Re: [Shr-Devel] Palm Pre 2

2010-11-22 Thread Sylvain Paré
To FSO guys on the pre,
I will try to install the demo image in the next few days.
But I have one question first :
in the step 2. when do we restore back /sbin/init.old ?
Plus, I think this page (installing fso on the pre) really needs a lite
paragraph about howto revert the webos boot. because right now I am not sure
of what to do.
morphis there is no fso2-demo-image-palmpre.ext3 in your repo as said in the
howto.
Thnaks
CU
Sylvain.
ps: I have my "fix" internet connection back ( a bit poor but...) so I am on
irc if needed.


2010/11/22 Sylvain Paré 

> Hi
>
>
>> So now that you had time to play with it, I'd like to know if it cas
>> easily replace an N900 ?
>>
>
>
> Firstly I don't own an N900.
>
>  In particular:
>> - is there a merged addressbook (with phone + gtalk + facebook + skype +
>> etc.) ?
>>
>
> yep  webos merge all account setted for :
> Contacts (tried with gmail adresse)
> Calendar (tried with gmail adresse)
> Todo list (if there are other providers for this knid of service...? don't
> know)
> Note  ( ")
> Phone (? did not tried)
> Messaging (it merges sms/mms/gtalk and other IM)
>
>  - what's the IM/phone backend ?
>>
>
> don't know. or don't understand the question so here is a list of proposed
> type of account to set:
> AIM
> mail account
> facebook
> google
> linkedin
> microsoft exchange
> photobucket
> yahoo!
> youtube
> search for other (app catalog)
>
>
>>  - how many good Free apps are there in the app store ?
>>
>
> not that much.. It is not open source mentality here. it is busness as
> android and appstore. so if you do like me (ie restricting to free/floss)
> then
> there is not lot of apps.
> I will see how to build existing floss app for it.
>
>  - and .. is there a shell (i.e. how open is it) ?
>>
>
> You can enable a dev mod that permit to novacom( a bit like an ssh
> connection but by usb and without encryption and network interface) which
> you can use to
> install openssh or dropbears and then enable usbnet mode (like with the
> Freerunner)
> and install preware( a communotary app catalog ) in which you can find( and
> install ) terminal emulators( don't know if it is the good term) but
> those I have tried did not work here with the pre 2 . I think they need to
> be updated.
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
> my pleasure.
>
> Xav
>>
>
> Sylvain (aka GarthPS)
>
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Re: [Shr-Devel] Palm Pre 2

2010-11-22 Thread Sylvain Paré
Hi


> So now that you had time to play with it, I'd like to know if it cas easily
> replace an N900 ?
>


Firstly I don't own an N900.

 In particular:
> - is there a merged addressbook (with phone + gtalk + facebook + skype +
> etc.) ?
>

yep  webos merge all account setted for :
Contacts (tried with gmail adresse)
Calendar (tried with gmail adresse)
Todo list (if there are other providers for this knid of service...? don't
know)
Note  ( ")
Phone (? did not tried)
Messaging (it merges sms/mms/gtalk and other IM)

 - what's the IM/phone backend ?
>

don't know. or don't understand the question so here is a list of proposed
type of account to set:
AIM
mail account
facebook
google
linkedin
microsoft exchange
photobucket
yahoo!
youtube
search for other (app catalog)


>  - how many good Free apps are there in the app store ?
>

not that much.. It is not open source mentality here. it is busness as
android and appstore. so if you do like me (ie restricting to free/floss)
then
there is not lot of apps.
I will see how to build existing floss app for it.

 - and .. is there a shell (i.e. how open is it) ?
>

You can enable a dev mod that permit to novacom( a bit like an ssh
connection but by usb and without encryption and network interface) which
you can use to
install openssh or dropbears and then enable usbnet mode (like with the
Freerunner)
and install preware( a communotary app catalog ) in which you can find( and
install ) terminal emulators( don't know if it is the good term) but
those I have tried did not work here with the pre 2 . I think they need to
be updated.

