On Tue, 20 May 2008 11:36:30 -0400 Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:27:25 -0400 Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
2) The ASU software features a qwerty-keyboard. It is switchable between
alphabetics and numerics;
On Tue, 20 May 2008 12:26:55 -0500 Jeremy Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Speaking of needing a sharp nail or the stylus to type easily on the
keypad does that mean there is no support for turning the freerunner on its
side and the keyboard flipping and enlarging, like say the iphone does?
Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions
Date: lun 19 mag 08 11:10:50 -0600
Quoting Travis Tabbal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those apps are the heart of the phone, and I would not want to have
I've just booted it for the first time, can't really say anything
about it yet, but the boot screen is perfect for me as an
Archaeologist :)
Joseph
On 19/05/2008, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha
snapshot of the ASU
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The switch to QT
*requires* the abandoning of C in favour of C++, a language that I
personally find unsuitable for use.
QT is C++, but you can write your code in C and just use the various classes
to get GUI widgets.
Travis Tabbal wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The switch to QT
*requires* the abandoning of C in favour of C++, a language that I
personally find unsuitable for use.
QT is C++, but you can write your code
liwei wrote:
On 一, 2008-05-19 at 16:27 -0700, Mike Montour wrote:
Ian Darwin wrote:
Thanks for posting your review. Perhaps you (or another Freerunner user)
can answer a few more questions:
How good is the audio quality when having a GSM voice conversation with
another person? Can the
2008/5/20 Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Travis Tabbal wrote:
C++ is difficult to link against, so that limits the languages that you can
use for development. For instance, D has a hard time with linking to C++
(or did last I checked). C, on the other hand is far simpler to link to.
Not to single out one or two posters because they might not be the ones
who started this:::
The switch to QT
*requires* the abandoning of C in favour of C++, a language that I
personally find unsuitable for use.
QT is C++, but you can write your code in C and just use the various
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Travis Tabbal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:snip
I can write both good and bad code in most any language.snip
Really? Try writing good code in whitespace [1] or most of [2] :P
Anyway, regarding the app icons: perhaps it's possible to move those that
are used most
I did say most. :) There are a number of programming languages that almost
seem to have been designed to be difficult to write well formed code in. I
try to avoid them, and usually succeed. I won't get into details as that's a
little too far off topic and everyone has their own opinions on such
.
Matt
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Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions
On 一, 2008-05-19 at 16:27 -0700, Mike Montour wrote:
Ian
The app icon idea should be optional, I know I personally have a tendency to
remember locations of icons. If the icon list is updated constantly with
the most accessed programs, then I might inadvertently select one program
thinking another should really be in that location. I think this is more
Speaking of needing a sharp nail or the stylus to type easily on the
keypad does that mean there is no support for turning the freerunner on its
side and the keyboard flipping and enlarging, like say the iphone does?
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Ian Darwin schrieb:
| I'd still very much like to see a way to turn it off, so it works the
same for letters as for numbers. It's annoying 90% of the time because
most of the person or street names I need to enter into Contacts are not
going to be
Speaking of needing a sharp nail or the stylus to type easily on the
keypad does that mean there is no support for turning the freerunner
on its side and the keyboard flipping and enlarging, like say the
iphone does?
The one has nothing to do with the other.
This
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Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions
Speaking of needing a sharp nail or the stylus to type easily on the
keypad does that mean there is no support for turning the freerunner
on its side and the keyboard flipping and enlarging, like say
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 08:05:13PM +0200, Bastian Muck wrote:
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Ian Darwin schrieb:
| I'd still very much like to see a way to turn it off, so it works the
| same for letters as for numbers. It's annoying 90% of the time because
| most of the
I'd still very much like to see a way to turn it off, so it works the same
for letters as for numbers. It's annoying 90% of the time because most of
the person or street names I need to enter into Contacts are not going to be
listed. I promise not to write my next 850-page book on my Neo, so
ASU is literally the April Software Update. Three letter acronyms
give it more geek cred. :)
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Richard Reichenbacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What does ASU stand for anyways? It makes me nervous knowing that the
phones software shares the same initials with my
I thought it was the august update released early!
