Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC

In message , Wijdane Goubi wrote: >Whereas, at or around 08:29:50, Leslie from ARIN explains the scope of >their policy, they only audit in fraud cases and only deregister in case of >fraud. And typically, not even then!! References: https://seclists.org/nanog/2019/Aug/461

Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC

Hi Wijdane, To be honest, I could careless about the global consensus of how IPv4 address space is used and what Andrea Cima said about RIPE because AFRINIC is not RIPE. IANA allocated to AFRINIC and AFRINIC allocated to LIR's within its region based on need with a justied purpose. AFRINIC has

Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC

Hi Widjane, I agree with you in some of the points, but not in all them. Policies among the RIRs aren’t exactly the same. They tend to converge with the time, but not always are 100% the same. In fact, in some RIRs, right now, if you asked for resources and provided documents about what

Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC

Dear community, Technically speaking, if a change of the nature is not allowed (as claimed by some) this doesn’t make any technical sense at all as there are consensus among several RIRs to allow inter RIR transfer and also allows intra RIR transfers. The logic adopted that the change of nature

Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC

In my opinion, the right way to have this is: Bylaws, almost as they are now. They refer already to the resources, PDP and the RSA. RSA. Handles well the relation of any member with AFRINIC. However, this is only covering “full members” in the sense that they are getting any resources from

Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC

Hi Noah Thanks for your prompt reply. I will say the same goes for the bylaw, they are both lawyer-made documents which should not govern the usage of community resource. Or else lawyers can do whatever they want to, then what is the point of having a community and CPM? Using bylaw to

Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC

Hi Paul, Before we dwell into the RSA, please read the AFRINIC Bylaws and specifically article 3.4 sections (i) and (iii). The constitution is clear on what the objectives of AFRINIC are among others. The RSA and ratified policies regulate the said management of Internet number resources. Noah

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 15:11 Owen DeLong, wrote: > > > On Feb 11, 2021, at 03:49 , Noah wrote: > > How much unused legacy resources are we looking at? > > > I thought the above was a simple question but or are you asking how much legacy space is currently idle? > Yes and am asking AFRINIC

Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC

Hello Everyone, It is vital to note that the RSA is not the document to regulate the resource usage. If this is the case then, the entire bottom up policy will be obsolete! The RSA can easily be amended by AFRINIC which allows and permit an arbitrary form of changes being made neglecting the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

In message , Sunday Folayan wrote: >There is an hierarchy regarding the legacy space: > >1. Legacy Space as a whole > >2. Idle Legacy Space [There are indeed legacy spaces in use, and not idle] > >3. Hijacked and now recovered Idle legacy Space. [There are some legacy >spaces that can never be

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 03:49 , Noah wrote: > > > > On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 14:42 Owen DeLong, > wrote: > > >> On Feb 9, 2021, at 14:11 , Noah mailto:n...@neo.co.tz>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi AFRINIC Team, >> >> While reading the report, I noted that among the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC

On Fri, 5 Feb 2021, 14:56 AFRINIC Communication, wrote: > Dear Frank, > > AFRINIC has not approved any application for IP space for the purpose of > leasing despite having received such requests. > Has AFRINIC endeavoured to check if IPv4 address space that it allocated to its members for

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

> Noah, > > There is an hierarchy regarding the legacy space: > > 1. Legacy Space as a whole I think the idea of “legacy space” is a mistake. The idea that there is some magical property to addresses which were first issued prior to the existence of RIRs which is preserved in perpetuity is

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 14:42 Owen DeLong, wrote: > > > On Feb 9, 2021, at 14:11 , Noah wrote: > > Hi AFRINIC Team, > > While reading the report, I noted that among the recommendations on how to > make things better, was below. > > >- The report recommends that the AFRINIC community critically

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

> On Feb 9, 2021, at 14:11 , Noah wrote: > > Hi AFRINIC Team, > > While reading the report, I noted that among the recommendations on how to > make things better, was below. > > The report recommends that the AFRINIC community critically assess how best > the accuracy of the information

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 14:15 Sunday Folayan, wrote: > > On 2/11/21 12:02 PM, Noah wrote: > > > > On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 13:57 Sunday Folayan, wrote: > >> From the report ... >> >>- Our current business rules now provide better support to legacy >>resource holders such that proper

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

On 2/11/21 12:02 PM, Noah wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 13:57 Sunday Folayan, > wrote: From the report ... * Our current business rules now provide better support to legacy resource holders such that proper verification for legacy

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 13:57 Sunday Folayan, wrote: > From the report ... > >- Our current business rules now provide better support to legacy >resource holders such that proper verification for legacy resources holders >will be conducted before any updates are made to the records on

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

From the report ... * Our current business rules now provide better support to legacy resource holders such that proper verification for legacy resources holders will be conducted before any updates are made to the records on the AFRINIC WHOIS database. It is important to quickly

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

Hi Ronald In short AFRINIC is paving the way and seeks the communities input on how to handle the abandoned space. When one attempts a whois query today, you will note a flag which AFRINIC has slapped on most of the legacy space which has since been recovered some of which is under dispute. But