greetungs Bastian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFK4IgklYiDScJJ+7QRAuuOAJ93sAosN+Dqd5gIUQ5q6dSoMB96fgCgzzNI g3ZU3NZSLHa+4vSBPFnyvtI= =Komc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
Am 22.10.2009 um 12:48 schrieb George Brooke: > On Thursday 22 Oct 2009 07:16:59 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> some users of Neo Freerunner devices have experienced a limited >> standby time if the GSM modem goes to the deepest sleep mode. This >> became known as the #1024 bug, because that was the number it got in >> the bug tracker (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024). The >> software workaround was to disable sleep mode 4 as the default. >> Although there is a description of a hardware rework solution >> (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/ >> 001192.html ) we do >> not expect that you can do it yourself. Therefore, we have worked >> on a >> professional approach. >> >> With the help of a local SMD specialist company in Munich, Golden >> Delicious Computers can now offer a rework service to those who >> really >> suffer from this problem. Price is 45 EUR (incl. German VAT of 19%). >> If you combine with the Buzz-Rework (for A5 and A6 versions only) it >> is 75 EUR. And there is a rebate for groups of 5 or 10 units. >> >> http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=1024-Rework >> >> Nikolaus >> >> >> >> Conditions >> >> • This service is for the EU harmonized market only (sorry for >> Norway >> & Switzerland) >> • Customer will send in, get rework and get the device sent back >> within approx. two weeks >> • The 2 way shipping cost will be covered by the customer. >> • When choosing a parcel service, please choose one that allows you >> to track your parcel since we are not responsible for incoming >> parcels. For German customers we recommend Hermes-Versand and for UK >> Royal Mail. >> • Please pack carefully, but just the Neo Freerunner (without >> battery, battery cover, headset, pouch, stylus, SIM card, SDcard >> etc.). We are not responsible for lost accessories - only for the >> device. We strongly recommend to use the original black box. >> • In the rare case that we damage your device, you will get a fresh >> Neo Freerunner (but your data is lost). >> • If you have several Freerunners to rework, please add as many >> Reworks as you want to the shopping cart. This will reduce shipment >> cost compared to several single shipments. And, we offer a volume >> discount to encourage group buys (5: 5%; 10: 10%; 50: 15%). Rebates >> are automatically shown in the shopping cart. >> >> Important notes >> >> • After payment is done, please follow the Rework Instructions >> (http://www.handheld-linux.com/images/Instructions.pdf ) >> • Please note that we can handle this service only for customers in >> the EU harmonized market because temporary import/export is too >> complicated if we want to avoid that you (or we) have to pay again >> the >> import tax for your original Freerunner. >> • This is not a Bass-Fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix >> >> How to test if my devices works or needs rework >> >> • obtain a command line (e.g. ssh from outside) >> • open /usr/bin/mickeyterm >> • type these commands (one after the other) >> AT+CFUN? >> AT+CFUN="1" --- only if CFUN? does not report 1 >> AT+CPIN="insert your pin" >> AT%SLEEP=4 >> AT%CSQ=1 >> AT+CREG=2 >> AT+COPS=0,0 >> • wait some minutes. If you see +CREG: 0 and/or %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 your >> device is "recamping". >> >> here a good device: >> +CREG: 2 >> +CREG: 1,"033F","5BC4" >> %CSQ: 13, 99, 1 >> %CSQ: 7, 99, 0 >> %CSQ: 10, 99, 1 >> +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" >> %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 >> %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 >> and here a bad device: >> +CREG: 2 >> +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" >> %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 >> +CREG: 0 >> %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 >> +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" >> %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 >> +CREG: 0 >> %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 >> +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" >> %CSQ: 17, 99, 1 >> +CREG: 0 >> > Do you need to enable deep sleep mode before doing the test? I think the command AT%SLEEP=4 enables the deep sleep of the modem. > Also is this a time-limited service? No, we offer it as long as there is demand. Well, nobody knows what we can provide in 10 or 20 years :) And if we extrapolate technology innovation you probably won't be interested then... > > solar.george > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
On Thursday 22 Oct 2009 07:16:59 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Hi all, > > some users of Neo Freerunner devices have experienced a limited > standby time if the GSM modem goes to the deepest sleep mode. This > became known as the #1024 bug, because that was the number it got in > the bug tracker (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024). The > software workaround was to disable sleep mode 4 as the default. > Although there is a description of a hardware rework solution > (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html ) we do > not expect that you can do it yourself. Therefore, we have worked on a > professional approach. > > With the help of a local SMD specialist company in Munich, Golden > Delicious Computers can now offer a rework service to those who really > suffer from this problem. Price is 45 EUR (incl. German VAT of 19%). > If you combine with the Buzz-Rework (for A5 and A6 versions only) it > is 75 EUR. And there is a rebate for groups of 5 or 10 units. > > http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=1024-Rework > > Nikolaus > > > > Conditions > > • This service is for the EU harmonized market only (sorry for Norway > & Switzerland) > • Customer will send in, get rework and get the device sent back > within approx. two weeks > • The 2 way shipping cost will be covered by the customer. > • When choosing a parcel service, please choose one that allows you > to track your