Re: literki update

2010-01-15 Thread Timo Jyrinki
>> And here you can find the source code (thanks to Christof and Christian):
>> http://git.senfdax.de/?p=literki;a=summary

I switched from matchbox-keyboard to literki yesterday evening on
Debian. I wanted just the keyboard, so I patched it to remove
everything else especially as those elements seemed to somehow block
other items I liked to click.

Furthermore, I added ä, ö and € letters and did some other mods. Put
them now quickly at http://users.tkk.fi/~tajyrink/moko/literki_mods/

Thanks for the work, it's quite nice improvement over
matchbox-keyboard at least. Of course there have been other options as
well but I've been too lazy to try others out before this.

-Timo

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Re: literki update

2010-01-14 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2010/1/14 Vladimir Berezenko 

> В Чтв, 14/01/2010 в 17:28 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет:
>
> > I don't think you need to change the code, at least it was designed so
> > that you don't have to. Where am I checking shift and capslock in the
> > code?
>
> keymap.cpp:80
>
> if (first == "shift" && action!="capslock")
>keys[GetFunId("capslock")].push_back(k);
>
>
> Ok, sorry, I forgot about it (it's been a while since I've written that
part).

The capslock mode is special in the sense that it copies all keys from the
shift mode. That's what these 2 lines do. It's so that you don't have to
define every single key in the capslock mode.

The thing that's special about the shift mode is that it returns to normal
mode after a key is pressed. It's impossible to define this purely in the
layout file atm. So your shift_russian mode wouldn't have that property.
This is implemented in the lines 106-108 and 134-137 in keymap.cpp.

So you can change line 107 to sth like if (f == "shift" || f ==
"shift_russian") and it will work. Or just check if the prefix is "shift".

Unfortunately I'm not able to fix this now in the general case (I'll be
travelling for the next few months). If you have an idea for a fix (so you
can define the keep_fun property in the layout file), feel free to release a
new version. I'll be available via email every once in a while if you have
questions, but I might not be reading this list.
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Re: literki update

2010-01-14 Thread Vladimir Berezenko
В Чтв, 14/01/2010 в 17:28 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет: 

> I don't think you need to change the code, at least it was designed so
> that you don't have to. Where am I checking shift and capslock in the
> code? 

keymap.cpp:80

if (first == "shift" && action!="capslock")
keys[GetFunId("capslock")].push_back(k); 

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Re: literki update

2010-01-14 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2010/1/14 Vladimir Berezenko 

> В Чтв, 14/01/2010 в 16:49 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет:
> > You can have as many layouts as you want. Right now there are 4 -
> > normal, shift, capslock, fn. So just add 2 more, like russian,
> > russian_shift or something.
>
> Ok. Might they be added in config or they also should be added in code?
> I've seen that you're checking those "shift" thingies in code and add
> them to "capslock". Is there any need to add also "alt" and "altshift"
> there?
>
>
>
I don't think you need to change the code, at least it was designed so that
you don't have to. Where am I checking shift and capslock in the code?
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Re: literki update

2010-01-14 Thread Vladimir Berezenko
В Чтв, 14/01/2010 в 16:49 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет: 
> You can have as many layouts as you want. Right now there are 4 -
> normal, shift, capslock, fn. So just add 2 more, like russian,
> russian_shift or something.

Ok. Might they be added in config or they also should be added in code?
I've seen that you're checking those "shift" thingies in code and add
them to "capslock". Is there any need to add also "alt" and "altshift"
there?



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Re: literki update

2010-01-14 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2010/1/14 Vladimir Berezenko 

> В Сбт, 26/12/2009 в 08:44 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет:
>
> >
> > I'm stupid, of course you can use 2 layouts. Just use a function key,
> > like fn to switch between them.
> >
> > Example:
> >
> > (russian letter)
> > key a b c d
> > russian sth sth
> >
> >
> > (english letter)
> > key v w x y
> > normal sth sth
> >
> > (switch)
> > key j k l m
> > normal sth $is_russian
> > russian sth $is_russian
>
> The problem is a bit bigger. I've tried to adopt layout conf to use
> russian letters, but got stuck. There are lower case and upper case
> letters. In english - everything is easy: normal and shift, but this
> scheme prohibits of entering anything else then this. Seems that it
> needs not such an easy method, but more complicated with switchable
> layouts, not just Fn key.
>
>
>
You can have as many layouts as you want. Right now there are 4 - normal,
shift, capslock, fn. So just add 2 more, like russian, russian_shift or
something.
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Re: literki update

2010-01-14 Thread Vladimir Berezenko
В Сбт, 26/12/2009 в 08:44 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет:

> 
> I'm stupid, of course you can use 2 layouts. Just use a function key,
> like fn to switch between them.
> 
> Example:
> 
> (russian letter)
> key a b c d
> russian sth sth 
> 
> 
> (english letter)
> key v w x y
> normal sth sth
> 
> (switch)
> key j k l m
> normal sth $is_russian
> russian sth $is_russian

The problem is a bit bigger. I've tried to adopt layout conf to use
russian letters, but got stuck. There are lower case and upper case
letters. In english - everything is easy: normal and shift, but this
scheme prohibits of entering anything else then this. Seems that it
needs not such an easy method, but more complicated with switchable
layouts, not just Fn key.

