RE: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Buttonand LED software spec)

7:41 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Buttonand LED software spec) Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: "The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT LEDs a5 and a6 have the

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Tim Coggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: > > "The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT > LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption". The transistors were replaced with the internal-res

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

gt; > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Green > > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:56 AM > > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > > Sub

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6?

Green | Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:56 AM | To: List for Openmoko community discussion | Subject: Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future | Button and LED software spec) | | | Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | |> | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Softw

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: | | "The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT | LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption". Oh well, problem gone then :-) -

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

ge detailing hw fix? > > Matt > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Green > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:56 AM > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > Subject: Re: Freerunner will be

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | How complicated would surgery to fix this be? Is it reasonable to | create a wiki page detailing hw fix? Well, both transistors are accessible without popping a can, but a) they are tiny and fiddly, and

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

Matt, On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Crane, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How complicated would surgery to fix this be? Is it reasonable to > create a wiki page detailing hw fix? ISTR that this transistor that needs to be added will be added to the A5 version of the hardware. I thin

RE: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

Subject: Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? |> Yes, they're all controlled from

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? |> Yes, they're all controlled from the CPU and default to being off. | Does this mean that they won't draw any power when they're turned off? Th

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

Does this mean that they won't draw any power when they're turned off? 2008/4/29 Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? > > Yes, they're all control

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? Yes, they're all controlled from the CPU and default to being off. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Usin

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? Sebastian Gerald A wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:45 AM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: So why shipping semi-bugged hardware if there's a fixed version ready? Any software or har

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6?

Dear Tim: Why this? Why not selling v6 directly? And... Which are other diffs between v5 and v6? I think that the power usage of every element of the phone is vital. This part could also be fixed on A5. And we don't have mass production A6 PCB yet, the 100 pcs sample A6 factory made some mis

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6?

steve wrote: As I recall. There is an LED under the aux button an LED on the face of the device and an LED under the power button. According to what I've read [1] there are just two leds, but one of these (the one under the power button) has two kind of light (blue/red). [1] http://tinyurl.

RE: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6?

ice and an LED under the power button. So, let me get more details -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shiloh Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:07 AM To: Tim Niemeyer Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Freerunner will be

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future

I agree I want a phone without bugs before one with bugs Marco Trevisan (Treviño) skrev: Bobby Martin wrote: Personally, I want the hardware to be as good as OM knows how to make it, so I'm waiting for v6 before I buy. I don't see any reason to delay the purchase for all the people who want to

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future

Bobby Martin wrote: Personally, I want the hardware to be as good as OM knows how to make it, so I'm waiting for v6 before I buy. I don't see any reason to delay the purchase for all the people who want to buy a v5 now, though. Marco, you would have to wait either way - either everyone waits

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6?

I'll ask Steve to say something about this. He's much more in the loop regarding our manufacturing process than I am. Michael Tim Niemeyer wrote: Hello Michael Shiloh, can you please clear this? * "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [18-04-08 17:45]: I'm re-posting here some mails

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

Andy Green ha scritto: Somebody in the thread at some point said: I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel "Future Button and LED software spec" thread [1] in which there are some infos about Freerunner hardware that I think they should be more visible. Summarizing, they say that

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future

> Andrea Debortoli wrote: > > > I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be > > available some days after... > > > > I will too, but only because I can't wait longer :( > I'm not so happy about this decision, btw... > I really don't understand why there's so much angst

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

Personally I'd be happier with a design that has no known/"already fixed in the next revision" current leaks. I'm seriously considering buying Freerunner to get a truly open Linux -based phone. I don't think I'd have problems with the software, having pretty firm background in programming and Linu

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

On Saturday 19 April 2008, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: > Andrea Debortoli wrote: > > I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be > > available some days after... > > I will too, but only because I can't wait longer :( > I'm not so happy about this decision, btw...

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

Hello Michael Shiloh, can you please clear this? * "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [18-04-08 17:45]: > I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel "Future Button > and LED software spec" thread [1] in which there are some infos about > Freerunner hardware that I think

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008/4/19, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Andrea Debortoli wrote: > > > I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be > > available some days after... > > > > I will too, but only because I can't wait longer :( > I'm not so happy about this decision,

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

Andrea Debortoli wrote: I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be available some days after... I will too, but only because I can't wait longer :( I'm not so happy about this decision, btw... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:45 PM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel "Future Button and > LED software spec" thread [1] in which there are some infos about Freerunner > hardware that I think they should be more visible. > >

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:45 AM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So why shipping semi-bugged hardware if there's a fixed version ready? > Any software or hardware has annoyances or bugs, or missing features. The question is are they show stoppers, or just mere annoyance

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

On 4/18/08, Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It sounds to me as the problem is easy for those of us that knows a > little > > electronics. If I get one that leaks current, I will start solderi

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

On 4/18/08, Ilja O. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Andrea Debortoli > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be > > available some days after... I will, because I do not want to wait any longer, and I

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It sounds to me as the problem is easy for those of us that knows a little > electronics. If I get one that leaks current, I will start soldering! > > > Does anybody know if the fix Werner is talking about, wi

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Andrea Debortoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be > available some days after... I will. I also will learn a "bit of electronics" to fix it. (Since for me it's fun to learn new things... Ant i al

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be available some days after... I think this is a counterproductive way to go on marketingbecause I apprehend that nobody will tell us when GTA02v5 will be sold out and GTA02v6 will be on sale... just my 2 cents 2008/4/18,

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

On 4/18/08, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel "Future Button > | and LED software spec" thread [1] in which there are some infos about >

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel "Future Button | and LED software spec" thread [1] in which there are some infos about | Freerunner hardware that I think they should be more visible.

Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel "Future Button and LED software spec" thread [1] in which there are some infos about Freerunner hardware that I think they should be more visible. Summarizing, they say that the GTA02v6 hardware version fixes an hardware bug that causes th