Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? Yes, they're all controlled from the CPU and default to being off. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment:

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Tomas Gustavsson
Does this mean that they won't draw any power when they're turned off? 2008/4/29 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? Yes, they're all controlled from

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? | Yes, they're all controlled from the CPU and default to being off. | Does this mean that they won't draw any power when they're turned off?

RE: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Crane, Matthew
How complicated would surgery to fix this be? Is it reasonable to create a wiki page detailing hw fix? Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Green Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:56 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | How complicated would surgery to fix this be? Is it reasonable to | create a wiki page detailing hw fix? Well, both transistors are accessible without popping a can, but a) they are tiny and fiddly, and

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Tim Coggins
Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption. Therefore you wouldn't need to dig out your soldering iron. Does anyone know the other differences with power consumption are between

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: | | The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT | LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption. Oh well, problem gone then :-) -

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Mo Abrahams
Yay! That ends the turmoil going on in my mind between my impatience and my crippling desire to have the best of everything! On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 15:41 +0100, Tim Coggins wrote: Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-29 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Tim Coggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve kindly emailed me on this issue and said: The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption. The transistors were replaced with the internal-resistor

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-28 Thread Sebastian Busse
Is it possible to turn off these LEDs via Software? Sebastian Gerald A wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So why shipping semi-bugged hardware if there's a fixed version ready? Any software or hardware

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-19 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Andrea Debortoli wrote: I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be available some days after... I will too, but only because I can't wait longer :( I'm not so happy about this decision, btw... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-19 Thread Andrea Debortoli
2008/4/19, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Andrea Debortoli wrote: I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be available some days after... I will too, but only because I can't wait longer :( I'm not so happy about this decision, btw... It's a

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-19 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hello Michael Shiloh, can you please clear this? * Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [18-04-08 17:45]: I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel Future Button and LED software spec thread [1] in which there are some infos about Freerunner hardware that I think they

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-19 Thread Frans Grotepass
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Andrea Debortoli wrote: I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be available some days after... I will too, but only because I can't wait longer :( I'm not so happy about this decision, btw... I say

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-19 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Andy Green ha scritto: Somebody in the thread at some point said: I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel Future Button and LED software spec thread [1] in which there are some infos about Freerunner hardware that I think they should be more visible. Summarizing, they say that

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel Future Button | and LED software spec thread [1] in which there are some infos about | Freerunner hardware that I think they should be more visible. |

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/18/08, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel Future Button | and LED software spec thread [1] in which there are some infos about |

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Andrea Debortoli
I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be available some days after... I think this is a counterproductive way to go on marketingbecause I apprehend that nobody will tell us when GTA02v5 will be sold out and GTA02v6 will be on sale... just my 2 cents 2008/4/18,

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Ilja O.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Andrea Debortoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be available some days after... I will. I also will learn a bit of electronics to fix it. (Since for me it's fun to learn new things... Ant i also

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds to me as the problem is easy for those of us that knows a little electronics. If I get one that leaks current, I will start soldering! Does anybody know if the fix Werner is talking about, will be

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/18/08, Ilja O. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Andrea Debortoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be available some days after... I will, because I do not want to wait any longer, and I really

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/18/08, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds to me as the problem is easy for those of us that knows a little electronics. If I get one that leaks current, I will start soldering!

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Gerald A
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So why shipping semi-bugged hardware if there's a fixed version ready? Any software or hardware has annoyances or bugs, or missing features. The question is are they show stoppers, or just mere annoyances? If