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Re: literki update

2010-01-10 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Ok, here's another version with a few fixes
- page up, page down keys work now
- $ key works now
- can toggle between opaque and transparent mode

If you want to use opaque mode in the landscape resolution, it's probably
wise to change the window size in the config, as it occupies almost the
whole screen by default.

Please test if everything works, because I'm only available until the end of
next week, and then I won't have time to do any fixes.

http://pvtrace.com/~miki150/literki_0.0.2-r6_armv4t.ipk


2009/12/24 Michal Brzozowski 

> Hi,
>
> here you can find the new version of Literki:
> http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r5_armv4t.ipk
>
> Changes:
> - fixed vibration
> - fixed some embarasing memory leaks
> - added horizontal and vertical scrolling buttons to the touchpad - they
> simulate mouse wheel scrolling.
>
> Since SHR is using Xorg now, all four scroll buttons work, and the pointer
> seems to be a little bit faster. This should greatly improve web browser
> experience, I hope. You can now use the mouse pointer to click tiny little
> links, and use the scroll buttons instead of scroll bars.
>
> Hope you have fun,
> Michal
>
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Re: literki update

2010-01-02 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Michal Brzozowski  wrote:
> So why exactly don't you like transparent mode? Is it not visible enough or
> too slow? Have you tried using it for a while (the 0.2 version) to see if
> you get used to it?

yes i have had 0.2 install for a while. and the lack of vibrate was
what i missed the most. the missing opaque mode sealed the deal for me
dropping back.
more or less its just more visually frustrating to me. and i cannot
really read anything below the letters anyhow so might as well put it
to a mode where the letters are highly visible.
and with a black and white text/background combo they are very
visible.   if i ever need to see something that is hidden under the
keyboard i just used the moved keyboard up and down keys.

though the real hotness would be to just have one key [mode key] that
lets you drag the keyboard around with your finger!

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Re: literki update

2010-01-02 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/12/27 jeremy jozwik 

>
> honestly michal, im on of your faithful followers of this fantastic
> program but i really dont know why you switched for the opaque /
> transparent switchable keyboard to one that is only transparent.
>
> im still slumming it with version 0.1 for that reason. i hardly ever
> use the transparent feature.
> and i think the opaque looks much nicer. if there were a way to change
> the font size in 0.1 in opaque mode that would be amazing.
>
>
>
Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for the input. I'll try to reintroduce the opaque mode feature, but
don't hold your breath. After I added the new larger font, I thought opaque
mode wasn't needed anymore.

So why exactly don't you like transparent mode? Is it not visible enough or
too slow? Have you tried using it for a while (the 0.2 version) to see if
you get used to it?

Michal
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Re: literki update

2009-12-27 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/28 Michal Brzozowski :
> 2009/12/27 Neil Jerram 
>>
>> However, when the keyboard isn't showing, it (literki) doesn't seem to
>> pass mouse clicks through to the window underneath.  Do I need to be
>> using Xglamo or xserver-xorg-server-glamo?  (I'm currently using
>> fbdev.)  If not, any other ideas?
>>
>
> It doesn't pass mouse clicks through the whole area where the keyboard was?
> It looks like a bug in literki, but I have no idea why it wouldn't occur in
> the SHR version. Normally when you hide the keyboard, the windows are moved
> outside the screen. The only thing that's left are the bottom transparent
> panels whose height is about 80px. They pass through mouse clicks, although
> not mouse drag events.

Many thanks, I'll investigate further with this in mind...

  Neil

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Re: literki update

2009-12-27 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/12/27 Neil Jerram 

>
> However, when the keyboard isn't showing, it (literki) doesn't seem to
> pass mouse clicks through to the window underneath.  Do I need to be
> using Xglamo or xserver-xorg-server-glamo?  (I'm currently using
> fbdev.)  If not, any other ideas?
>
>
It doesn't pass mouse clicks through the whole area where the keyboard was?
It looks like a bug in literki, but I have no idea why it wouldn't occur in
the SHR version. Normally when you hide the keyboard, the windows are moved
outside the screen. The only thing that's left are the bottom transparent
panels whose height is about 80px. They pass through mouse clicks, although
not mouse drag events.
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Re: literki update

2009-12-27 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/27 Neil Jerram :
> 2009/12/27 Michal Brzozowski :
>>
>> The makefile needed an update, sorry for that. See if it works now.
>
> Many thanks, the build is successful now.
>
> Then a slight adjustment was needed to the font path, and trying out...

