http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/92713
Hello Openmokoers!
This is actually the reason that I got to read about the openmoko, I
read an article about mobile phones being bug-able some time ago and
googled for an open linux phone. And I found the openmoko ;)
Just a quick question, what the
Edwin Lock wrote:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/92713
Hello Openmokoers!
This is actually the reason that I got to read about the openmoko, I
read an article about mobile phones being bug-able some time ago and
googled for an open linux phone. And I found the openmoko ;)
Just a quick
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/92713
Sorry cant read deutsch (yet)... =)
You realize the communication is going from your phone to a network to
another phone, right?
Usually the Mafia will put a bug locally in your house, your phone, etc...
The police will bug the network through
Okay, not to put too fine a point on it, but this is possibly the
silliest reason ever for choosing one phone over another. Cell phone
communications are transmitted via radio, and are trivial to eavesdrop
on with the right equipment. If you're actually worried about this
possibility (and I can't
David Lefty Schlesinger wrote:
Okay, not to put too fine a point on it, but this is possibly the
silliest reason ever for choosing one phone over another. Cell phone
communications are transmitted via radio, and are trivial to eavesdrop
on with the right equipment. If you're actually worried
and the phone being able to be remotely turned on without
the users knowledge, to act as a bug.
Would that be some sort of manipulation of private property ?
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David Lefty Schlesinger skrev:
Okay, not to put too fine a point on it, but this is possibly the
silliest reason ever for choosing one phone over another. Cell phone
communications are transmitted via radio, and are trivial to eavesdrop
on with the right equipment.
I think the issue is if the
Just to (hopefully) clarify: I've read, probably from some very unreliable
internet source, about a scheme where police make the carrier uploads an
improved firmware over the air, which turns the phone into a microphone,
even when not calling; it changes the shutdown function into a pretend to
Le dimanche 15 juillet 2007 à 11:35 -0500, Simon a écrit :
and the phone being able to be remotely turned on without
the users knowledge, to act as a bug.
Would that be some sort of manipulation of private property ?
This notion of property of the phone could be manipulated too via
Le dimanche 15 juillet 2007 à 18:46 +0200, Fabien a écrit :
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Finally, you can't do anything against geolocation either: your
carrier needs to know where you are in order to route calls to you, so
state agencies can retrieve that information directly from the
carrier, whatever your phone
On 7/15/07, Rodolphe Ortalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Technically yes.
However, legally, they cannot do this *arbitrarily*.
technically / legally / arbitrarily: technically it's doable, we agree;
arbitrariness can be debatted in courts indeed, if you ever get to a court.
But the main concern
David Lefty Schlesinger wrote:
(And you're using _gmail_? Wow.)
Good one!
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Lars Hallberg wrote:
I think the issue is if the phone can bug *any* conversation You have
when the phone is around, not only phone conversations. That is a
valid concern. And I believe Neo can be safe if we make sure to use
the mixer to turn of the mic/speaker connection to the gsm chip while
On 7/15/07, David Lefty Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm personally quite confident that if some government or other decides
that they need to listen in on my conversations, my having a cellphone
which won't cooperate with them isn't going to slow them down
particularly. I'm also quite
Thanks a lot for all the answers!
My main point was if the state, well, anyone who had connections to
the carriers, could turn the neo into a bug too.. And it seems that it
isn't possible cause of the software mixer being off when the device
is off :)
And david? I use gmail, yes ;) Luckily I can
Edwin Lock wrote:
My main point was if the state, well, anyone who had connections to
the carriers, could turn the neo into a bug too.. And it seems that it
isn't possible cause of the software mixer being off when the device
is off :)
Actually one may want to implement this on the OpenMoko
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