RE: I'm sorry , that's my fault (was:GTA03 wish list (was: What US plans are people using?))

2008-04-25 Thread David Samblas Martinez
loats their boat. as it should be. > > So, the Box contains a stylus. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Kevin Dean > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:00 AM > To: List for Openmoko community discussion &g

Re: GTA03 wish list (was: What US plans are people using?)

2008-04-24 Thread David Samblas Martinez
Challenge is not a obligation nor a contract nor even a requirement , but if neo's has been designed without any stylus holder is because the intention is not to need it in day by day (common) use, but there is a lot of good stylus friendly applications out there ready to be used so every is fre

RE: GTA03 wish list (was: What US plans are people using?)

2008-04-24 Thread steve
lus. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Dean Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:00 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: GTA03 wish list (was: What US plans are people using?) On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Stroll

Re: GTA03 wish list (was: What US plans are people using?)

2008-04-24 Thread Steven **
It's not a mass market device until you write the software to make it one. ;-) -Steven On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Keep in mind that Freerunner is designed to be a mass market product. > That's very true that this can be done but making that action

Re: GTA03 wish list (was: What US plans are people using?)

2008-04-24 Thread Kevin Dean
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think the games were ported. I thought they were just a > simply cross-compile to show that they would work on Openmoko. > > I think the intention is that you should be able to do most things > without a stylus. It

Re: GTA03 wish list (was: What US plans are people using?)

2008-04-24 Thread Steven **
I don't think the games were ported. I thought they were just a simply cross-compile to show that they would work on Openmoko. I think the intention is that you should be able to do most things without a stylus. It says essentially that on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications#Overview Tha

Re: GTA03 wish list (was: What US plans are people using?)

2008-04-24 Thread Kevin Dean
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of the objectives of openmoko is to no need to use the stylus > at all ... When devels talk about "mokofy" (port to openmoko) some > aplication one of the chalenges is to use it with out stylus. Either this is NOT

Re: GTA03 wish list (was: What US plans are people using?)

2008-04-24 Thread Stroller
On 22 Apr 2008, at 23:05, ian douglas wrote: Travis Tabbal wrote: Of course, a quad band setup would be preferred Hey OpenMoko team, has anyone started a wish-list for the GTA03 yet? - true quad-band - a place to hide a stylus - anti pooch pouch poaching device One of the objectives of

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-24 Thread Michael Shiloh
I have a further question, perhaps best for someone who knows something about how the cellphone system operates: I notice that with my T-Mobile SIM card, my GTA01 camps on the "home" network, but my AT&T card shows "roaming". Is it possible that in roaming mode, the system keeps scanning and

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-24 Thread ian douglas
Rivera wrote: How do you tell which band the phone is currently connecting to? Someone stated in the last day or so that there's an AT command you can send to the Neo's modem to tell which service. how did you know the Blackjack 2 would only connect to the lower freq? The basis of my assu

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-23 Thread Rivera
ian douglas wrote: Yes, AT&T uses both 850 and either 1800 or 1900 (I forget which at the moment, maybe 1900 and TMobile uses 1800, or vice versa?). In my last apartment, where there were a lot of buildings very close together, lots of concrete, etc., my usual AT&T phone (Blackjack 2) wou

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-23 Thread ian douglas
Yes, AT&T uses both 850 and either 1800 or 1900 (I forget which at the moment, maybe 1900 and TMobile uses 1800, or vice versa?). In my last apartment, where there were a lot of buildings very close together, lots of concrete, etc., my usual AT&T phone (Blackjack 2) would only connect on the l

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-23 Thread Travis Tabbal
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting. I have recently had difficulty hooking up to AT&T. I wonder > if the reason is that they've switched to 850MHz. How did you find this out? > I found some coverage maps on gsmworld.com. I don't know how accur

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-23 Thread Michael Shiloh
ian douglas wrote: Travis Tabbal wrote: This implies that a GTA01bv4 can NOT use 850 mhz. But my Neo1973 works PERFECTLY in the USA, which means either it DOES support 850mhz OR that the LACK of 850mhz is irrelevant. As I understand it, 850 will matter or not depending on where y

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Brandon Kruger
On Tue April 22 2008 9:13:00 pm ian douglas wrote: > Brandon Kruger wrote: > > It may not be allowed in the fine print, but I never had any problems > > tethering my A707 with that plan to my laptop over BT or USB. > > The sales guy I talked to at AT&T back in December said they can catch > this be

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Brandon Kruger wrote: It may not be allowed in the fine print, but I never had any problems tethering my A707 with that plan to my laptop over BT or USB. The sales guy I talked to at AT&T back in December said they can catch this behavior by monitoring your data transfer behavior, and charge y

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Brandon Kruger
On Tue April 22 2008 8:13:02 pm ian douglas wrote: > Brandon Kruger wrote: > > I have the "Media Net Unlimited" package which gives me unlimied data > > usage for $15/month. Just try not to let them know it's for a PDA-ish > > device or they may try to make you get the $60 equivalent for PDAs > >

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Brandon Kruger
On Tue April 22 2008 8:20:42 pm Ben Burdette wrote: > How did you get the plan to begin with? Surely they didn't just give > you a SIM card, did you already have another phone or did you buy a > cheap phone? > > Brandon Kruger wrote: > > I have the "Media Net Unlimited" package which gives me unli

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
If you already have a capable phone, I don't see why they wouldn't just sell you just the SIM card and data/voice plan. Ben Burdette wrote: How did you get the plan to begin with? Surely they didn't just give you a SIM card, did you already have another phone or did you buy a cheap phone?

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Ben Burdette
How did you get the plan to begin with? Surely they didn't just give you a SIM card, did you already have another phone or did you buy a cheap phone? Brandon Kruger wrote: I have the "Media Net Unlimited" package which gives me unlimied data usage for $15/month. Just try not to let them kn

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Brandon Kruger wrote: I have the "Media Net Unlimited" package which gives me unlimied data usage for $15/month. Just try not to let them know it's for a PDA-ish device or they may try to make you get the $60 equivalent for PDAs instead. The $60 equivalent includes "tethering" which lets you

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Brandon Kruger
On Tue April 22 2008 3:52:28 pm Travis Tabbal wrote: > The Wiki didn't really answer what works and how well it works. I'm > wondering what plans people are currently using. All the info I find is > about specific phones, like Blackberry and Sidekick, nothing really > generic. Can we just add, say

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Travis Tabbal wrote: This implies that a GTA01bv4 can NOT use 850 mhz. But my Neo1973 works PERFECTLY in the USA, which means either it DOES support 850mhz OR that the LACK of 850mhz is irrelevant. As I understand it, 850 will matter or not depending on where you live and what provi

GTA03 wish list (was: What US plans are people using?)

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Travis Tabbal wrote: Of course, a quad band setup would be preferred Hey OpenMoko team, has anyone started a wish-list for the GTA03 yet? - true quad-band - a place to hide a stylus - anti pooch pouch poaching device ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Travis Tabbal
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:40 PM, ian douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Travis Tabbal wrote: > > > Has the 850Mhz issue been resolved? > > > > > The Freerunner will be sold in 850/1800/1900 tri-band, and 900/1800/1900 > tri-band models. You'll have to specify which model you want when you order

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Travis Tabbal
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That issues actually confuses the hell out of me. :) > > Per the wiki "Will a modification to my Neo 1973 (GTA01bv4) be > possible? As of Feb 08, it has been confirmed by OpenMoko that this is > not possible" ( > http://wiki.

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Kevin Dean
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Travis Tabbal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the info. T-Mobile seems to have good coverage here. It sounds > like the Total Internet plan is the way to go. I'm looking forward to the > release of Freerunner. I love being able to add/change software on my

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Travis Tabbal wrote: Has the 850Mhz issue been resolved? The Freerunner will be sold in 850/1800/1900 tri-band, and 900/1800/1900 tri-band models. You'll have to specify which model you want when you order. -id ___ Openmoko community mailing lis

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Travis Tabbal
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Clinton Ebadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With T-Mobile you can get a base voice plan and then add either > T-Mobile Internet (unlimited GPRS) or T-Mobile Total Internet > (unlimited GPRS and Hotspot access) for $20 a month. Naturally the > latter is a better dea

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Clinton Ebadi
"Travis Tabbal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The Wiki didn't really answer what works and how well it works. I'm wondering > what plans people are currently using. All the info I find is about specific > phones, like Blackberry and Sidekick, nothing really generic. Can we just add, > say the Side

What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Travis Tabbal
The Wiki didn't really answer what works and how well it works. I'm wondering what plans people are currently using. All the info I find is about specific phones, like Blackberry and Sidekick, nothing really generic. Can we just add, say the Sidekick option from T-Mobile and get data access? The ph