Well I'm happy to report that it looks nicer in reality than it does
in the screen shots!

However, when the keyboard isn't showing, it (literki) doesn't seem to
pass mouse clicks through to the window underneath.  Do I need to be
using Xglamo or xserver-xorg-server-glamo?  (I'm currently using
fbdev.)  If not, any other ideas?

Regards,
Neil

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Re: literki update

2009-12-27 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/27 Michal Brzozowski :
>
> The makefile needed an update, sorry for that. See if it works now.

Many thanks, the build is successful now.

Then a slight adjustment was needed to the font path, and trying out...

 Neil

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Re: literki update

2009-12-27 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/12/27 Neil Jerram 

> 2009/12/24 Michal Brzozowski :
> >
> > And here you can find the source code (thanks to Christof and Christian):
> > http://git.senfdax.de/?p=literki;a=summary
>
> Unfortunately this repository is missing the source code for mymask.o,
> and because of that I can't build literki.  (Which I'm doing, instead
> of using opkg, because my distro is Debian.)  Could you possibly
> upload the missing file?
>
>
The makefile needed an update, sorry for that. See if it works now.
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Re: literki update

2009-12-27 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/24 Michal Brzozowski :
>
> And here you can find the source code (thanks to Christof and Christian):
> http://git.senfdax.de/?p=literki;a=summary

Unfortunately this repository is missing the source code for mymask.o,
and because of that I can't build literki.  (Which I'm doing, instead
of using opkg, because my distro is Debian.)  Could you possibly
upload the missing file?

Thanks!
  Neil

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Re: literki update

2009-12-27 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Neil Jerram  wrote:
> 2009/12/27 Michal Brzozowski :
> But I have to say, it's really ugly!  How do you manage to make the
> letters look so bad?  Is it because they are magnified from a font
> that isn't designed for such a large size?

honestly michal, im on of your faithful followers of this fantastic
program but i really dont know why you switched for the opaque /
transparent switchable keyboard to one that is only transparent.

im still slumming it with version 0.1 for that reason. i hardly ever
use the transparent feature.
and i think the opaque looks much nicer. if there were a way to change
the font size in 0.1 in opaque mode that would be amazing.

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Re: literki update

2009-12-27 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/27 Michal Brzozowski :
> 2009/12/27 Neil Jerram 
>>
>> But I have to say, it's really ugly!  How do you manage to make the
>> letters look so bad?  Is it because they are magnified from a font
>> that isn't designed for such a large size?
>>
>> Also, given that you are using transparency, why not use more of the
>> screen, like kbosd does?
>>
>
> Have a look at the config file. You can change the size of the keyboard, the
> font, and lots of other stuff. If it's still ugly you can buy an iphone :-)

Thanks for your quick answer.  I'll look at the config, as you suggest
- although I still think it's a valid question why the default font
looks so bad.  Buying an iphone is not an option!

Regards,
 Neil

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Re: literki update

2009-12-27 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/12/27 Neil Jerram 

> But I have to say, it's really ugly!  How do you manage to make the
> letters look so bad?  Is it because they are magnified from a font
> that isn't designed for such a large size?
>
> Also, given that you are using transparency, why not use more of the
> screen, like kbosd does?
>
>
Have a look at the config file. You can change the size of the keyboard, the
font, and lots of other stuff. If it's still ugly you can buy an iphone :-)
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Re: literki update

2009-12-27 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/27 Michal Brzozowski :
>
> For those undecided, here are 2 screenshots.

Thanks.  I'm currently looking for a keyboard for texting with a
finger, so the screenshots are very helpful.  (I use Debian, and the
matchbox-keyboard is fine for detailed work, but not when you want to
send a text while walking along the street.)

But I have to say, it's really ugly!  How do you manage to make the
letters look so bad?  Is it because they are magnified from a font
that isn't designed for such a large size?

Also, given that you are using transparency, why not use more of the
screen, like kbosd does?

Personally I like the look of kbosd and the usability of literki.  I
wish there was a combination of those two!

(To be clear, by "the usability" I mean this:

> To open the touchpad, you slide up from bottom left corner. To close it,
> slide down starting on any of the buttons. To open the keyboard, slide up
> from the bottom right corner. And slide down anywhere to close it.