>
> Thanks,
>
>
my pleasure.

Xav
>

Sylvain (aka GarthPS)
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Re: [Shr-Devel] Palm Pre 2

2010-11-22 Thread Xavier Bestel
Hi,

On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 11:16 +0100, Sylvain Paré wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> So I have it! 


So now that you had time to play with it, I'd like to know if it cas
easily replace an N900 ?
In particular:
- is there a merged addressbook (with phone + gtalk + facebook + skype +
etc.) ?
- what's the IM/phone backend ?
- how many good Free apps are there in the app store ?
- and .. is there a shell (i.e. how open is it) ?

Thanks,

Xav
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Re: [Shr-Devel] Palm Pre 2

2010-11-11 Thread Sylvain Paré
Hi!

So I have it!
And I know how to log as root in it (I had to compile novacom-util from
webinternal because the .deb package of developer.palm.com does not include
the new usb id of the pre2 so "unable tofind device")
So if you guys from FSO/SHR want me to list the hardware of the Pre2, or
some thing else, let me know!
I will try the LVM step when the page will have a little paragraph on howto
revert the procedure :)
( I want to be sure of what I do)
because as I understand it there is a change of init scrip ( with
miniboot.sh ) but  I see never  the original one moved back.
Thanks!

CU

Sylvain (aka GarthPS)



2010/11/7 Frederik Sdun 

> Am Samstag, den 06.11.2010, 19:44 +0100 schrieb Sylvain Paré:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I have just ordered not one but two palm pre 2 !! Yeah :p
> > No in fact the second one is for my darling... :)
> > she had had enough of her Sony Ericsson J132 (no way! :) )
> >
> > So from the middle of next week I will be able to do any tests you
> > want to find out
> > what is needed to port FSO on the palm pre 2! and of course to test
> > it!
> >
> > I am a little impatient.. :p
> >
> > BR
> >
> > Sylvain (aka GarthPS)
> >
> >
> > 2010/11/3 Frederik Sdun 
> > Am Mittwoch, den 03.11.2010, 13:12 +0100 schrieb Sylvain Paré:
> >
> > > I take the opportunity to ask about the status of FSO on the
> > Palm Pre.
> > > this page date a bit
> > >
> > http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Palm_Pre:_Jan_2010_-_
> > %3F
> > > tahnks
> > > BR
> > > Sylvain (aka GarthPS)
> > >
> > >
> > > 2010/11/3 Simon Busch 
> > > On 02.11.2010 14:23, Sylvain Paré wrote:
> > > > The new Palm PRE 2 is out in France
> > > > http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre2/
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.sfr.fr/mobile/telephone-portable/palm-pre-2?vue=000agv&sfrcpid=t1_mob_model_goog&s_kwcid=TC|8951|palm%20pre%202||S||6139520240<http://www.sfr.fr/mobile/telephone-portable/palm-pre-2?vue=000agv&sfrcpid=t1_mob_model_goog&s_kwcid=TC%7C8951%7Cpalm%20pre%202%7C%7CS%7C%7C6139520240>
> > > >
> > > > Does anyway knows something about this new
> > hardware?
> > > > Very different from its little brother? (palme
> > pre)
> > > > Is their a chance to see FSO/SHR ported to this
> > device ? (if
> > > it is as far
> > > > open as the first palm pre or even more open)
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know any details about the Pre 2. But it
> > looks like
> > > they changed
> > > only some stuff of the Pre and release it as Pre 2.
> > I think
> > > the most
> > > critical part of the Pre 2 is again the modem. If
> > they use the
> > > same one
> > > as in the Pre we should be able to port FSO/SHR very
> > fast.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > morphis
> > >
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> > Moin,
> >
> > I'm just trying to extract the config from the new webosdoctor
> > to figure
> > out what's different. But it looks like  the Pre 2 is the same
> > as the
> > Pre except it uses an omap3460 and an library indicates that
> > there's a
> > geomagnatic module in it: http://bit.ly/lsm303dlh
> > The statuspage might need some updates, but you can search for
> > screenshot on http://scap.linuxtogo.org. Boardname: Sirloin
> > OMAP3430
> > board.
> > Here's the latest on

Re: Palm Pre 2

2010-11-06 Thread Sylvain Paré
Hi guys,

I have just ordered not one but two palm pre 2 !! Yeah :p
No in fact the second one is for my darling... :)
she had had enough of her Sony Ericsson
J132<http://www.google.com/images?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=SONY+ERICSSON+J132&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1440&bih=710>(no
way! :) )

So from the middle of next week I will be able to do any tests you want to
find out
what is needed to port FSO on the palm pre 2! and of course to test it!

I am a little impatient.. :p

BR

Sylvain (aka GarthPS)


2010/11/3 Frederik Sdun 

> Am Mittwoch, den 03.11.2010, 13:12 +0100 schrieb Sylvain Paré:
> > I take the opportunity to ask about the status of FSO on the Palm Pre.
> > this page date a bit
> > http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Palm_Pre:_Jan_2010_-_%3F
> > tahnks
> > BR
> > Sylvain (aka GarthPS)
> >
> >
> > 2010/11/3 Simon Busch 
> > On 02.11.2010 14:23, Sylvain Paré wrote:
> > > The new Palm PRE 2 is out in France
> >     > http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre2/
> > >
> >
> http://www.sfr.fr/mobile/telephone-portable/palm-pre-2?vue=000agv&sfrcpid=t1_mob_model_goog&s_kwcid=TC|8951|palm%20pre%202||S||6139520240<http://www.sfr.fr/mobile/telephone-portable/palm-pre-2?vue=000agv&sfrcpid=t1_mob_model_goog&s_kwcid=TC%7C8951%7Cpalm%20pre%202%7C%7CS%7C%7C6139520240>
> > >
> > > Does anyway knows something about this new hardware?
> > > Very different from its little brother? (palme pre)
> > > Is their a chance to see FSO/SHR ported to this device ? (if
> > it is as far
> > > open as the first palm pre or even more open)
> >
> >
> > I don't know any details about the Pre 2. But it looks like
> > they changed
> > only some stuff of the Pre and release it as Pre 2. I think
> > the most
> > critical part of the Pre 2 is again the modem. If they use the
> > same one
> > as in the Pre we should be able to port FSO/SHR very fast.
> >
> > regards,
> > morphis
> >
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> Moin,
>
> I'm just trying to extract the config from the new webosdoctor to figure
> out what's different. But it looks like  the Pre 2 is the same as the
> Pre except it uses an omap3460 and an library indicates that there's a
> geomagnatic module in it: http://bit.ly/lsm303dlh
> The statuspage might need some updates, but you can search for
> screenshot on http://scap.linuxtogo.org. Boardname: Sirloin OMAP3430
> board.
> Here's the latest one:
> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/efba002db1516f2aae747944e7d336c4.png
>
> Regards, Frederik
>
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Re: Palm Pre 2

2010-11-03 Thread Frederik Sdun
Am Mittwoch, den 03.11.2010, 13:12 +0100 schrieb Sylvain Paré:
> I take the opportunity to ask about the status of FSO on the Palm Pre.
> this page date a bit
> http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Palm_Pre:_Jan_2010_-_%3F
> tahnks
> BR
> Sylvain (aka GarthPS)
> 
> 
> 2010/11/3 Simon Busch 
> On 02.11.2010 14:23, Sylvain Paré wrote:
> > The new Palm PRE 2 is out in France
> > http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre2/
> >
> 
> http://www.sfr.fr/mobile/telephone-portable/palm-pre-2?vue=000agv&sfrcpid=t1_mob_model_goog&s_kwcid=TC|8951|palm%20pre%202||S||6139520240
> >
> > Does anyway knows something about this new hardware?
> > Very different from its little brother? (palme pre)
> > Is their a chance to see FSO/SHR ported to this device ? (if
> it is as far
> > open as the first palm pre or even more open)
> 
> 
> I don't know any details about the Pre 2. But it looks like
> they changed
> only some stuff of the Pre and release it as Pre 2. I think
> the most
> critical part of the Pre 2 is again the modem. If they use the
> same one
> as in the Pre we should be able to port FSO/SHR very fast.
> 
> regards,
> morphis
> 
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Moin,

