Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2022-01-07 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
Each of them is described in a case in Mauritian court. Feel free to pull the cases. They should not be hard to find. Owen > On Jan 7, 2022, at 09:10, Owen DeLong wrote: > >  > >>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 02:14 , DANIEL NANGHAKA wrote: >>> >>> I wonder why some members can't let the court

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2022-01-07 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
> On Dec 30, 2021, at 02:14 , DANIEL NANGHAKA wrote: > > I wonder why some members can't let the court of law do its work. > > AFRINIC has provided updates to the community where necessity of the update > is important. Several of which have contained false or misleading claims and most of

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-31 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message Ibeanusi Elvis wrote: >The press release is in no way obstructing the functionality and the >ability of the court to carry out its duties nor is it misleading the >community. There is nothing vague, defamatory or "not facts" about the >press release... It alleges "multiple"

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-31 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message DANIEL NANGHAKA wrote: >AFRINIC has provided updates to the community where necessity of the update >is important. > >If CI is to do there press releases, there is no problem as it is also >noted that they should present facts and not mislead the community. > >CI's press release

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-30 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message Ibeanusi Elvis wrote: >This "sockpuppet" ideology and terminology that has become an excessively >overused irrelevant term in this mailing list. What is wrong with sharing a >link of interest or a link that a member consider relevant to him/herself. >Freedom of expression is always

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-30 Thread Ibeanusi Elvis
Hello Daniel, The press release is in no way obstructing the functionality and the ability of the court to carry out its duties nor is it misleading the community. There is nothing vague, defamatory or “not facts” about the press release. Rather I will recommend you should study more about the

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-30 Thread John Curran
On 30 Dec 2021, at 6:32 AM, Mathanya Ramaboea mailto:mathanyaw...@gmail.com>> wrote: How is any press release obstructing the court's job and misleading the community? Here it is obviously directed at CI's clients, which is a normal move from any private company. Judging from the info in the

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-30 Thread Mathanya Ramaboea
How is any press release obstructing the court's job and misleading the community? Here it is obviously directed at CI's clients, which is a normal move from any private company. Judging from the info in the statement published, I think necessity of update should come from both AFRINIC and CI

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-30 Thread DANIEL NANGHAKA
I wonder why some members can't let the court of law do its work. AFRINIC has provided updates to the community where necessity of the update is important. If CI is to do there press releases, there is no problem as it is also noted that they should present facts and not mislead the community.

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-29 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
Are you saying that the cloud innovation press release contains false, misleading, or inaccurate defamatory claims about afrinic? Owen > On Dec 28, 2021, at 12:38, John Curran wrote: > >  >> On 28 Dec 2021, at 2:49 PM, Mathanya Ramaboea wrote: >> >> I highly appreciate CI's good

[Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-29 Thread Sylvain Baya
Dear AfriNIC's Community, ...comment below inline, please. Le mar. 28 déc. 2021 21:38, John Curran a écrit : > > On 28 Dec 2021, at 2:49 PM, Mathanya Ramaboea > wrote: > > I highly appreciate CI's good communication with its clients regarding the > development of the lawsuit but I also agree

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-28 Thread John Curran
On 28 Dec 2021, at 2:49 PM, Mathanya Ramaboea mailto:mathanyaw...@gmail.com>> wrote: I highly appreciate CI's good communication with its clients regarding the development of the lawsuit but I also agree that it would be good to see what AFRINIC also has to say on the matter, to its members

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-28 Thread Mathanya Ramaboea
I highly appreciate CI's good communication with its clients regarding the development of the lawsuit but I also agree that it would be good to see what AFRINIC also has to say on the matter, to its members and everyone else in the community. It is normal that the case involves a certain level of

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-28 Thread sisoko daze
Ibeanusi made a good point, but Mike made a much better point. I must say afrinic and cloud innovation/larus are really duking it out at each other's throat, seeing how even afrinic is breaching court's order based on the link provided by Cheken. But i'll hold my reservations until i hear

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-28 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/28/21 10:36, Mike Silber wrote: The key difference is that when AfriNIC shares an update, it is from an organizational email account and the person’s affiliation is clearly stated. It is not paid shills pretending to be objective and impartial “community members” yet pushing a

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-28 Thread Murungi Daniel via Community-Discuss
Right on Mike. Thank you. Regards, Daniel > On Dec 28, 2021, at 11:36 AM, Mike Silber wrote: > > The key difference is that when AfriNIC shares an update, it is from an > organizational email account and the person’s affiliation is clearly stated. > > It is not paid shills pretending to

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-28 Thread Mike Silber
The key difference is that when AfriNIC shares an update, it is from an organizational email account and the person’s affiliation is clearly stated. It is not paid shills pretending to be objective and impartial “community members” yet pushing a specific (and presumably paid) objective. I

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-27 Thread Ibeanusi Elvis
Hello All, This “sockpuppet” ideology and terminology that has become an excessively overused irrelevant term in this mailing list. What is wrong with sharing a link of interest or a link that a member consider relevant to him/herself. Freedom of expression is always promoted in this community as

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

2021-12-27 Thread Serah Eazy
I don’t see anything wrong with someone sharing a link of interest to some mailing lists. The past updates have been shared by AFRINIC itself or a community member that wanted to transmit the information and hardly anyone considered that a « sockpuppet » act. Only the two parties involved in the