With kbosd I have the problem that I can't get rid of it once it's there!)

Regards,
 Neil

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Re: literki update

2009-12-27 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/12/24 Michal Brzozowski 

> Hi,
>
> here you can find the new version of Literki:
> http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r5_armv4t.ipk
>
>
For those undecided, here are 2 screenshots.

This is the touchpad. On the right are the scrolling buttons, on the left
the mouse buttons, and the pointer above. You move the pointer by using the
touchpad area between the buttons.
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/a0b9c9fd3583ed234a4e88ca068bfd61.png

And this is the good old keyboard.
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/b0fd86b85f810efad34104827fab41d9.png

To open the touchpad, you slide up from bottom left corner. To close it,
slide down starting on any of the buttons. To open the keyboard, slide up
from the bottom right corner. And slide down anywhere to close it.
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Re: literki update

2009-12-26 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/12/24 William Kenworthy 

>
> Hi Michal, does this version co-exist nicely with e? - no more fighting
> with the built in keyboard on full screen apps?
>
> BillK
>
>
>
This is the ticket on this bug:
http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/398

I don't know if this will ever get fixed. If you want to get rid of it,
switch to a different wm.
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Re: literki update

2009-12-25 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/12/25 Vladimir Berezenko 

>
> Is it possible to implement in later releases the possibility of
> switching layouts. 1 layout is too few for russians. 8(
>
>
>
I'm stupid, of course you can use 2 layouts. Just use a function key, like
fn to switch between them.

Example:

(russian letter)
key a b c d
russian sth sth

(english letter)
key v w x y
normal sth sth

(switch)
key j k l m
normal sth $is_russian
russian sth $is_russian
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Re: literki update

2009-12-25 Thread Vladimir Berezenko
В Чтв, 24/12/2009 в 14:58 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет:


> 
> No, it only uses different layouts for portrait and landscape mode, if
> that helps you. 

Is it possible to implement in later releases the possibility of
switching layouts. 1 layout is too few for russians. 8( 

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Re: literki update

2009-12-24 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/12/24 jeremy jozwik 

> so then i brought the keyboard back from minimized and the scrolling
> stopped.
> only now i have an overlay of a cartoon cell phone, a rocket ship, and
> a little boat drawn on a black background
>
> as soon as i kill literki the overlay drops off.
>
> so...   good luck with that!
>
>
>
The top overlay is my window switcher in Icewm :-) You can turn it off in
the config file. About the clicks, I don't know why so many got generated,
but if it should work ok if you ignore them. I'll see if I come across any
problem in the next few days
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Re: literki update

2009-12-24 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 8:53 AM, jeremy jozwik  wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Michal Brzozowski  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Changes:
>> - fixed vibration

hmmm strange behavior at a close distance.

ive been playing around with it for about 15 min now.
adjusted the colors and vibration power. all was well until i tried to
minimize the keyboard.

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Re: literki update

2009-12-24 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Michal Brzozowski  wrote:
> Hi,
> Changes:
> - fixed vibration

sweet, maybe now i can upgrade from o.1

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Re: literki update

2009-12-24 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/12/24 Vladimir Berezenko 

> В Чтв, 24/12/2009 в 11:23 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет:
>
> > Changes:
> > - fixed vibration
> > - fixed some embarasing memory leaks
> > - added horizontal and vertical scrolling buttons to the touchpad -
> > they simulate mouse wheel scrolling.
> >
>
> Is it possible to use 2 different keyboard layouts in literki? Like
> english and russian.
>
>
No, it only uses different layouts for portrait and landscape mode, if that
helps you.
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Re: literki update

2009-12-24 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/12/24 William Kenworthy 

>
>
> Hi Michal, does this version co-exist nicely with e? - no more fighting
> with the built in keyboard on full screen apps?
>
>
>
Are you talking about e crashing on fullscreen when keyboard is set to none?
It's a bug in illume, I filed it long time ago, but I don't know if it's
fixed. I don't use e since long ago. The bug has nothing to do with Literki
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Re: literki update

2009-12-24 Thread Vladimir Berezenko
В Чтв, 24/12/2009 в 11:23 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет:

> Changes:
> - fixed vibration
> - fixed some embarasing memory leaks
> - added horizontal and vertical scrolling buttons to the touchpad -
> they simulate mouse wheel scrolling.
> 

Is it possible to use 2 different keyboard layouts in literki? Like
english and russian.


