Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-05-03 Thread Ish Sookun
Ho Owen, On 03/05/2022 04:36, Owen DeLong wrote: > It puts the board in the position of being able to appoint the board > through the casual vacancy process for up to nearly the full term of > each board seat potentially. > Yes. > It allows a corrupt board to perpetuate itself by eliminating

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-05-02 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
The two of you are talking past each other about different things without achieving a meeting of the minds. The board has the power to appoint committees and committee members. The board has the power to appoint board members through the casual vacancy process UNTIL THE NEXT Member Meeting at

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-05-02 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
> On Apr 30, 2022, at 23:27, Ish Sookun wrote: > > Hello folks, > > On 28/04/2022 11:07, AFRINIC Communication wrote: >> >> 2. In an event that a casual vacancy must be filled, the Board should >> fill the said vacancy till the end of the previous candidate’s mandate, >> i.e. when the next

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-05-02 Thread ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE
Dear Mirriam, Thanks once again. Before you conclude that I am wrong. Please tell us how many members of Govcom are appointed by members and how many appointed by the community. Then also how many from both sides are voting members. Then also how big ( in terms of numbers) is the community and

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-05-02 Thread Mirriam via Community-Discuss
Dear Mirriam, >> I have no problem with setting up a Governance Committee.  Good. >> The board can set it up by asking various sections of the community to >> nominate >> not for the board to be the one to screen and nominate.  Wrong. Afrinic Resource Members vote and elect one of the two GovCom

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-05-01 Thread ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE
Dear Mirriam, I have no problem with setting up a Governance Committee. The board can set it up by asking various sections of the community to nominate and not for the board to be the one to screen and nominate. Can you now go ahead and answer my question. Cheers AK On Sun, 1 May 2022, 13:37

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-05-01 Thread Sunday Folayan
Dear Community, I provide the following comments, in line with the GovCom's request for comments on the report to the community, regarding its advice to the Board. Dear GovCom, Thank you very much for the time you have taken to advise the board on this matter. Specifically the problem that you

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-05-01 Thread Mirriam via Community-Discuss
Dear Abdulkarim I have attempted twice in my responses to you to clearly and vividly point you to the relevant sections of the Bylaws which empowers the board to form committees and GovCom is one such committee. I take it that you have deliberately ignored to read and understand my previous

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-05-01 Thread ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE
Dear Mirriam, I was expecting you to show me where in the bylaw that stated the committee and asked that the board should be the one appointing all the members. Please show me and not reefers me to a board resolution. I said some of these board members are power hungry and you are referring me

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-05-01 Thread Mirriam via Community-Discuss
 >>Dear Mirriam,   >> The bylaw is clear and it never stated those committee.  Dear Abdulkarim Thank you for your response. Now that I have determined that you do not know what the Bylaws state, Please go to the link https://www.afrinic.net/bylaws  and read section 15 which contains a

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-05-01 Thread ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE
Dear Mirriam, The bylaw is clear and it never stated those committee. The board resolution did. What do you expect in the first place. The board cannot be the Alpha and omega of the community. That is exactly my point. A Bottom- up process must be followed and not top- down. The Board

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-05-01 Thread Mirriam via Community-Discuss
Hello Abdulkarim,  >>If you think that it is right for the board members to be the ones to appoint fellow board   >>members on a long term basis, appoint all members of the governance committee, all   >>members of the appeal committee and all other committees and appoint the co-chair for the   

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-05-01 Thread Ish Sookun
Hello folks, On 28/04/2022 11:07, AFRINIC Communication wrote: > > 2. In an event that a casual vacancy must be filled, the Board should > fill the said vacancy till the end of the previous candidate’s mandate, > i.e. when the next AGMM of the respective seat comes up for election per > Article

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-04-30 Thread ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE
Dear Mirriam, Apologies for my 'relentless nonsense' and for telling me what is beneath me. I didn't know that having a PhD is so prestigious that so many things are now beneath me. I was thinking that I use the residual knowledge from my prestigious PhD to enlighten a few community members (i

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-04-30 Thread Mirriam via Community-Discuss
Dear Abdulkarim I am really disgusted by your relentless nonsense.  We women who are on these lists are not encouraged to participate because of reading the petty emails that have been flying from you and others. It was a pleasure meeting you in Kampala and I still have your business card but

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-04-29 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
> On Apr 28, 2022, at 00:07 , AFRINIC Communication wrote: > > Dear Community, > > On April 23rd and 24th 2022, the GovCom had a 2-day face-to-face working > session for the purposes of the assignment in reference to the Board's > resolution 202202.677, whereby, the GovCom met as a result

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-04-28 Thread ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE
Dear Daniel and all, I laughed reading through your beautiful write-up from my 'friend'. As a University lecturer, I have seen lots of beautiful writeups like this, and at the end of the day, I wonder where the logic is?. I guess in this case; the logic was left out after having a 2-day AFRINIC

[Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

2022-04-28 Thread AFRINIC Communication
Dear Community, On April 23rd and 24th 2022, the GovCom had a 2-day face-to-face working session for the purposes of the assignment in reference to the Board's resolution 202202.677, whereby, the GovCom met as a result of a board's request where it had been mandated to undertake a Bylaws'