Re: [Community-Discuss] [SPAM] Re: Closure: was: Board Statement on Board Member's Conduct

2017-06-09 Thread MBJ
I agree with Badru Mustapha Ben Jemaa De : Badru Ntege [mailto:badru.nt...@nftconsult.com] Envoyé : vendredi 9 juin 2017 22:47 À : Ismail Settenda Cc : General Discussions of AFRINIC Objet : [SPAM] Re: [Community-Discuss] Closure: was: Board Statement on Board Member's Conduct Members

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closure: was: Board Statement on Board Member's Conduct

2017-06-09 Thread Noah
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Sunday Folayan wrote: > The community protested the dramatic shutdown with strong words at the > mic that day. > > +1 Sunday Very complex social/political and economic issues for poor Afrinic PDP to deal beyond the back/forth. AIS2017

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closure: was: Board Statement on Board Member's Conduct

2017-06-09 Thread Badru Ntege
Members I would like to ask that we close this thread. The main objective of the AIS17 event was that we had a successful workshop week. We also had an engaging meeting week. The organisation had challenges but besides all challenges the community came together discussed, and ended the

Re: [Community-Discuss] [AFRINIC-Announce] Common Statement By AF* on Internet Shutdowns in Africa

2017-06-09 Thread Ismail Settenda
Really, on whose behalf are you speaking, I certainly didn't think Andrew is horrible. I suspect the issue is more in this saying I think I saw at the Jo'burg Airport..“If you want to go quickly, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.”. I don't think Andrew fully appreciates this

Re: [Community-Discuss] [AFRINIC-Announce] Common Statement By AF* on Internet Shutdowns in Africa

2017-06-09 Thread Sunday Folayan
On 09/06/2017 18:47, Chevalier du Borg wrote: 2017-06-06 17:17 GMT+04:00 Ornella GANKPA >: We ended up with this statement because this community is resilient and survived to the abuse of the AFRINIC PDP by the authors of the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closure: was: Board Statement on Board Member's Conduct

2017-06-09 Thread Ismail Settenda
+1 I too disagree it was abuse...a painful example maybe but if it is good manners you advocating for then lets first be appreciative then complain. As it is I didnt see any email apperiacating the speed and good internet beforehand ... then not escalate things needlessly..! Regards -- Ismail

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closure: was: Board Statement on Board Member's Conduct

2017-06-09 Thread Nishal Goburdhan
On 09 Jun 2017, at 19:31, Danny wrote: > Local host should always ensure high availability by having at least 2 > service providers regardless of how many fiber links one provider can bring > into the conference after all even during the workshop week, Liquid internet >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closure: was: Board Statement on Board Member's Conduct

2017-06-09 Thread McTim
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Danny wrote: > Dear Mark, > > Ben Roberts behavior was another abuse of this community's patience. I disagree. I recall a RIPE meeting where the v4 connectivity was shut off to demonstrate what that was like, and no one batted an eye. I

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closure: was: Board Statement on Board Member's Conduct

2017-06-09 Thread Andrew Alston
You complain because it is abuse – that is what we say about governments shutting down the Internet You say it was unnecessary – but your complaining about it is illustrating the exact point we wished to make – shutdowns hurt – shutdowns upset people – shutdowns are abusive – shutdowns are bad

Re: [Community-Discuss] [AFRINIC-Announce] Common Statement By AF* on Internet Shutdowns in Africa

2017-06-09 Thread Chevalier du Borg
2017-06-06 17:17 GMT+04:00 Ornella GANKPA : > We ended up with this statement because this community is resilient and > survived to the abuse of the AFRINIC PDP by the authors of the > anti-shutdown policy proposal which unfortunately included a board member > who somehow

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closure: was: Board Statement on Board Member's Conduct

2017-06-09 Thread Chevalier du Borg
2017-06-09 21:31 GMT+04:00 Danny : > Ben Roberts behavior was another abuse of this community's patience. > > What if liquid was not sponsoring connectivity. How would Ben have > demonstrated his unnecessary shutdown? > > > Doing such shutdown on a sponsored link under SLA

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closure: was: Board Statement on Board Member's Conduct

2017-06-09 Thread Danny
Dear Mark, Ben Roberts behavior was another abuse of this community's patience. What if liquid was not sponsoring connectivity. How would Ben have demonstrated his unnecessary shutdown? Doing such shutdown on a sponsored link under SLA for a major regional event (AIS) does not give honor to

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closure: was: Board Statement on Board Member's Conduct

2017-06-09 Thread Sunday Folayan
Dear Benjamin, There is nothing to investigate on that matter. The community protested the dramatic shutdown with strong words at the mic that day. An apology was tendered by Ben Roberts on the floor immediately. I thought the community closed the matter then. The AIS Programme Committee is in

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closure: was: Board Statement on Board Member's Conduct

2017-06-09 Thread Mark Elkins
I'm sorry, but what is to investigate? Ben from Liquid stated that he was going to initiate a partial shutdown of the Internet for demonstration purposes (to demonstrate what it felt like) for the duration of his talk on "Internet Shutdowns" policy. He kept to his word. This was obviously planned

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closure: was: Board Statement on Board Member's Conduct

2017-06-09 Thread Benjamin Eshun
Dear Sunday, Thank you for the information. Have we investigated the Internet shutdown which occurred during the AFRINIC Public Policy meeting at AIS2017, in order to clarify the responsibilities of Connectivity sponsor and of AIS NOC team on the Incident ? How come AIS2017 was run with only

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

2017-06-09 Thread Seun Ojedeji
It's same with what is presented at AIS see here: https://internetsummitafrica.org/agenda#day-2017-06-01 Regards On 9 Jun 2017 8:20 AM, wrote: > Hi Andrew, > At 05:23 06-06-2017, Andrew Alston wrote: > >> I believe that the NRO actually already publishes a report - I

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

2017-06-09 Thread sm+afrinic
Hi Andrew, At 05:23 06-06-2017, Andrew Alston wrote: I believe that the NRO actually already publishes a report - I don't know how detailed it is - but what I personally would like to see from AFRINIC is to say "We funded our I found the following: