[Community-Discuss] Fwd: [safnog] SAFNOG-5 Call for Papers

2019-06-04 Thread Mark Tinka
FYI. Mark. Forwarded Message Subject:[safnog] SAFNOG-5 Call for Papers Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 12:03:49 + From: Portia Rabonda To: saf...@safnog.org Dear All, Call for papers is open ​and the SAFNOG-5 Programme Committee would like to encourage your

Re: [Community-Discuss] Announcement for Final Candidate Slate for Open Seat on AFRINIC Governance Committee

2019-06-04 Thread Noah
On Tue, 4 Jun 2019, 15:15 Sander Steffann, wrote: > Hi Noah, > > > Read the bylaws especially section 13.8 > > When there is no candidate then the current director will be re-appointed. You missed the word "eligible" candidate! Nomcom has since slated eligible candidate and candidates with

Re: [Community-Discuss] Announcement for Final Candidate Slate for Open Seat on AFRINIC Governance Committee

2019-06-04 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Noah, > Read the bylaws especially section 13.8 When there is no candidate then the current director will be re-appointed. Appointed != Elected. >> No election -> no Directors > > Board can appoint. True. My statement was exaggerated. My apologies. An appointed board does not have a

Re: [Community-Discuss] Gratitude

2019-06-04 Thread Benjamin Ledoh
Hi Sander, It seems to me that you have not got my points well. I will rephrase them differently and give my last comments. Based on the minutes of the board, you sent an email accusing the board of micromanagement. When I asked you to point it out in the minutes, you directed me to textbook. I

Re: [Community-Discuss] Announcement for Final Candidate Slate for Open Seat on AFRINIC Governance Committee

2019-06-04 Thread Andrew Alston
Noah, Section 13.8 exists in specific circumstance – to fill a casual vacancy – which is only valid until the date of the next election. So yes – in the event of none of the above – the board has the right to appoint for a limited period – not a full 3 year term. Do I believe that is right?

Re: [Community-Discuss] Announcement for Final Candidate Slate for Open Seat on AFRINIC Governance Committee

2019-06-04 Thread Noah
On Tue, 4 Jun 2019, 13:30 Sander Steffann, wrote: > Hi, > > > All of the applicable definitions require the ability (right) to freely > choose. When there is no choice, there is no election. > > And to be perfectly clear on this: as there is no election, I believe this > violates section 13.7(i)

Re: [Community-Discuss] Announcement for Final Candidate Slate for Open Seat on AFRINIC Governance Committee

2019-06-04 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, > All of the applicable definitions require the ability (right) to freely > choose. When there is no choice, there is no election. And to be perfectly clear on this: as there is no election, I believe this violates section 13.7(i) of the Afrinic bylaws, as those explicitly state: """

Re: [Community-Discuss] Announcement for Final Candidate Slate for Open Seat on AFRINIC Governance Committee

2019-06-04 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Owen, > Given that the none-of-the-above option has been removed from AfriNIC > elections, should not the NomCom have a mandate to seek at least two > candidates for any position before declaring a final slate? > > Otherwise, this basically gives the NomCom the authority to appoint members

Re: [Community-Discuss] Announcement for Final Candidate Slate for Open Seat on AFRINIC Governance Committee

2019-06-04 Thread Andrew Alston
Saul, you are correct. However, there is an extension to this – remember – the board appoints the nomcom – they are in effect – a form of board committee. Furthermore the board approves the slate. Furthermore – the board are the ones that unilaterally – against many objections on these lists

Re: [Community-Discuss] Announcement for Final Candidate Slate for Open Seat on AFRINIC Governance Committee

2019-06-04 Thread Saul Stein
hi I agree with Owen: the candidate list that AFRINIC has sent out for the new board in the upcoming elections in two weeks: https://afrinic.net/candidate-slate-board-election-2019 Besides the fact that we are meant to have the