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ASU
Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Language DOES matter. We use English on this list...
Programming language. :)
Sorry if I wasn't clear on what I meant. I was refering to the generic case - be
it spoken language, programming language, painting, music, ... If you want very
active
On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 12:19 -0700, steve wrote:
I thought it was the august update released early!
Funny... I thought it was the August update released late =P
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On 5/20/08, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Language DOES matter. We use English on this list...
Programming language. :)
Sorry if I wasn't clear on what I meant. I was refering to the generic case
- be
it spoken language, programming
Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
With regards to the second one, things differ from person to
person. For most of its life, the openmoko project has been based on C
and GTK, which I happen to be reasonably versed in. The switch to QT
*requires* the abandoning of C in favour of C++, a
How does one go about getting the new software version as a qemu image?
I am intrigued... and since I have (in the last week or so) started
having doubts about getting a freerunner I would very much like
something to inspire me again. It is not the freerunners fault, by the
way, that I am having
Subject: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions
Date: Mon 19 May 08 10:27:25AM -0400
Quoting Ian Darwin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
... and the main applications from the GTK-based apps
(developed by OpenMoko and OpenedHand) to QTopia (but using X11, of
course).
Thanks for
Hi to all (have been reading along this list for a long time :),
Sure you can use the Freerunner without gsm. It will just be was any PDA
without gsm-modem (well it will be better ;)
Jake
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Mo Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
How does one go about getting the
I would like to know if the original GTK-based libraries and apps have
been left in a decent (useable) state, and if it will be possible to
switch to them in a direct and clean way.
OF COURSE THEY ARE :-) Carsten has made it very clear on this same
list within the last few days that all
Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions
Date: Mon 19 May 08 12:16:30PM -0400
Quoting Ian Darwin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I would like to know if the original GTK-based libraries and apps have
been left in a decent (useable) state, and if it will be possible
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha
snapshot of the ASU software.
I've done Daily Snapshot Reviews since January. I enjoy bug hunting
and communication. Where can I get this image? Does it run
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those apps are the heart of the phone, and I would not want to have
C++/QT versions running on my phone.
I really don't understand the sentiment there. If the app works well and
gets the job done, why does it matter
Ian Darwin wrote:
I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha
snapshot of the ASU software. For those who have been off-list for a
while, or who have not been looking at the Wiki much, the April
Software Update switches the Window Manager from matchbox to
Enlightenment
I second that. Is there a way to test the new software on qemu?
Looking forward to start hacking stuff on my OM...
Ivo
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Mo Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
How does one go about getting the new software version as a qemu image?
I am intrigued... and since I
Travis Tabbal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carlo E. Prelz wrote:
Those apps are the heart of the phone, and I would not want to have
C++/QT versions running on my phone.
I really don't understand the sentiment there. If the app works well and gets
the job
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Travis Tabbal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carlo E. Prelz wrote:
Those apps are the heart of the phone, and I would not want to have
C++/QT versions running on my phone.
I really don't
Ian Darwin wrote:
I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha
snapshot of the ASU software. [...]
Short form: functionally, it works. Among other things, the phone wakes
up reliably on incoming rings (assuming it's booted and suspended, of
course), and GSM voice works
On 一, 2008-05-19 at 16:27 -0700, Mike Montour wrote:
Ian Darwin wrote:
Thanks for posting your review. Perhaps you (or another Freerunner user)
can answer a few more questions:
How good is the audio quality when having a GSM voice conversation with
another person? Can the other caller
On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:27:25 -0400 Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
2) The ASU software features a qwerty-keyboard. It is switchable between
alphabetics and numerics; unfortunately the gesture needed to do this
(a triangle drawn counter-clockwise from lower left) is a bit hard to
it is?
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