Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-21 Thread Noah
Hi Alan The fact remains that running any sort of Internet business will always require the local country's regulations of some sort which means the power to regulate the cyber space remains with the government. Meanwhile, the Internet has been restored in Cameroon as many of you might be

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-20 Thread Andrew Alston
differently, please can you show it to me – because that’s an issue that I’ve argued for a long time Andrew From: Mark Elkins [mailto:m...@posix.co.za] Sent: 20 April 2017 16:40 To: community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role fo

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-20 Thread Noah
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Mark Elkins wrote: > > > On 20/04/2017 14:28, Noah wrote: > > Hi Badru > > People are talking about targeting executive branches of governments not > knowing that most of the shutdown that have happened in the past including > the one in

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-20 Thread Mark Elkins
On 20/04/2017 14:28, Noah wrote: > Hi Badru > > People are talking about targeting executive branches of governments > not knowing that most of the shutdown that have happened in the past > including the one in Cameroon has a lot to do with the local countries > politics, policies and

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-20 Thread Noah
Hi Badru People are talking about targeting executive branches of governments not knowing that most of the shutdown that have happened in the past including the one in Cameroon has a lot to do with the local countries politics, policies and regulation. Some countries governments don't shutdown

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-18 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi SM, On 04/17/2017 10:04 AM, sm+afri...@elandsys.com wrote: > > I gather that you noticed the issue of which of the two local ISOCs is > the local chapter. One of them has links to a political party. > Yes. > > Promoting the development of the internet also entails discussing about >

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-16 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi SM, On 04/16/2017 01:01 AM, sm+afri...@elandsys.com wrote: > > Yes. > I was referring to the tweet you sent to the alleged president of ISOC MU. > > That meeting was held because the local chapter was dormant. I don't > know what the local chapter has been doing since then. > Okay. >>

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-15 Thread sm+afrinic
Hi Ish, At 11:46 15-04-2017, Ish Sookun wrote: Are you referring to the tweet? Yes. On the ISOC member portal the Mauritius chapter is just a phone number, nothing more. There is no information about other members or a president. I see no ISOC activity in Mauritius. I read that you

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-15 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi SM, On 04/15/2017 06:38 PM, sm+afri...@elandsys.com wrote: > > I did not receive any reply from the president of the local ISOC chapter > when I asked about internet shutdowns. There hasn't been much interest > in the human rights issues during that debate. Three companies in the > region

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-15 Thread Willy MANGA
Hi , (speaking in my own capacity) Le 13/04/2017 à 10:21, Seun Ojedeji a écrit : > > > Dear Community, > >[...] > One other thing that comes to mind is whether AFRINIC can be pro-active > instead of re-active i.e they are made aware of the planned act and issue > strong statement against it

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-15 Thread sm+afrinic
Hi Andrew, At 14:39 14-04-2017, Andrew Alston wrote: But it raises a question – annd its one I've been debating at length online with multiple people. AfriNIC – completely neutral ttechnical body AfriNIC – political organisation with a technical function AfriNIC – A hybrid of both of thhe

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-15 Thread Andrew Alston
Hi Alan, Thanks – that’s actually a very useful reference – particularly if we dig into it deeper: 3.4 The Company shall have, both within and outside the Republic of Mauritius, full capacity to carry and/or undertake any business or activity, including but not limited to the following

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-15 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 14 Apr 2017, at 22:39, Andrew Alston > wrote: > > But it raises a question – and its one I’ve been debating at length online > with multiple people. > > AfriNIC – completely neutral technical body > AfriNIC – political organisation with a technical

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-14 Thread Andrew Alston
l.b...@gmail.com> Cc: General discussion of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC? Give this Borg a pint on me! The AFRINIC board (whose members are domiciled in different parts of the

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-14 Thread Chevalier du Borg
2017-04-13 13:21 GMT+04:00 Seun Ojedeji : > I wonder how AFRINIC can futher leverage on this to drive down the point > about why government needs to stop considering a shutdown of internet or > certain service as an option. > You think this logic will make sense to the

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-13 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
Dear Brother Folayan Yes this is the best way as we can not fight our governments. We can only engage them through all channels available like AFGWG and others. The Afrinic CEO already promised he shall organise open discussions at the AIS which is fantastic initial progress on how to go about

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-13 Thread Christian Bope
Here my draft Dear all, I have been following this policy discussion passionately. I do understand the need of keeping Internet up all the time knowing it's importance for economies, educations, developpement and other. We should engage countries using different channels such AFGWG, AU and

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-13 Thread Noah
Hi Seun, Indeed Tutu has raise some great pointers and in addition to your centiments, i am of the view this kind of approach is more fruitful ref: internet shutdowns and censorship. I suppose AFRINIC has been in the past engaging governments through the AFGWG and i would be keep to get some

[Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-13 Thread Seun Ojedeji
Dear Community, Tutu raises a critical point and I also strongly agree that we should let this discussion live on. AFRINIC sure presently have provided various avenues to engage government and as i think there seem to be a slow but steady improvement in govt participation. I wonder how AFRINIC