Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
Do you mean the office is at [1] (lat,lon)=(43.7,3.73); [2] (lat,lon)=(46.8,3.73) or [3] elsewhere. Note that, from my (possibly subjective) point of view, [1] is not eligible as south of France. [2] would be interesting for me. NB, I think I am at 43.594353,1.47967. I wonder if portable computing device with geolocalization devices would not be convenient sometimes to exchange such information? ;-)) Rodolphe Le jeudi 24 janvier 2008 à 02:06 +0100, Steven Le Roux a écrit : On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:54:08 +0100, Rodolphe Ortalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Joseph, as a matter of fact, where exactly in the south of France? (The longitude should be okay for me too, but what about the lattitude? :-) Rodolphe Here it is : http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=46.80035049849701lon=3.7363181789030766zoom=6layers=B000F000F Look at 43.70 for example... Le mardi 22 janvier 2008 à 11:23 +, Joseph Reeves a écrit : Hi Gilles, I work for a UK based company with an office in the south of France. We plan to use the FreeRunner as a business tool are actively looking to become a reseller in the areas that we operate. Hopefully we'll be able to provide you with a phone at some point :) Thanks, Joseph On 22/01/2008, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michael, So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? Thank you Gilles ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
On Jan 24, 2008 9:58 AM, Rodolphe Ortalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if portable computing device with geolocalization devices would not be convenient sometimes to exchange such information? ;-)) Like this? http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0080.html Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
Hi Rodolphe, I'm in Oxford, UK myself, but we have an office in Montpellier. We're looking into the possibility of becoming a value added reseller. Cheers, Joseph On 23/01/2008, Rodolphe Ortalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Joseph, as a matter of fact, where exactly in the south of France? (The longitude should be okay for me too, but what about the lattitude? :-) Rodolphe Le mardi 22 janvier 2008 à 11:23 +, Joseph Reeves a écrit : Hi Gilles, I work for a UK based company with an office in the south of France. We plan to use the FreeRunner as a business tool are actively looking to become a reseller in the areas that we operate. Hopefully we'll be able to provide you with a phone at some point :) Thanks, Joseph On 22/01/2008, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michael, So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? Thank you Gilles ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
2008/1/22, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Gilles, I've asked for the status of this and will let you all know as soon as I find out. Michael Michael, please, verify also how is the status for resellers in Brasil, ok? []s Massa ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
Hello Joseph, as a matter of fact, where exactly in the south of France? (The longitude should be okay for me too, but what about the lattitude? :-) Rodolphe Le mardi 22 janvier 2008 à 11:23 +, Joseph Reeves a écrit : Hi Gilles, I work for a UK based company with an office in the south of France. We plan to use the FreeRunner as a business tool are actively looking to become a reseller in the areas that we operate. Hopefully we'll be able to provide you with a phone at some point :) Thanks, Joseph On 22/01/2008, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michael, So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? Thank you Gilles ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:54:08 +0100, Rodolphe Ortalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Joseph, as a matter of fact, where exactly in the south of France? (The longitude should be okay for me too, but what about the lattitude? :-) Rodolphe Here it is : http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=46.80035049849701lon=3.7363181789030766zoom=6layers=B000F000F Look at 43.70 for example... Le mardi 22 janvier 2008 à 11:23 +, Joseph Reeves a écrit : Hi Gilles, I work for a UK based company with an office in the south of France. We plan to use the FreeRunner as a business tool are actively looking to become a reseller in the areas that we operate. Hopefully we'll be able to provide you with a phone at some point :) Thanks, Joseph On 22/01/2008, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michael, So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? Thank you Gilles ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
Hello Michael, So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? Thank you Gilles ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
Gilles Casse ha scritto: Hello Michael, So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? Some time ago someone told the possibility to open a German base to phisically send the phone to the european people, how is the status of this thing too? Thank you! Pietro ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
Hi Gilles, I work for a UK based company with an office in the south of France. We plan to use the FreeRunner as a business tool are actively looking to become a reseller in the areas that we operate. Hopefully we'll be able to provide you with a phone at some point :) Thanks, Joseph On 22/01/2008, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michael, So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? Thank you Gilles ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano schrieb: Gilles Casse ha scritto: Hello Michael, So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? Some time ago someone told the possibility to open a German base to phisically send the phone to the european people, how is the status of this thing too? We are in contact with the OpenMoko team to do this for Germany too. If there is anythin decided I am sure it will become visible here ;) Thank you! Pietro Cheers nils faerber -- kernel concepts GbRTel: +49-271-771091-12 Sieghuetter Hauptweg 48Fax: +49-271-771091-19 D-57072 Siegen Mob: +49-176-21024535 -- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
So how much will FreeRunner cost for end user approximately? As I understand, resellers will buy FreeRunners for $450 and sell them for about double price? And how about delivery cost? 2008/1/22, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Gilles, I work for a UK based company with an office in the south of France. We plan to use the FreeRunner as a business tool are actively looking to become a reseller in the areas that we operate. Hopefully we'll be able to provide you with a phone at some point :) Thanks, Joseph On 22/01/2008, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michael, So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? Thank you Gilles ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 preorder please?
