Re: [Community-Discuss] FW: Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread Augustine CHII Ngek
Good day internet lovers, I have followed discussions in this forum for sometimes now and have reaffirmed our diversity and believe that it can be used possitively. So much bad and or good have been poured and written, we the silent listener think that one of you accused or not can sail through

Re: [Community-Discuss] Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jun 19, 2019, at 16:40, Wayne Diamond wrote: > > > I see a couple of issues here: > This is why last week I suggested that members are only allowed to respond > from the email address of the member they are representing. (If they > represent more than 1 member then they should be

Re: [Community-Discuss] FW: Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread Mark Elkins
Hi Adiel. Good to see you around! On 2019/06/19 17:04, Chevalier du Borg wrote: Le mer. 19 juin 2019 à 15:49, Alan Levin > a écrit : Shocking! So sad... I can't see how this could be addressed, there is a toxic BOD and everything that leads down

Re: [Community-Discuss] FW: Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread Mike Silber
Dear M Knight I think you forgot to add the sarcasm warning label for those unable to appreciate any subtlety! > On 19 Jun 2019, at 17:04, Chevalier du Borg wrote: > > > Dear M. Alan, > > > Since private sector people have show they don't have maturity to manage > common resource for the

Re: [Community-Discuss] FW: Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread Warwick Duncan
Hi Sunday I'm very new to this list and the Afrinic community. I respect your view and will keep it in mind. Regards Warwick On 2019/06/19 17:36, Sunday Folayan wrote: > hello Warwick, > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 18:01 Warwick Duncan > wrote: > > Hi Sunday > >

Re: [Community-Discuss] FW: Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread Sunday Folayan
hello Warwick, On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 18:01 Warwick Duncan wrote: > Hi Sunday > > On 2019/06/19 16:08, Sunday Folayan wrote: > > This is a strong and extreme suggestion to a very simple problem. > > > > I think you should withdraw it. > > Disagree again. While I don't think that Alan's hope

Re: [Community-Discuss] FW: Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread Binta lesauveur
so the truth finally comes out. people are working tirelessly to shutdown afrinic. tell me though, what is stopping you from joining ripe? benjamin ledoh is wrong for his email but even a broken clock gives the right time twice a day. community i urge you to take notice of people taking

Re: [Community-Discuss] FW: Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread Warwick Duncan
Hi Sunday On 2019/06/19 16:08, Sunday Folayan wrote: > This is a strong and extreme suggestion to a very simple problem.  > > I think you should withdraw it.  Disagree again. While I don't think that Alan's hope that Afrinic shuts down is the right one, I would hope that we can debate it and

[Community-Discuss] My election statement for PDWG CoChair

2019-06-19 Thread Mark Elkins
Presidence - whilst I was in charge of Elections (NomCom) - I allowed one person to proxy another - therefore Ashok is wrong. I'm sick - with flu - and a bad voice - even then - I was not allowed to connect my Mic to the conference. Ernest also refused my phone call.

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

2019-06-19 Thread Ali Hussein
Badru If you read my mail carefully I made some assumptions on perceptions. The conversations going on here don't elicit confidence. Am I far fetched in my thinking? Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn:

Re: [Community-Discuss] FW: Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Agree with Warwick. Any member of an organization or community is free to speak. What is not acceptable is that one person making accusations to other community members, which said is in the meeting (so he can go to the mic), is not able to provide his real identity and then is discovered that

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

2019-06-19 Thread Badru Ntege
Correction 500 Human beings and somewhere in those human beings are members ☺ 500 members? Really? Let’s see the vote tallies Liquid Telecommunications - Group Head Of IP Strategy From: Badru Ntege Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 4:37:00 PM To: Ali Hussein;

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

2019-06-19 Thread Andrew Alston
500 members? Really? Let’s see the vote tallies Liquid Telecommunications - Group Head Of IP Strategy From: Badru Ntege Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 4:37:00 PM To: Ali Hussein; General Discussions of AFRINIC Cc: aleruchich...@yahoo.com Subject: Re:

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

2019-06-19 Thread Badru Ntege
@Ali When you say the “community has lost faith” do you speak for the billion African users, the 1700 members, the over 500 currently attending the conference ??? I find it a very general statement and abit of clarification might help Regards From: Ali Hussein Date: Wednesday, June

Re: [Community-Discuss] FW: Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread Warwick Duncan
Hi Badru On 2019/06/19 15:15, Badru Ntege wrote: > Alan Levin wrote  “I really hope AfriNIC is shut down at this point” [..] > However I would like to ask the Board to invoke its right to expel > members who are working against the interest of the organization and the > message above by Alan

Re: [Community-Discuss] FW: Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread John Walu
True @ Badru I have to agree with you. Proclaiming an AfriNIC shutdown and jumping RIPE as the better option simply reinforces 'Benjamin Ledoh' conspiracy theories. Very bad optics and doesn't look good. It should be resisted by the many who still believe there is some hope and a future for

Re: [Community-Discuss] FW: Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread Badru Ntege
Hi All I'm trying to find how any of this links to an AfriNIC the company.This is a bottom up process, if all members comments were equated to Afrinic the company, where would we be ?? I'm tired of all this negativity. AfriNIC is an organization with employees who do a great job.

Re: [Community-Discuss] FW: Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread Badru Ntege
Alan Levin wrote “I really hope AfriNIC is shut down at this point” I find it hard to balance a statement like that. The organization will survive as much as many wish it not to. However I would like to ask the Board to invoke its right to expel members who are working against the interest

Re: [Community-Discuss] FW: Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread Warwick Duncan
Hi Alan On 2019/06/19 14:47, Alan Levin wrote: [..]> I really hope AfriNIC is shut down at this point > I would rather work with RIPE I can't agree on those two points. My hope is that Afrinic can be fixed from within and that we in the region don't have to run to a big brother figure to fix it

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

2019-06-19 Thread Andrew Alston
Ali, Solutions have been proposed – over and over and over again. They have been ignored – it is a sad day Andrew From: Ali Hussein Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2019 12:46 To: General Discussions of AFRINIC Cc: aleruchich...@yahoo.com; benjamin.le...@gmail.com; Andrew Alston Subject: Re:

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

2019-06-19 Thread Ali Hussein
This is a symptom of the bigger problem that afflicts Afrinic. My thoughts:- 1. Seems to me (perception really that may not be reality) that Afrinic is on auto-pilot and the software operating it is corrupted. 2. The board is missing in action. 3. The community has basically lost faith in the

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

2019-06-19 Thread Andrew Alston
I have another question actually. Can anyone confirm that this individual actually physically exists and is not the twisted alter ego of some other person who does not have the guts to actually stand up and show themselves? In the original email – they claim to have just arrived in Kampala –

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

2019-06-19 Thread Robert Jooste via Community-Discuss
I think if emotions were taken out of emails like this it would be much more productive. Get Outlook for Android From: aleruchi chuku via RPD Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:50:55 AM To: benjamin.le...@gmail.com Cc: General Discussions

Re: [Community-Discuss] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

2019-06-19 Thread Andrew Alston
Benjamin, I’ve given this a little more thought – and while I stand by my statements that your assertions are false, libelous in the extreme and quite possibly could lead to legal action against yourself as a result of the character assassinations and defamation contained herein, I thought –

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

2019-06-19 Thread Taiwo Oyewande
Dear all, Policy discussions are currently going on. Can we push aside conspiracy theories without basis and focus on discussing policies that mould Internet usage in Africa. Benjamin, show your face and stop using pseudo emails, maybe then you will deserve some time from the community. One

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

2019-06-19 Thread Sarah Kiden
Benjamin, To be honest, the real disappointment this email. I can only say SMH. Yes, I am literally shaking my head. Sarah On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 1:44 AM Benjamin Ledoh wrote: > Dear Community, > > I have arrived in Kampala this yesterday and the intelligence I have > gathered since then is

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

2019-06-19 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Benjamin, Let me explain how I see this from my perspective. I’ve not spoken with anyone, apart from the public emails in the list, about my policy proposals. I usually don’t do. They come from my understanding of what is good for the community. I even don’t ask support in private to