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Re: literki update

2009-12-24 Thread William Kenworthy
On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 11:23 +0100, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> here you can find the new version of Literki:
> http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r5_armv4t.ipk
> 
> Changes:
> - fixed vibration
> - fixed some embarasing memory leaks
> - added horizontal and vertical scrolling buttons to the touchpad -
> they simulate mouse wheel scrolling.
> 
> Since SHR is using Xorg now, all four scroll buttons work, and the
> pointer seems to be a little bit faster. This should greatly improve
> web browser experience, I hope. You can now use the mouse pointer to
> click tiny little links, and use the scroll buttons instead of scroll
> bars.
> 
> Hope you have fun,
> Michal
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Hi Michal, does this version co-exist nicely with e? - no more fighting
with the built in keyboard on full screen apps?

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Re: literki update

2009-12-24 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/12/24 Michal Brzozowski 

>
> here you can find the new version of Literki:
> http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r5_armv4t.ipk
>
>
And here you can find the source code (thanks to Christof and Christian):
http://git.senfdax.de/?p=literki;a=summary

In a couple of weeks I'll be going away for half a year, and won't do any
development. I anyone wants to pick up Literki, feel free.
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literki update

2009-12-24 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Hi,

here you can find the new version of Literki:
http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r5_armv4t.ipk

Changes:
- fixed vibration
- fixed some embarasing memory leaks
- added horizontal and vertical scrolling buttons to the touchpad - they
simulate mouse wheel scrolling.

Since SHR is using Xorg now, all four scroll buttons work, and the pointer
seems to be a little bit faster. This should greatly improve web browser
experience, I hope. You can now use the mouse pointer to click tiny little
links, and use the scroll buttons instead of scroll bars.

Hope you have fun,
Michal
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Re: literki update

2009-07-25 Thread Petr Vanek
>> There was patch for Illume to make transparent qwo working, which was
>> differing Keyboard and TransparentKeyboard cattegories in desktop
>> file. Literki should work with that patch and TransparentKeyboard
>> specified.
>>
>>
>Specifying the category in .desktop only causes illume to launch the
>keyboard at startup. To have it fully integrated you need to do some E
>magic in the code, and for me, using only xlib in literki, sounds too
>complicated atm to bother. I'm planning to set up an Icewm environment
>soon anyway, as I don't like Illume.


i have been using literki as the main keyboard now since the new
version with mouse support got released. saying this already implies "i
like it" :), thank you Michal!

and i am very happy about the way literki works with transparency - for
example with midori or actually any app: if you need the keyboard on
and off, freerunner is simply too slow redrawing the screen while the
application needs to get resized to make space for a keyboard.

a couple of things: 

- if startup of literki could be changed - now a yellow rectangle is
  drawn on the screen that looks bad - could literki start with some
  coordinates that are off the screen?

- for the future, integration with illume would be a logical step and
  ideally a button to switch between transparent overlay keyboard and
  windowed keyboard (perhaps restart would be needed, i am not sure)

thanks once again

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Re: literki update

2009-07-22 Thread Patryk Benderz

> Did you really like the vibration? Myself I was a annoyed by it. 
I liked it. In fact i still do, despite it is missing :)


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Re: literki update

2009-07-21 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> 2009/7/21 Petr Vanek 
>>
>> >> actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it
>> >> let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else.
>> >> like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard.
>> >
>> >A tap sound may help too.
>>
>> optional, please... hate that tap-tap sound :)
>>
>> P.
>
> how about a speech dispatcher to tell you what letter you typed? :-)

Great for little childrens :))

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Re: literki update

2009-07-21 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Petr Vanek wrote:
>>> actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it
>>> let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else.
>>> like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard.
>>
>>A tap sound may help too.
>
> optional, please... hate that tap-tap sound :)

Oh! yes mee too some times :) Michal may add a custom slide to
enable/disable it.

Nicola

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RE: literki update

2009-07-21 Thread Russell Dwiggins
> how about a speech dispatcher to tell you what letter you typed? :-) 

Actually a good idea for some folks.  Having access to all of these options
via a config would be great.

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Re: literki update

2009-07-21 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/7/21 Petr Vanek 

> >> actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it
> >> let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else.
> >> like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard.
> >
> >A tap sound may help too.
>
> optional, please... hate that tap-tap sound :)
>
> P.
>

how about a speech dispatcher to tell you what letter you typed? :-)
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Re: literki update

2009-07-21 Thread Petr Vanek
>> actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it
>> let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else.
>> like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard.
>
>A tap sound may help too.

optional, please... hate that tap-tap sound :)

P.


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Re: literki update

2009-07-21 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:30 PM, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
>> Did you really like the vibration? Myself I was a annoyed by it.
>
> actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it
> let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else.
> like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard.

A tap sound may help too.