I'm just trying to extract the config from the new webosdoctor to figure
out what's different. But it looks like  the Pre 2 is the same as the
Pre except it uses an omap3460 and an library indicates that there's a
geomagnatic module in it: http://bit.ly/lsm303dlh 
The statuspage might need some updates, but you can search for
screenshot on http://scap.linuxtogo.org. Boardname: Sirloin OMAP3430
board. 
Here's the latest one:
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/efba002db1516f2aae747944e7d336c4.png

Regards, Frederik


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Re: Palm Pre 2

2010-11-03 Thread Sylvain Paré
I take the opportunity to ask about the status of FSO on the Palm Pre.
this page date a bit
http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Palm_Pre:_Jan_2010_-_%3F
tahnks
BR
Sylvain (aka GarthPS)


2010/11/3 Simon Busch 

> On 02.11.2010 14:23, Sylvain Paré wrote:
> > The new Palm PRE 2 is out in France
> > http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre2/
> >
> http://www.sfr.fr/mobile/telephone-portable/palm-pre-2?vue=000agv&sfrcpid=t1_mob_model_goog&s_kwcid=TC|8951|palm%20pre%202||S||6139520240<http://www.sfr.fr/mobile/telephone-portable/palm-pre-2?vue=000agv&sfrcpid=t1_mob_model_goog&s_kwcid=TC%7C8951%7Cpalm%20pre%202%7C%7CS%7C%7C6139520240>
> >
> > Does anyway knows something about this new hardware?
> > Very different from its little brother? (palme pre)
> > Is their a chance to see FSO/SHR ported to this device ? (if it is as far
> > open as the first palm pre or even more open)
>
> I don't know any details about the Pre 2. But it looks like they changed
> only some stuff of the Pre and release it as Pre 2. I think the most
> critical part of the Pre 2 is again the modem. If they use the same one
> as in the Pre we should be able to port FSO/SHR very fast.
>
> regards,
> morphis
>
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Re: Palm Pre 2

2010-11-03 Thread Simon Busch
On 02.11.2010 14:23, Sylvain Paré wrote:
> The new Palm PRE 2 is out in France
> http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre2/
> http://www.sfr.fr/mobile/telephone-portable/palm-pre-2?vue=000agv&sfrcpid=t1_mob_model_goog&s_kwcid=TC|8951|palm%20pre%202||S||6139520240
> 
> Does anyway knows something about this new hardware?
> Very different from its little brother? (palme pre)
> Is their a chance to see FSO/SHR ported to this device ? (if it is as far
> open as the first palm pre or even more open)

I don't know any details about the Pre 2. But it looks like they changed
only some stuff of the Pre and release it as Pre 2. I think the most
critical part of the Pre 2 is again the modem. If they use the same one
as in the Pre we should be able to port FSO/SHR very fast.

regards,
morphis

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Palm Pre 2

2010-11-02 Thread Sylvain Paré
The new Palm PRE 2 is out in France
http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre2/
http://www.sfr.fr/mobile/telephone-portable/palm-pre-2?vue=000agv&sfrcpid=t1_mob_model_goog&s_kwcid=TC|8951|palm%20pre%202||S||6139520240

Does anyway knows something about this new hardware?
Very different from its little brother? (palme pre)
Is their a chance to see FSO/SHR ported to this device ? (if it is as far
open as the first palm pre or even more open)

Thanks for your infos/feedback

Sylvain (aka GarthPS)
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