Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread Mark Tinka
On 6/Dec/19 15:42, Omo Oaiya wrote: > > Now, I am sure you are deliberately trying to be sensational :-). Don’t > detract from the usefulness of your efforts with the hounding. > > Sunday already gave you good advice. These are questions for AFRINIC the > company rather than AFRINIC the

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , Omo Oaiya wrote: >I read from the press link you shared and on the member's list that >AFRINIC is conducting an internal investigation as would be expected and >that it will be concluded shortly. Swell. When? Give me a date certain by which this matter will receive a full and

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , Andrew Alston wrote: >This doesn't add up - if an auditor is resigning - the number of times you >see that happen in the market is so few and far between, and in almost every >case I have found looking into this - it signified a massive and profound >problem - because by resigning -

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread ousmane
Please ISabel, go ahead for the sake of clarity and transparency! As community, it's better to seek "healing this terrible wound" ASAP for the credibility of AfriNIC. And, for that every contribution is essential as if at all it helps to understand better the problem! But, all this will be

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread Omo Oaiya
> On 6 Dec 2019, at 13:16, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message <14bbab93-2e14-4338-81c4-87b8fecef...@wacren.net>, > Omo Oaiya wrote: > >> On a serious note, we need a proper investigation. Let's >> wait to hear from the CEO > > Have any of us been doing otherwise, for lo these past

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread Andrew Alston
I also have significant concerns about what was said here. Fact - the issue of stolen IP address space was raised with AfriNIC - AFTER Alan left - and a block was recovered. I have email trails and personally had conversations with board members post the leaving of the former CEO about this.

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , Sunday Folayan wrote: >If I have sounded off-key, please accept my sincere apologies... Not at all, and no apologies are either needed or warranted. Regards, rfg ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread Wayne Diamond
Hi The problem I seem to be having at the moment with AfriNic is that is seems to be stumbling from one crisis to the next crisis with promises made by both the board and the new CEO to investigate/ report back/ resolve/ mediate etc. I accept that the new CEO tenure has just started and that

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <14bbab93-2e14-4338-81c4-87b8fecef...@wacren.net>, Omo Oaiya wrote: >On a serious note, we need a proper investigation. Let's >wait to hear from the CEO Have any of us been doing otherwise, for lo these past three months now? Have we been afforded any other choice in the matter?

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <79ff870d-157f-424f-b4b7-7f425550b...@consulintel.es>, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >I also believe that he is a smart guy. I would not dispute that characterization in the slightest. >So, put yourself in the position of >a smart guy that want to do something bad. Do you think you

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread Sunday Folayan
Dear Mr Guilmette, On 06/12/2019 11:07, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: Mr. Folayan, Let me begin by saying that I greatly apperciate your thoughtful response. At the moment, I have only a few brief comments to add, above and beyond what I have already said and what Jan Vermeulen has already

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread Omo Oaiya
> On 6 Dec 2019, at 11:04, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss > wrote: > > > So, I will like to request to Ernest, to provide a clear explanation, and may > be publicly recognize what (if any) have been his mistakes and involvement an > all this. > :-) Might as well setup a

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread Sunday Folayan
Good points Jordi, and thanks for the throwback on the very many amazing sacrifices we all made, to grow the Internet in Africa. I will resist asking Ernest to defend himself here, We are not constituted as a competent jury, neither do we want to compromise the ongoing investigations.

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
Mr. Folayan, Let me begin by saying that I greatly apperciate your thoughtful response. At the moment, I have only a few brief comments to add, above and beyond what I have already said and what Jan Vermeulen has already written. In message <4ad77d37-f1d5-04a2-86bd-79802faeb...@gmail.com>,

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread Sunday Folayan
Dear Mr Guilmette, Regrettably, I do not monitor the press, but selected channels such as this list. It seems I got your attention, or you got my attention, or we both got each other's attention. Let us therefore maximize the possession. Important and interesting questions, that you have

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Sunday, all, I’ve been in “internal conflict” myself, since I read the article. Let me tell why. I met Ernest the first time around 2005, if I recall correctly. My first AFRINIC meeting was AFRINIC-2 in Maputo, Mozambique, and shortly after, during an ITU meeting in Geneva, Adiel