Nicola

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Re: literki update

2009-07-21 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> Did you really like the vibration? Myself I was a annoyed by it.

actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it
let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else.
like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard.

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Re: literki update

2009-07-21 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/7/21 jeremy jozwik 

> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Michal Brzozowski
> wrote:
> > Sorry, vibration doesn't work at the moment. I'll turn it back on in the
> > next release.
>
> OH NOS!
>

Did you really like the vibration? Myself I was a annoyed by it.
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Re: literki update

2009-07-21 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> Sorry, vibration doesn't work at the moment. I'll turn it back on in the
> next release.

OH NOS!

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Re: literki update

2009-07-21 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/7/21 jeremy jozwik 

> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:50 AM, jeremy jozwik
> wrote:
> > Michal, can you explain the conf file and perhaps where it lives? i
> > want my keypress vibration back!
> >
>
> oh...   nevermind
>

Sorry, vibration doesn't work at the moment. I'll turn it back on in the
next release.
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Re: literki update

2009-07-21 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:50 AM, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> Michal, can you explain the conf file and perhaps where it lives? i
> want my keypress vibration back!
>

oh...   nevermind

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Re: literki update

2009-07-21 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> Here's a literki.conf explanation (I will update it shortly):
> http://pvtrace.com/literki_conf.html
>

> Have fun,
> Michal

Michal, can you explain the conf file and perhaps where it lives? i
want my keypress vibration back!

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Re: literki update

2009-07-20 Thread Michal Brzozowski
In case you didn't see the other thread. I implemented a mouse simulation
"touchpad" app. It allows you to point accurately without using a stylus,
and right click as well.

Just install this literki version:

http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r4_armv4t.ipk

To bring up the touchpad, slide up from the bottom left corner. To bring it
down, slide down on the buttons. The keyboard is bound to the bottom right
corner, as previously.

I'm curious to know how this input method works for you.

Michal
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Re: literki update

2009-07-20 Thread kimaidou
2009/7/20 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak 

>
> There was patch for Illume to make transparent qwo working, which was
> differing Keyboard and TransparentKeyboard cattegories in desktop
> file. Literki should work with that patch and TransparentKeyboard
> specified.
>

I would love to see this transparency patch aplied by default on shr
unstable...
The best would be an option (conf file) to set on or off the transparency
How far from this are we yet ?
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Re: literki update

2009-07-20 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 7/20/09, Michal Brzozowski  wrote:
> 2009/7/20 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak 
>
>> There was patch for Illume to make transparent qwo working, which was
>> differing Keyboard and TransparentKeyboard cattegories in desktop
>> file. Literki should work with that patch and TransparentKeyboard
>> specified.
>>
>>
> Specifying the category in .desktop only causes illume to launch the
> keyboard at startup. To have it fully integrated you need to do some E magic
> in the code, and for me, using only xlib in literki, sounds too complicated
> atm to bother. I'm planning to set up an Icewm environment soon anyway, as I
> don't like Illume.
>
> If there's a volunteer to integrate literki and illume, I'll gladly accept a
> patch :-)
>
> Michal

I don't think matchbox-keyboard, openmoko-keyboard, gridpad, Qtopia
keyboard and qwo E apps or are integrated into Illume. But they works
with Illume correctly :P

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Re: literki update

2009-07-20 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/7/20 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak 

> There was patch for Illume to make transparent qwo working, which was
> differing Keyboard and TransparentKeyboard cattegories in desktop
> file. Literki should work with that patch and TransparentKeyboard
> specified.
>
>
Specifying the category in .desktop only causes illume to launch the
keyboard at startup. To have it fully integrated you need to do some E magic
in the code, and for me, using only xlib in literki, sounds too complicated
atm to bother. I'm planning to set up an Icewm environment soon anyway, as I
don't like Illume.

If there's a volunteer to integrate literki and illume, I'll gladly accept a
patch :-)

Michal
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Re: literki update

2009-07-20 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 7/20/09, Nicola Mfb  wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Sebastian
> Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> Isn't integrating it in Illume just one desktop file with "Keyboard"
>> category?
>
> AFAIK illume virtual keyboards resizes the desktop area, while literki
> works on a different approach.

There was patch for Illume to make transparent qwo working, which was
differing Keyboard and TransparentKeyboard cattegories in desktop
file. Literki should work with that patch and TransparentKeyboard
specified.

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Re: literki update

2009-07-20 Thread Petr Vanek

>Isn't integrating it in Illume just one desktop file with "Keyboard"
>category?


i am not sure it's so easy. probably there is a signel emmited from
illume and literki would have to  accept and react on it. certainly this
would be a nice addition to the existing (very nice) way of popping up
(and also configurable through the already existing illume setup
interface).

