Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

During both the election process and the public policy meeting, there were multiple instances of the same individuals refusing to cede the microphone after the chair repeatedly called them out of order. I will leave searching the video archives as an exercise for the reader as I have better

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ly 14, 2017 11:25:41 AM > To: Andrew Alston > Cc: Owen DeLong; community-discuss@afrinic.net > > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency > > So I'm curious how this will contribute to the achievement of AfriNICs > mission statement. Or even the internet community

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Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency So I'm curious how this will contribute to the achievement of AfriNICs mission statement. Or even the internet community in general. I would rather prefer to see your energys directed in an additive activity Sent from my iPhone On 14 Jul

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Sent from my iPhone On 13 Jul 2017, at 08:10, Owen DeLong > wrote: However, I am certain you are unlikely to share my perspective as you are almost certainly allied with this group of ill-behaved malcontents. ??? I'm allied with the Afrinic community

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On 13 Jul 2017 12:29 p.m., "Ali Hussein" wrote: Hi all Without addressing anyone in particular I honestly and humbly wish we can exercise some decorum, good will and a sense of community. There's is too much personalization and hurling of insults and insinuations on this

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On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > I think a more accurate description of the events is that certain portions > of the community with no sense of decorum or fairness spoke very loudly and > refused to give up the floor even after being declared out of order >

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I think a more accurate description of the events is that certain portions of the community with no sense of decorum or fairness spoke very loudly and refused to give up the floor even after being declared out of order repeatedly by the chair of the meeting. However, I am certain you are

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2017-06-27 10:00 GMT+04:00 : > I'll consider providing some information if I attend a meeting. I am open > to representatives of member organizations asking me why Afrinic Ltd is > covering my travel expenses. You just prove you donnot even understand the matter at

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Dear Brother SM.Afrinic, Are you the same as Moonesamy? Where are you located now.? I am heading back to Durban CBD, so you can tell me where i shall meet but i shall go back to the township tomorrow for community work as we empower our youths about the technology. Best Regards, Tutu Ngcaba

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Hello, At 06:13 AM 6/27/2017, Tutu Ngcaba wrote: Where are you based as i am today in township in Empangeni with the team we finish community work. It is unfortunately too far from where I am currently located. Regards, S. Moonesamy ___

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Dear Brother S Moonesamy Where are you based as i am today in township in Empangeni with the team we finish community work. Best Regards, Tutu Ngcaba On 27 Jun 2017 3:46 p.m., "S Moonesamy" wrote: > Hi Tutu, > > I would appreciate if we could meet each other. If

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My brother SM.Afrinic Why you will go to hotel to sleep in hotel which the Afrinic paid fees from this members money they collect. You must give reports so the money afrinic paid shall not be wasted. This idea of brother Andrew is correct. The board members mustn't just be in the Nairobi

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

Hello, At 07:45 PM 6/26/2017, Chevalier du Borg wrote: So IF board member attending a non-AfriNIC meeting is not a perk/benefit of being a board member, THEN surely the board member should give us a short report on why the company is spend money on them to travel no? I'll consider providing

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Hello, At 04:02 AM 6/26/2017, Chevalier du Borg wrote: But there must be reason for which AfriNIC pay air flight, hotel and allowance for you (or any board member) to travel to a not-AfriNIC meeting right? It ok, if community agree that it's a benefit of being board member. Let just declare

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

2017-06-26 12:23 GMT+04:00 : > I met several persons from Africa over the last few days. I appreciate > that they took some time to have a conversation with me. I would not list > that as an accomplishment as it is not something which has visible results. But there

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Hi Ish, At 12:36 AM 6/26/2017, Ish Sookun wrote: I understand that Andrew is asking about transparency and not the usefulness of the meetings beforehand. The community will be in a better position to understand the usefulness of board members presence in the meetings if there are reports about