On 1/22/08, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Murphy wrote: I would like to propose asking the openmoko.com http://openmoko.com to add a preorder form for stable developer hardware platform. I'm researching this within the company. I don't have an answer yet, but I would agree with Tim, that it is unlikely that we will be able to set up a pre-order system. It's not just an issue of the CC provider, but rather with laws that prevent charging a credit card until the item purchased has shipped. As a former employed at the Danish Consumer Agency I can confirm this is the law in Denmark, too. Would it be hard just to postpone the charging of the creditcard until the order has shipped? (All Danish web shops do this. If an item is temporarily out of stock your credit card will not be charged until the item is in stock and shipped to you). The good news is that we intend to build many more than before, so that pre-order won't be necessary. I have done 5-10 talks on OpenMoko with more coming. After each talk most of the audience is ready to buy (guesstimate in total: 500 handsets). I will not be surprised if FIC yet again underestimates how many handsets should be build in the first run. The pre-order could at least give an idea of that (plus I would have a pre-order URL to point to in my presentation). /Ole ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 preorder please?
On Jan 22, 2008 2:24 PM, Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/22/08, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have done 5-10 talks on OpenMoko with more coming. After each talk most of the audience is ready to buy (guesstimate in total: 500 handsets). I will not be surprised if FIC yet again underestimates how many handsets should be build in the first run. The pre-order could at least give an idea of that (plus I would have a pre-order URL to point to in my presentation). At Fosdem (the Free and Open Software Developers European Meeting) there will be about 1500 people that are enthousiastic about open hardware and open software. I'd guess that if you'd be there with 300-500 handsets, most would be gone (sold) at the end of the weekend. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
Am 22.01.2008 um 11:19 schrieb Gilles Casse: So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? Since we have the harmonized EU market, you can order at any reseller in Europe and they can easily ship to every country in the EU at fairly reasonable cost and no special tax and duties considerations. So you don't necessarily need to have one located in your local country. There are some web-shops with a long tradition and experience in selling the Sharp Zaurus and some will also offer the GTA02. I am associated with one of these shops - The Handheld-Linux Shop http://www.handheld-linux.com - but I can't tell you anything about availablility and pricing of the GTA02. It is OpenMoko's role to make such product announcements. Nikolaus Schaller ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
Gilles Casse wrote: Hello Michael, So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? Hi Gilles, I've asked for the status of this and will let you all know as soon as I find out. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 preorder please?
On Jan 21, 2008 11:34 AM, Breakable [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand GTA00 and GTA01 will not ever be a usable platform due to hardware issues. I'm not sure this is true for the GTA01 -- but it remains to be seen. I would like to propose asking the openmoko.com to add a preorder form for stable developer hardware platform. Something what they would consider a release candidate. This would allow for developers just like me to finally use their credit cards, and reduce the amount of pooling required. This probably won't happen. Some of the official Openmoko people can chime in here, but I think that their current system/CC provider doesn't allow them to accept orders on products that aren't shipping. For the GTA01, they opened the ordering process as soon as they could. I would guess this will be the same for the GTA02. We're all eager to get our hands on one of these, but right now we'll have to be patient. Thanks, Gerald ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GTA02 preorder please?
Hello there, I am just a random developer, not something in open source or linux world trough. As many developers over the world I would love to own a version of Neo1973 phone, with stable hardware and usable software. I understand there are many stumbling blocks to be overcome by the OpenMoko and Neo1973 developments teams to bring those products to the consumer markets, but because I am not a consumer I am willing to take some risks. I understand GTA00 and GTA01 will not ever be a usable platform due to hardware issues. I understand GTA02v4 had some bugs found, and so GTA02v5 design is considered. Also I understand that the OpenMoko platform is currently not a very stable condition, but somewhat usable even from the GUI. I would love to own GTA02vX after its hardware has passed some QA, even if its not guaranteed to find all the hardware bugs. Waiting for a consumer release seems a little long for me. I would like to propose asking the openmoko.com to add a preorder form for stable developer hardware platform. Something what they would consider a release candidate. This would allow for developers just like me to finally use their credit cards, and reduce the amount of pooling required. Regards, Ignas ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: GTA02 preorder please?
I would like to propose asking the openmoko.com to add a preorder form for stable developer hardware platform. Something what they would consider a release candidate. This would allow for developers just like me to finally use their credit cards, and reduce the amount of pooling required. This probably won't happen. Some of the official Openmoko people can chime in here, but I think that their current system/CC provider doesn't allow them to accept orders on products that aren't shipping. Is it possible, then, to have a preorder list that would guarantee getting the neo in the first shipment, with payments due when shipping commences? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 preorder please?
This probably won't happen. Some of the official Openmoko people can chime in here, but I think that their current system/CC provider doesn't allow them to accept orders on products that aren't shipping. yeah, lets just have a pre-order list so that we can sign up for it and be absolutely sure that we'll get the news as soon as things are ready for a real order. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 preorder please?
Tim Murphy wrote: I would like to propose asking the openmoko.com http://openmoko.com to add a preorder form for stable developer hardware platform. Something what they would consider a release candidate. This would allow for developers just like me to finally use their credit cards, and reduce the amount of pooling required. This probably won't happen. Some of the official Openmoko people can chime in here, but I think that their current system/CC provider doesn't allow them to accept orders on products that aren't shipping. Is it possible, then, to have a preorder list that would guarantee getting the neo in the first shipment, with payments due when shipping commences? I'm researching this within the company. I don't have an answer yet, but I would agree with Tim, that it is unlikely that we will be able to set up a pre-order system. It's not just an issue of the CC provider, but rather with laws that prevent charging a credit card until the item purchased has shipped. The good news is that we intend to build many more than before, so that pre-order won't be necessary. I'll let you know when I get the facts. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
