RE: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Buttonand LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread steve
7:41 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Buttonand LED software spec) Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: "The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT LEDs a5 and a6 have the

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Tim Coggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: > > "The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT > LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption". The transistors were replaced with the internal-res

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Mo Abrahams
gt; > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Green > > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:56 AM > > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > > Sub

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: | | "The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT | LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption". Oh well, problem gone then :-) -

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Tim Coggins
ge detailing hw fix? > > Matt > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Green > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:56 AM > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > Subject: Re: Freerunner will be

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | How complicated would surgery to fix this be? Is it reasonable to | create a wiki page detailing hw fix? Well, both transistors are accessible without popping a can, but a) they are tiny and fiddly, and

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Christ van Willegen
Matt, On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Crane, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How complicated would surgery to fix this be? Is it reasonable to > create a wiki page detailing hw fix? ISTR that this transistor that needs to be added will be added to the A5 version of the hardware. I thin

RE: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Crane, Matthew
Subject: Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? |> Yes, they're all controlled from

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? |> Yes, they're all controlled from the CPU and default to being off. | Does this mean that they won't draw any power when they're turned off? Th

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Tomas Gustavsson
Does this mean that they won't draw any power when they're turned off? 2008/4/29 Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? > > Yes, they're all control

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-28 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? Yes, they're all controlled from the CPU and default to being off. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Usin

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-28 Thread Sebastian Busse
Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? Sebastian Gerald A wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:45 AM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: So why shipping semi-bugged hardware if there's a fixed version ready? Any software or har

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future

2008-04-19 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
I agree I want a phone without bugs before one with bugs Marco Trevisan (Treviño) skrev: Bobby Martin wrote: Personally, I want the hardware to be as good as OM knows how to make it, so I'm waiting for v6 before I buy. I don't see any reason to delay the purchase for all the people who want to

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future

2008-04-19 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Bobby Martin wrote: Personally, I want the hardware to be as good as OM knows how to make it, so I'm waiting for v6 before I buy. I don't see any reason to delay the purchase for all the people who want to buy a v5 now, though. Marco, you would have to wait either way - either everyone waits

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-19 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Andy Green ha scritto: Somebody in the thread at some point said: I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel "Future Button and LED software spec" thread [1] in which there are some infos about Freerunner hardware that I think they should be more visible. Summarizing, they say that

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future

2008-04-19 Thread Bobby Martin
> Andrea Debortoli wrote: > > > I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be > > available some days after... > > > > I will too, but only because I can't wait longer :( > I'm not so happy about this decision, btw... > I really don't understand why there's so much angst

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-19 Thread Janne Junnila
Personally I'd be happier with a design that has no known/"already fixed in the next revision" current leaks. I'm seriously considering buying Freerunner to get a truly open Linux -based phone. I don't think I'd have problems with the software, having pretty firm background in programming and Linu

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-19 Thread Frans Grotepass
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: > Andrea Debortoli wrote: > > I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be > > available some days after... > > I will too, but only because I can't wait longer :( > I'm not so happy about this decision, btw...

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-19 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hello Michael Shiloh, can you please clear this? * "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [18-04-08 17:45]: > I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel "Future Button > and LED software spec" thread [1] in which there are some infos about > Freerunner hardware that I think

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-19 Thread Andrea Debortoli
2008/4/19, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Andrea Debortoli wrote: > > > I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be > > available some days after... > > > > I will too, but only because I can't wait longer :( > I'm not so happy about this decision,

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-19 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Andrea Debortoli wrote: I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be available some days after... I will too, but only because I can't wait longer :( I'm not so happy about this decision, btw... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-19 Thread Marc-Olivier Barre
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:45 PM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel "Future Button and > LED software spec" thread [1] in which there are some infos about Freerunner > hardware that I think they should be more visible. > >

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Gerald A
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:45 AM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So why shipping semi-bugged hardware if there's a fixed version ready? > Any software or hardware has annoyances or bugs, or missing features. The question is are they show stoppers, or just mere annoyance

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/18/08, Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It sounds to me as the problem is easy for those of us that knows a > little > > electronics. If I get one that leaks current, I will start solderi

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/18/08, Ilja O. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Andrea Debortoli > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be > > available some days after... I will, because I do not want to wait any longer, and I

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It sounds to me as the problem is easy for those of us that knows a little > electronics. If I get one that leaks current, I will start soldering! > > > Does anybody know if the fix Werner is talking about, wi

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Ilja O.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Andrea Debortoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be > available some days after... I will. I also will learn a "bit of electronics" to fix it. (Since for me it's fun to learn new things... Ant i al

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Andrea Debortoli
I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be available some days after... I think this is a counterproductive way to go on marketingbecause I apprehend that nobody will tell us when GTA02v5 will be sold out and GTA02v6 will be on sale... just my 2 cents 2008/4/18,

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/18/08, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel "Future Button > | and LED software spec" thread [1] in which there are some infos about >

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel "Future Button | and LED software spec" thread [1] in which there are some infos about | Freerunner hardware that I think they should be more visible.

Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel "Future Button and LED software spec" thread [1] in which there are some infos about Freerunner hardware that I think they should be more visible. Summarizing, they say that the GTA02v6 hardware version fixes an hardware bug that causes th