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Both are equally important. 1. Transparency for Corporate Governance :-) 2. Usefulness for Operational Efficiency or best use of always scarce organizational funds. I'm sure however that there's already a system in place to do this. If so question then is how these reports are presented to

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Hi SM, On 06/26/2017 10:34 AM, sm+afri...@elandsys.com wrote: > > Afrinic is also a Regional Internet Registry (RIR). Is it useful for it > to have a presence at RIR-related conferences? If so, at what level > should the presence be? I understand that Andrew is asking about transparency and

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 9:34 AM, wrote: > Hi Andrew, > At 10:42 PM 6/4/2017, Andrew Alston wrote: >> >> e.)When AFRINIC is funding board travel to meetings around the world – >> should board members be able to attend these conferences without ever >> supplying

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Hi Andrew, At 10:42 PM 6/4/2017, Andrew Alston wrote: e.)When AFRINIC is funding board travel to meetings around the world – should board members be able to attend these conferences without ever supplying reports about what was accomplished at said meetings and what the purpose of the

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It's same with what is presented at AIS see here: https://internetsummitafrica.org/agenda#day-2017-06-01 Regards On 9 Jun 2017 8:20 AM, wrote: > Hi Andrew, > At 05:23 06-06-2017, Andrew Alston wrote: > >> I believe that the NRO actually already publishes a report - I

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Hi Andrew, At 05:23 06-06-2017, Andrew Alston wrote: I believe that the NRO actually already publishes a report - I don't know how detailed it is - but what I personally would like to see from AFRINIC is to say "We funded our I found the following:

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

Hi Andrew, At 05:23 06-06-2017, Andrew Alston wrote: I believe that the NRO actually already publishes a report - I don't know how detailed it is - but what I personally would like to see from AFRINIC is to say "We funded our ASO/NRO representatives to the tune of X, of which Y was travel

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

Hi Andrew, At 22:42 04-06-2017, Andrew Alston wrote: So – I want to open a bit of a discussion about transparency, specifically, financial transparency. In order to get this started – let me ask a few questions of all of you – [snip] d.)When AFRINIC is funding organizations such as the

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On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:53 PM, Mark Elkins wrote: > >> On 05/06/2017 19:55, Mirriam wrote: >>> >>> On Monday, June 5, 2017, 11:38:59 AM GMT+3, Mark Elkins >>> wrote: >>> >>> I agree with you Ali. When Andrew first campaigned to be a Board member, >>> one of

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Ali Thanks for highlighting the issues bellow. Some board members have claimed championing transparency but I think we all need to have the same definition of the word. The issue of publishing the minutes was a community mandate to the board not a board initiative. I also like the issue on

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redactions made. > > Thanks > > Andrew > > > From: Ali Hussein [mailto:a...@hussein.me.ke] > Sent: 05 June 2017 12:29 > To: m...@posix.co.za > Cc: community-discuss@afrinic.net > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency > > Ma

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: Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency Mark and all Let's raise the bar on transparency and proper reporting is super critical. For example a quick perusal of the Afrinic Website tells me that:- 1. The last minutes posted were in February this year. I see there was another Board

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

Mark and all Let's raise the bar on transparency and proper reporting is super critical. For example a quick perusal of the Afrinic Website tells me that:- 1. The last minutes posted were in February this year. I see there was another Board meeting in April which has no minutes posted yet. Can

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

I agree with you Ali. When Andrew first campaigned to be a Board member, one of his goals was increased transparency. I believe that he has helped, with the rest of the Board, achieve this. Transparency though is an ongoing process and its a pity that Andrew was not re-elected to continue

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Andrew You raise pertinent and important issues. The rule of thumb for any public organization is that Transparency trumps (no pun intended) everything else. If I were asked and was a member of the Board, I'd advocate for FULL disclosure on financial and operational matters. How money was

[Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

Hi All, So - I want to open a bit of a discussion about transparency, specifically, financial transparency. In order to get this started - let me ask a few questions of all of you - While we talk about transparency and how it is required - can we analyze for a moment as to the level of