Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-08-05 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/8/5 Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org: Rask, Government will also want some return. I don't see clearly (yet) how a project like ours can give them that (like OLPC and portuguese's Magalhães).   A phone that's more difficult to sneak spyware into than a closed one such as an IPhone or

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-08-05 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/8/6 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de: Great progress, thanks for the update. There's one thing I'm wondering about though... all of these activities seem to surround free hardware. While that's great, I wonder whether there are any plans to support the development of

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-08-05 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/8/6 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com: 2009/8/6 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de: Great progress, thanks for the update. There's one thing I'm wondering about though... all of these activities seem to surround free hardware. While that's great, I wonder

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-16 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/7/13 Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org: David, I would appreciate the translation.  Perhaps you can put those on your web site. Done, http://www.tuxbrain.net/content/la-universidad-de-sao-paulo-se-suma-al-desarrollo-de-openmoko As to the other universities, let's see what model we can

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-16 Thread Warren Baird
Hi Jon, Thanks for all this - like most people here, I think this is fantastic news that gives me some meagre hope for the future of the freerunner. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote: One of the issues here is that the project has not exactly been focused

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-16 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 7/16/09, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I hope you are are right that eventually the software will be in better shape than the hardware. I must admit that in my less optimistic moments, I wonder about that. The progress towards a stable, easily usable distro for the FR

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-16 Thread Warren Baird
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/16/09, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I hope you are are right that eventually the software will be in better shape than the hardware. I must admit that in my less optimistic moments,

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-16 Thread steven mosher
When demonstrating the phone SHR was always my distro of choice.. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/16/09, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I hope you are are right that eventually the software will be in better shape

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-16 Thread tb
Well to me SHR unstable was always by far the most usable and stable distribution out there 2009/7/16 Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/16/09, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-16 Thread Warren Baird
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote: I saw the Linux kernel in 1994, with (approximately) 124,000 people using it, most of whom were hobbyists, students, technical people. maddog - Now you are making me feel old! :-) I think I first installed a 0.99

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-14 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/7/14 Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org Levy, and would like to know if is something that I could do to participate on this new effort opened by you. First I want to say that I do not consider this a new effort, but a continuation of the effort that the Openmoko community started.

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-13 Thread Yorick Moko
this seems to be really good news, good work! On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote: Dear Openmoko Community, In light of the refocusing of Sean's company on consumer items, there has been a perceived vacuum created in the Openmoko community's efforts to

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-13 Thread Giovanni
WOW! Very good! If governments and universities are involved, we can have more power for developing something good. Best regards, Giovanni On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: this seems to be really good news, good work! On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:02

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-13 Thread Michal Brzozowski
I smell GTA03 coming :-) 2009/7/13 Giovanni pino.o...@gmail.com WOW! Very good! If governments and universities are involved, we can have more power for developing something good. Best regards, Giovanni On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: this

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-13 Thread Marc Verwerft
Awesome accomplishment! Thanks so much Jon - this is really fantastic news. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hallmad...@li.org wrote: Dear Openmoko Community, In light of the refocusing of Sean's company on consumer items, there has been a perceived vacuum created in the

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-13 Thread Harry Tsai
Nice to hear good news from maddog, but I am curious how many Freerunner that Koolu will buy from Openmoko? Harry 2009/7/13 Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org Brenda, Brenda Wang wrote: +1 It's really great to hear this. In Taiwan, Tsing Hua university also has a OPENlab. I would

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-13 Thread john
Re: OpenLab 2009/7/13 Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org: Brenda, Brenda Wang wrote: +1 It's really great to hear this. In Taiwan, Tsing Hua university also has a OPENlab. I would like to work with the community to engage various universities, but as I have mentioned before, with limited

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-13 Thread john
2009/7/13 Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org: John, I made some contact with Openmoko regarding joining their Openlab programme a while back now and need to follow that up. We have created an MSc in Network and Mobile Computing which has a module designed to specifically use Openmoko. The MSc

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-13 Thread steven mosher
Thanks maddog for staying on this over the past month or so. I really appreciatethe effort and I know the rest of the community does as well. As you know I'm unwilling to give up on the dream of the Freerunner and the dream of community driven hardware in general. I know Werner and his group, the

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development

2009-07-13 Thread levy.santanna
Dear Mr. Jon, I am a student of a Brazilian Federal Technology Center. I had buy a Freerunner from Koolu around a year ago and since that I am reading and studying on this comunity about how to use better the equipment, and would like to know if is something that I could do to participate on this