One of the dumbest tax we have here France is about "multimedia hard
drives", defined as "an external hard drive (with usb) with a video output
connecting to a tv without the use of a computer".
There is a tax on these devices.
But no (or less) tax on raw HDDs
And no tax on empty hdd racks with vid
Ok, add Spain to the list of countries in which this tax exists.
So far we have this tax in CD, DVD, Hard Drives, USB memories, MP3 and MP4
players, MP3 playing mobiles, photocopiers, scanners, printers, memory
cards...
And they even want to extent this to "everything that can be used to copy
aud
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:00:58 -0500, Colan Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I definitely don't think FIC (or now Openmoko) should include the cost
> (if there is one) of the licence to play MP3s. I don't want to pay
> that, and I don't think anyone else should either. I'm happy with just
>
On Friday 25 January 2008 16:14:17 Stefano Cavallari wrote:
> On Friday 25 January 2008 16:00:58 Colan Schwartz wrote:
> > I definitely don't think FIC (or now Openmoko) should include the cost
> > (if there is one) of the licence to play MP3s. I don't want to pay
> > that, and I don't think anyon
On Friday 25 January 2008 16:00:58 Colan Schwartz wrote:
> I definitely don't think FIC (or now Openmoko) should include the cost
> (if there is one) of the licence to play MP3s. I don't want to pay
> that, and I don't think anyone else should either. I'm happy with just
> Ogg and FLAC files. M
And I really like that speeding ticket analogy. This tax that assumes
guilt is insane. I don't understand how modern democratic justice
systems can tolerate it.
Well, modern democratic justice is money, but that's another war.
;-)
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On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 12:57:05PM +0100, Stefano Cavallari wrote:
> I'd like FIC to sell mp3 software including in the cost the license to play
> mp3, along adding a notice (for the countries which need it) that the phone
> isn't licensed to play music and that if needed the support must be boug
On Friday 25 January 2008 01:00:06 Fabian Olesen wrote:
> this will not work in denmark, because the phone will be deemed "capable"
> of doing it.
Why?
The phone itself isn't capable to play anything until you add the software. It
has a stereo audio circuitry, but it could be used just to listen a
> No direspect or anything but that's probably the dumbest tax I've ever heard
> of.
Don't worry, French geeks are pissed off as well
> Yeah, almost every tax talked about in this thread exists in France. But how
> do we avoid the Neo to be taxable ?
>> As said, if you don't sell the phone with
Le vendredi 25 janvier 2008 à 10:37 +0100, Steven Le Roux a écrit :
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:16:37 +0100, Etienne Labaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Selon Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> > No direspect or anything but that's probably the dumbest tax I've ever
> >> > heard of.
> >
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:16:37 +0100, Etienne Labaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Selon Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> > No direspect or anything but that's probably the dumbest tax I've ever
>> > heard of.
>> >
>> Probably France is the dumbest country right now about taxes and other
> s
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:00:26 +0100, "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano" <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Schmidt András ha scritto:
>> In Hungary there is tax on every _empty_ Compact Disc and DVD. The
>> concept is that you will store warez mp3 on them. So when I archive my
>> personal photos or software p
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:43:10 -0700, Richard Reichenbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> No direspect or anything but that's probably the dumbest tax I've ever
> heard of.
>
Probably France is the dumbest country right now about taxes and other stupid
stuff...
This is an other debate )
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Stev
Schmidt András ha scritto:
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
No direspect or anything but that's probably the dumbest tax I've
ever heard of.
In Hungary there is tax on every _empty_ Compact Disc and DVD. The
concept is that you will store warez mp3 on them. So when I archive my
personal photos o
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
No direspect or anything but that's probably the dumbest tax I've ever
heard of.
In Hungary there is tax on every _empty_ Compact Disc and DVD. The
concept is that you will store warez mp3 on them. So when I archive my
personal photos or software projects I pay ta
The speedometer on my Volkswagen says my 10-year old Passat is "capable"
of driving 160mph, but doesn't mean I should have to pay a speeding
ticket as though I do.
I concur, these tax laws are silly business. I was glad to hear that
Canada shut down the DRM tax that some group was trying to ge
this will not work in denmark, because the phone will be deemed "capable" of
doing it.
On Jan 25, 2008 12:51 AM, Tim Erwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features :
> >
> > - At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256)
> > - at least one t
well, in denmark we pay a license to be able to watch the national tv, and
listen to national radio stations, but they did decide that it now had to be
a media license, because it was possible to listen to them online, and see
different programmes online, so now if you have a computer, but no tv, o
> France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features :
>
> - At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256)
> - at least one touch/key dedicated to audio playing (what about a touchscreen
> ?)
> - mp3 or video playing
Can this be worked around by not shipping the neo with mp3 or vid
No direspect or anything but that's probably the dumbest tax I've ever
heard of.
On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:19:46 +0100, "Alexey Feldgendler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:07:23 +0100, Steven Le Roux <[EM
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On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:19:46 +0100, "Alexey Feldgendler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:07:23 +0100, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
France is about to taxe smartphone
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:19:46 +0100, "Alexey Feldgendler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:07:23 +0100, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features :
>>
>> - At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256)
>> -
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:07:23 +0100, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features :
- At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256)
- at least one touch/key dedicated to audio playing (what about a
touchscreen ?)
- mp3 or video p
Hi all,
According to this
(http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news/41415-iphone-ipod-taxe-commission-dalbis-copie-pri.htm
french speaking)
France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features :
- At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256)
- at least one touch/key dedicated to audio p
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