Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On 11/23/06 4:54 AM, "Ben F-W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
When I get a minute, I'll collate the ideas so far and try to categorise
them - anyone else been organised enough to do this yet?
This would be awesome. Please forward them to me and I'll organize them on
o
On Fri, 2006-11-24 at 00:01 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
> On 11/23/06 7:16 AM, "Michael Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>> For example - I'm not hearing much about middleware in the OpenMoko API
> >>> - how different applications can collaborate, create metadata (e.g. for
> >>> usage-pred
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 23:36 +, Ben F-W wrote:
> Richard Franks wrote:
> > the main competitive
> > differentiation is that you will be able to find software for the phone
> > to do just about anything. That is, instead of focusing on a particular
> > 'killer app', make the 'killer app' the fac
On 11/23/06 7:15 AM, "Michael Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We already have an internal Wiki that
> we planned to open up for everyone
> once we launch the device. Since all
> of you are having so many great ideas
> right now, it would be a shame to wait
> until then.
>
> It would make much
On 11/23/06 7:16 AM, "Michael Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> For example - I'm not hearing much about middleware in the OpenMoko API
>>> - how different applications can collaborate, create metadata (e.g. for
>>> usage-prediction), and share resources or data - I suspect (although I'd
>>> l
On 11/23/06 5:39 AM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Okay, I'm still missing something. What is there in the GPL that would
>> force the rival company to benefit FIC in any way?
>
> They can't created a closed platform as you suggested without getting sued.
> Unless FIC
> chooses a suck
On 11/23/06 4:54 AM, "Ben F-W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sean, any chance of a wiki going up yet, so we can collate all the
> application ideas so far? I know you haven't got much to do at the moment...
We've got a Wiki internally that will be made public when we launch this
product.
> It w
Salve Ben!
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Ben F-W wrote:
> Robert Michel wrote:
> >But when we concentrate on the core functions, to make them very
> >usable - and add some new/fresh ideas like
> > 8 ways to answer a phone (now, mailbox "sorry I'm busy call me in 15
> > minutes again)
> >then will become
Stefan Schmidt wrote:
Ah, now I understand what you mean!
Nice. (/me makes another dash on his
explain-people-the-open-source-way-of-thinking list). ;)
To be fair, we're now some way from your original comment. We've gone
from "rival companies copying GPL'd programs is exactly what FIC
Richard Franks wrote:
the main competitive
differentiation is that you will be able to find software for the phone
to do just about anything. That is, instead of focusing on a particular
'killer app', make the 'killer app' the fact that you are not being
restricted by or charged for features or
>> For example - I'm not hearing much about middleware in the OpenMoko API
>> - how different applications can collaborate, create metadata (e.g. for
>> usage-prediction), and share resources or data - I suspect (although I'd
>> love to be wrong) that there isn't much support for such things.
> Co
> Redvers Davies (openmoko) wrote:
>> Call screening.
>>
>> When someone calls you and they go to answering machine you can listen
>> and pick up if you choose.
> Interesting idea, Redvers! There seem to be several good possibilities
> focussing around the answering machine services: the ability to
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Richard Franks schreef:
> For example - I'm not hearing much about middleware in the OpenMoko API
> - how different applications can collaborate, create metadata (e.g. for
> usage-prediction), and share resources or data - I suspect (although I'd
> lo
> Sean, any chance of a wiki going up yet, so we can collate all the
> application ideas so far? I know you haven't got much to do at the moment...
I was very impressed with the ease and speed of setting up MediaWiki.
I'd be interested in joining a development effort before seeing the
OpenMoko
Hi guys, please remember to change the topic
when the thread drifts off into something
slightly or completely different ;)
> Well there's the benq Blackbox concept out there which is essentially a phone
> that has a touchscreen all over that does show context sensitive buttons.
> However, I'm not
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 21:34 +, Ben F-W wrote:
> However, if what you say is true, there would be a major effort required
> by the rival in converting the app over to their handset (if it runs
> Qtopia). That doesn't mean that they couldn't do it, but it's a lot harder.
> And you should not fo
Hello.
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 21:34, Ben F-W wrote:
> Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> >
> >Porting the apps from OpenMoko over to Qtopia is a real pita. No new
> >kernel features, X instead of framebuffer, gtk instead of qt. Writing
> >it from scratch seems easier for me.
> >
> Ah, now I understand wha
On Wednesday 22 November 2006 22:34, Ben F-W wrote:
> Taking account of this, I wonder if it would be possible/useful to be
> able to 'skin' the user interface? Not just in a visual way, but so that
> people could switch their phone from operating like a Nokia to operating
> like a Motorola to a So
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Ben F-W schreef:
> Koen Kooi wrote:
>> Ben F-W schreef:
>>
>>> Could you explain this? How would it benefit FIC for a rival
>>> manufacturer to take a program developed for the OpenMoko platform and
>>> adjust it to work on their own, closed, Linux i
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On 11/22/06 1:21 AM, "Ben F-W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I hope you don't mind my speculating in the meantime?
Not at all. I really like the fact that we are having (somewhat at least)
non-technical discussion, too. This is really exciting for me.
I'm pleased
Robert Michel wrote:
But when we concentrate on the core functions, to make them very
usable - and add some new/fresh ideas like
8 ways to answer a phone (now, mailbox "sorry I'm busy call me in 15
minutes again)
then will become the OpenMoko plattform interesting for the mass market
and of
Koen Kooi wrote:
Ben F-W schreef:
Could you explain this? How would it benefit FIC for a rival
manufacturer to take a program developed for the OpenMoko platform and
adjust it to work on their own, closed, Linux implementation on their
phones?
That's where the GPL and Harald's lawyers c
Stefan Schmidt wrote:
On Tue, 2006-11-21 at 17:12, Ben F-W wrote:
Stefan Schmidt wrote:
Nothing. It's exactly what FIC want.
Could you explain this? How would it benefit FIC for a rival
manufacturer to take a program developed for the OpenMoko platform and
adjust it to work on
Redvers Davies (openmoko) wrote:
Call screening.
When someone calls you and they go to answering machine you can listen
and pick up if you choose.
Interesting idea, Redvers! There seem to be several good possibilities
focussing around the answering machine services: the ability to select
betwe
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 08:58 +0100, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
> I see more and more people using it as phone. Personally I find the design
> ridiculous (big, crufty software) and never quite understood the use of push
> email anyway...
Push email is important when you are relying on email for timely
On 11/22/06 4:11 AM, "Stefan Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Another point you forgot here is that FIC have with OpenMoko a
>>> platform for new devices with low engineering cost. Some new
>>> hardware driver, a little bit GUI polish and that's it. No need to
>>> complete redesign a phone
On 11/22/06 1:21 AM, "Ben F-W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
>> Please understand that market questions are not something I can freely talk
>> about at this point. We're just beginning a really long term plan. I
>> wouldn't want to show our cards, too early ;-)
>>
> That's
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 18:11, Ben F-W wrote:
> Interesting, Gabriel: I hadn't thought of that. In the same way,
> Blackberry started off as an email device, and in most people's minds
> that's all it is.
I see more and more people using it as phone. Personally I find the design
ridiculous
Salve Ben!
just as a remark - I'm just a student, loving the OpenMoko/Neo1973
project...
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Ben F-W wrote:
> I agree that it's likely to become very popular with a limited market:
> the developers. What I was trying to decide in my email was whether that
> would be enough to g
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