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Re: literki update

2009-07-20 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Sebastian
Krzyszkowiak wrote:
[...]
>
> Isn't integrating it in Illume just one desktop file with "Keyboard" category?

AFAIK illume virtual keyboards resizes the desktop area, while literki
works on a different approach.

Nicola

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Re: literki update

2009-07-20 Thread fredrik normann
Does it support left slide for backspace and right slide for space?

-f-

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak <
seba.d...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7/20/09, Michal Brzozowski  wrote:
> > I've uploaded the source code.
> > http://pvtrace.com/literki-0.0.2.tar.gz
> >
> >> It is possible to use qwerty-button to popup and hide Literki?
> >
> > I'm not planning to integrate literki with illume, I think the current
> > show/hide method is good enough.
> >
> > 2009/7/20 OpenMitko 
> >
> >> Great job, Michal!
> >>
> >> Literki is the best keyboard I've used on my FR.
> >>
> >> Thank You, and keep it up!
> >>
> >> 2009/7/19 Michal Brzozowski 
> >>
> >>> Hi community,
> >>>
> >>> This is a new version of your favorite keyboard.
> >>>
> >>> This update is concentrated on using libfreetype for fonts, and this
> >>> means
> >>> 2 things:
> >>> - it supports unicode input (at least I hope so, I tried it only with
> >>> Polish letters :-))
> >>> - it looks much nicer
> >>> - the keys are much more visible when transparent, and thus I left
> >>> transparency always on
> >>> - you can change the font and size
> >>>
> >>> The mechanism for showing/hiding the keyboard has also changed.
> >>>
> >>> To pop up the keyboard: slide your finger upwards from the bottom right
> >>> corner.
> >>> To hide the keyboard: slide your finger down on the keyboard.
> >>>
> >>> You can configure what distance you need to slide. If you just click
> the
> >>> bottom right corner, the click goes through to the application, so it
> >>> (almost) doesn't affect using other applications when the keyboard is
> >>> hidden.
> >>>
> >>> Here's the package:
> >>> http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk
> >>>
> >>> Here's a literki.conf explanation (I will update it shortly):
> >>> http://pvtrace.com/literki_conf.html
> >>>
> >>> Here's a recent screenshot:
> >>> http://pvtrace.com/literki2.png
> >>>
> >>> Have fun,
> >>> Michal
>
> Isn't integrating it in Illume just one desktop file with "Keyboard"
> category?
>
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Re: literki update

2009-07-20 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 7/20/09, Michal Brzozowski  wrote:
> I've uploaded the source code.
> http://pvtrace.com/literki-0.0.2.tar.gz
>
>> It is possible to use qwerty-button to popup and hide Literki?
>
> I'm not planning to integrate literki with illume, I think the current
> show/hide method is good enough.
>
> 2009/7/20 OpenMitko 
>
>> Great job, Michal!
>>
>> Literki is the best keyboard I've used on my FR.
>>
>> Thank You, and keep it up!
>>
>> 2009/7/19 Michal Brzozowski 
>>
>>> Hi community,
>>>
>>> This is a new version of your favorite keyboard.
>>>
>>> This update is concentrated on using libfreetype for fonts, and this
>>> means
>>> 2 things:
>>> - it supports unicode input (at least I hope so, I tried it only with
>>> Polish letters :-))
>>> - it looks much nicer
>>> - the keys are much more visible when transparent, and thus I left
>>> transparency always on
>>> - you can change the font and size
>>>
>>> The mechanism for showing/hiding the keyboard has also changed.
>>>
>>> To pop up the keyboard: slide your finger upwards from the bottom right
>>> corner.
>>> To hide the keyboard: slide your finger down on the keyboard.
>>>
>>> You can configure what distance you need to slide. If you just click the
>>> bottom right corner, the click goes through to the application, so it
>>> (almost) doesn't affect using other applications when the keyboard is
>>> hidden.
>>>
>>> Here's the package:
>>> http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk
>>>
>>> Here's a literki.conf explanation (I will update it shortly):
>>> http://pvtrace.com/literki_conf.html
>>>
>>> Here's a recent screenshot:
>>> http://pvtrace.com/literki2.png
>>>
>>> Have fun,
>>> Michal

Isn't integrating it in Illume just one desktop file with "Keyboard" category?