parcel since we are not responsible for incoming > parcels. For German customers we recommend Hermes-Versand and for UK > Royal Mail. > • Please pack carefully, but just the Neo Freerunner (without > battery, battery cover, headset, pouch, stylus, SIM card, SDcard > etc.). We are not responsible for lost accessories - only for the > device. We strongly recommend to use the original black box. > • In the rare case that we damage your device, you will get a fresh > Neo Freerunner (but your data is lost). > • If you have several Freerunners to rework, please add as many > Reworks as you want to the shopping cart. This will reduce shipment > cost compared to several single shipments. And, we offer a volume > discount to encourage group buys (5: 5%; 10: 10%; 50: 15%). Rebates > are automatically shown in the shopping cart. > > Important notes > > • After payment is done, please follow the Rework Instructions > (http://www.handheld-linux.com/images/Instructions.pdf ) > • Please note that we can handle this service only for customers in > the EU harmonized market because temporary import/export is too > complicated if we want to avoid that you (or we) have to pay again the > import tax for your original Freerunner. > • This is not a Bass-Fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix > > How to test if my devices works or needs rework > > • obtain a command line (e.g. ssh from outside) > • open /usr/bin/mickeyterm > • type these commands (one after the other) > AT+CFUN? > AT+CFUN="1" --- only if CFUN? does not report 1 > AT+CPIN="insert your pin" > AT%SLEEP=4 > AT%CSQ=1 > AT+CREG=2 > AT+COPS=0,0 > • wait some minutes. If you see +CREG: 0 and/or %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 your > device is "recamping". > > here a good device: > +CREG: 2 > +CREG: 1,"033F","5BC4" > %CSQ: 13, 99, 1 > %CSQ: 7, 99, 0 > %CSQ: 10, 99, 1 > +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" > %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 > %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 > and here a bad device: > +CREG: 2 > +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" > %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 > +CREG: 0 > %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 > +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" > %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 > +CREG: 0 > %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 > +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" > %CSQ: 17, 99, 1 > +CREG: 0 > Do you need to enable deep sleep mode before doing the test? Also is this a time-limited service? solar.george signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
#1024-rework service available
Hi all, some users of Neo Freerunner devices have experienced a limited standby time if the GSM modem goes to the deepest sleep mode. This became known as the #1024 bug, because that was the number it got in the bug tracker (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024). The software workaround was to disable sleep mode 4 as the default. Although there is a description of a hardware rework solution (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html ) we do not expect that you can do it yourself. Therefore, we have worked on a professional approach. With the help of a local SMD specialist company in Munich, Golden Delicious Computers can now offer a rework service to those who really suffer from this problem. Price is 45 EUR (incl. German VAT of 19%). If you combine with the Buzz-Rework (for A5 and A6 versions only) it is 75 EUR. And there is a rebate for groups of 5 or 10 units. http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=1024-Rework Nikolaus Conditions • This service is for the EU harmonized market only (sorry for Norway & Switzerland) • Customer will send in, get rework and get the device sent back within approx. two weeks • The 2 way shipping cost will be covered by the customer. • When choosing a parcel service, please choose one that allows you to track your parcel since we are not responsible for incoming parcels. For German customers we recommend Hermes-Versand and for UK Royal Mail. • Please pack carefully, but just the Neo Freerunner (without battery, battery cover, headset, pouch, stylus, SIM card, SDcard etc.). We are not responsible for lost accessories - only for the device. We strongly recommend to use the original black box. • In the rare case that we damage your device, you will get a fresh Neo Freerunner (but your data is lost). • If you have several Freerunners to rework, please add as many Reworks as you want to the shopping cart. This will reduce shipment cost compared to several single shipments. And, we offer a volume discount to encourage group buys (5: 5%; 10: 10%; 50: 15%). Rebates are automatically shown in the shopping cart. Important notes • After payment is done, please follow the Rework Instructions (http://www.handheld-linux.com/images/Instructions.pdf ) • Please note that we can handle this service only for customers in the EU harmonized market because temporary import/export is too complicated if we want to avoid that you (or we) have to pay again the import tax for your original Freerunner. • This is not a Bass-Fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix How to test if my devices works or needs rework • obtain a command line (e.g. ssh from outside) • open /usr/bin/mickeyterm • type these commands (one after the other) AT+CFUN? AT+CFUN="1" --- only if CFUN? does not report 1 AT+CPIN="insert your pin" AT%SLEEP=4 AT%CSQ=1 AT+CREG=2 AT+COPS=0,0 • wait some minutes. If you see +CREG: 0 and/or %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 your device is "recamping". here a good device: +CREG: 2 +CREG: 1,"033F","5BC4" %CSQ: 13, 99, 1 %CSQ: 7, 99, 0 %CSQ: 10, 99, 1 +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 and here a bad device: +CREG: 2 +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 +CREG: 0 %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 +CREG: 0 %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 +CREG: 1,"033F","2992" %CSQ: 17, 99, 1 +CREG: 0 Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbH&Co. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