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Re: literki update

2009-07-20 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/7/20 Patryk Benderz 

> Hi Michał,
> I have just tried to install literki on OM2009t5 gave:
> r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install
> http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk
> Downloading http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk
> Installing literki (0.0.2-r3) to root...
> Collected errors:
>  * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for literki:
> *  libfakekey0 (>= 0.2+svnr1455) *
>
> Any hints, where can i get this library?
>

Try here:
http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/libfakekey0_0.2+svnr1455-r1_armv4t.ipk
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Re: literki update

2009-07-20 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hi Michał,
I have just tried to install literki on OM2009t5 gave:
r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install
http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk
Downloading http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk
Installing literki (0.0.2-r3) to root...
Collected errors:
 * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for literki:
 *  libfakekey0 (>= 0.2+svnr1455) * 

Any hints, where can i get this library?

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Re: literki update

2009-07-20 Thread Michal Brzozowski
I've uploaded the source code.
http://pvtrace.com/literki-0.0.2.tar.gz

> It is possible to use qwerty-button to popup and hide Literki?

I'm not planning to integrate literki with illume, I think the current
show/hide method is good enough.

2009/7/20 OpenMitko 

> Great job, Michal!
>
> Literki is the best keyboard I've used on my FR.
>
> Thank You, and keep it up!
>
> 2009/7/19 Michal Brzozowski 
>
>> Hi community,
>>
>> This is a new version of your favorite keyboard.
>>
>> This update is concentrated on using libfreetype for fonts, and this means
>> 2 things:
>> - it supports unicode input (at least I hope so, I tried it only with
>> Polish letters :-))
>> - it looks much nicer
>> - the keys are much more visible when transparent, and thus I left
>> transparency always on
>> - you can change the font and size
>>
>> The mechanism for showing/hiding the keyboard has also changed.
>>
>> To pop up the keyboard: slide your finger upwards from the bottom right
>> corner.
>> To hide the keyboard: slide your finger down on the keyboard.
>>
>> You can configure what distance you need to slide. If you just click the
>> bottom right corner, the click goes through to the application, so it
>> (almost) doesn't affect using other applications when the keyboard is
>> hidden.
>>
>> Here's the package:
>> http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk
>>
>> Here's a literki.conf explanation (I will update it shortly):
>> http://pvtrace.com/literki_conf.html
>>
>> Here's a recent screenshot:
>> http://pvtrace.com/literki2.png
>>
>> Have fun,
>> Michal
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Re: literki update

2009-07-20 Thread OpenMitko
Great job, Michal!

Literki is the best keyboard I've used on my FR.

Thank You, and keep it up!

2009/7/19 Michal Brzozowski 

> Hi community,
>
> This is a new version of your favorite keyboard.
>
> This update is concentrated on using libfreetype for fonts, and this means
> 2 things:
> - it supports unicode input (at least I hope so, I tried it only with
> Polish letters :-))
> - it looks much nicer
> - the keys are much more visible when transparent, and thus I left
> transparency always on
> - you can change the font and size
>
> The mechanism for showing/hiding the keyboard has also changed.
>
> To pop up the keyboard: slide your finger upwards from the bottom right
> corner.
> To hide the keyboard: slide your finger down on the keyboard.
>
> You can configure what distance you need to slide. If you just click the
> bottom right corner, the click goes through to the application, so it
> (almost) doesn't affect using other applications when the keyboard is
> hidden.
>
> Here's the package:
> http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk
>
> Here's a literki.conf explanation (I will update it shortly):
> http://pvtrace.com/literki_conf.html
>
> Here's a recent screenshot:
> http://pvtrace.com/literki2.png
>
> Have fun,
> Michal
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Re: literki update

2009-07-19 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
Great. It is possible to use qwerty-button to popup and hide Literki?
And release link to sources.

-Aapo Rantalainen

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Re: literki update

2009-07-19 Thread Jakob
Hey Michal,

I really like using literky and i like the new version even more. The
way how to popup/hide the keyboard is great and intuitinal.
Keep up the good work!

Jake

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literki update

2009-07-19 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Hi community,

This is a new version of your favorite keyboard.

This update is concentrated on using libfreetype for fonts, and this means 2
things:
- it supports unicode input (at least I hope so, I tried it only with Polish
letters :-))
- it looks much nicer
- the keys are much more visible when transparent, and thus I left
transparency always on
- you can change the font and size

The mechanism for showing/hiding the keyboard has also changed.

To pop up the keyboard: slide your finger upwards from the bottom right
corner.
To hide the keyboard: slide your finger down on the keyboard.

You can configure what distance you need to slide. If you just click the
bottom right corner, the click goes through to the application, so it
(almost) doesn't affect using other applications when the keyboard is
hidden.

Here's the package:
http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk

Here's a literki.conf explanation (I will update it shortly):
http://pvtrace.com/literki_conf.html

Here's a recent screenshot:
http://pvtrace.com/literki2.png

Have fun,
Michal
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