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Exactly, GDPR is about both citizens and residents. Anyone living in EU is also protected. If Afrinic host mailing list and databases with may contain EU-person data, it is subjected to GDPR. There is no doubt in that. After all, what it really matters is that Maurituis has an

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> On Jul 10, 2019, at 00:51 , John Walu wrote: > > @ Owen > > GDPR territorial scope extends beyond Europe since its is EU citizen specific > rather than geo-specific. > > https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/ Nope… It’s EU PERSON specific, not EU citizen.

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Dear all, Just a quick reminder that many have forgotten:        - Réunion and Mayotte are part of the Afrinic service region.     - There is members in both those territories that hold ressources from Afrinic (IPv4, IPv6, AS).     - Both territories are French and fully belong to the EU. I

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Great to AfriNIC staff to have on the table this will to be up-dated, relating to such world-wide important issues! Looking forward to seeing sound proposals & actions, among them "education kits" for the readiness of our community to complain with these nowadays "acceptable rules" of

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> On 10 Jul 2019, at 12:22, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss > wrote: > > Right now, I just checked the privacy statement in the web site > (https://afrinic.net/privacy). Sadly, I don’t think this is consistent with > the latest GDPR (even for the Mauritius regulation). We

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Hi John, Right, those are the points that most of the people is missing: Citizens and Residents of the EU are protected, never mind the infringement is committed outside that territory. You may decide not to pay the fine, but then that person/organization will not be able to continue doing

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Well said walu But the Parliament in Mauritius is about to pass the privacy law at some point which is very close to GDPR. Which is to protect the Mauritius citizens equally so I would say as I keep saying this let us just use the most not lenient laws so we have a compass to ensure compliance

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@ Owen GDPR territorial scope extends beyond Europe since its is EU citizen specific rather than geo-specific. https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/ In other words, anyone (Data controller/processor) handling EU citizen data is automatically subject to the GDPR in the event of a data breach -

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From: Owen DeLong Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 7:55 AM To: Sami Salih Cc: Andrew Alston; Ahmed Fadl; wafa Dahmani; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Sami, I would hope that you (and others) can see the difference between your

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> On Jul 5, 2019, at 14:13 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss > wrote: > > Hi Alan, > > If the board can't investigate that, we may have a problem, because Afrinic > has to comply with GDPR. Why? AfriNIC is not located in the EU and does not solicit business with EU persons.

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On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 1:09 AM Omo Oaiya wrote: > > > On 5 Jul 2019, at 23:01, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss < > community-discuss@afrinic.net> wrote: > > Hi Ommo, > > Responding very shortly: > > If the emails come from an internal Afrinic database (for example, > membership), then

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> On 5 Jul 2019, at 23:01, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss > wrote: > > Hi Ommo, > > Responding very shortly: > > If the emails come from an internal Afrinic database (for example, > membership), then the data protection regulations are not efficient. Perhaps you missed this?

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Hi Ommo, Responding very shortly: If the emails come from an internal Afrinic database (for example, membership), then the data protection regulations are not efficient. The nicer/faster solution is that Wafa tell us how the emails were collected, because if there is some unexpected

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Jordi, > On 5 Jul 2019, at 22:13, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss > wrote: > > Hi Alan, > > If the board can't investigate that, we may have a problem, because Afrinic > has to comply with GDPR. > > I don't know if those emails come from whois or something else, but some logs >

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Hi Alan, If the board can't investigate that, we may have a problem, because Afrinic has to comply with GDPR. I don't know if those emails come from whois or something else, but some logs may tell. I my opinion it will be nicer to get a response from Wafa, and I'm sure the community will be

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Hi Noah, I just responded to a previous email on this. The law is not about “if you don’t like an email send it to the junk box”. The law is about protecting people privacy and emails are (in most of the countries in the world), personal data. Nobody can use emails for a different

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INEZ Date: Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 12:11 PM To: Ahmed Fadl , "Community-Discuss@afrinic.net" Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Hi Ahmen, I mean before getting the email advertisings the candidates, have you personally provided your email to Wafa?

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On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 1:42 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss < community-discuss@afrinic.net> wrote: > Hi Noah, > > > > I’m sure we all have contacts from lots of people from the community, but > we use those contacts for the reason they have been provided, is not lawful > to use

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> On 3 Jul 2019, at 15:50, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss > wrote: > > I’m angrier about this as much as I think on it again. > > Can the board and the staff investigate this? > > Can all the people that got those emails confirm if they have provided > voluntarily their

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provided for all community members Thank you From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ [mailto:jordi.pa...@consulintel.es] Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:00 AM To: Ahmed Fadl ; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Hi Ahmed, Can you confirm if you have p

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o:jordi.pa...@consulintel.es] Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:09 AM To: Ahmed Fadl ; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Hi Ahmen, I mean before getting the email advertisings the candidates, have you personally provided your ema

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ct: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Shokran Ahmed for showing up, welcome to AFRINIC community. you said: I noticed that all the list by Wafaa from the same region why? I don’t know If I understand your sentence correctly, I have to tell you that AFRINIC board is 9 seats (6 Regional,

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Indeed  I was attempting to avoid lobbying from an unbiased perspective and encouraging people to read and make up their own minds *grin* Andrew From: Frank Habicht Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2019 11:13 To: community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

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ommunity members Thank you From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ [mailto:jordi.pa...@consulintel.es] Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:00 AM To: Ahmed Fadl mailto:ahmed.f...@57357.org>>; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC B

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> *From:* Sami Salih > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2019 4:54 PM > *To:* Andrew Alston; Sander Steffann > *Cc:* Sander Steffann; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net; Ahmed Fadl; wafa > Dahmani > *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections >   > Could you

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ [mailto:jordi.pa...@consulintel.es] Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:00 AM To: Ahmed Fadl ; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Hi Ahmed, Can you confirm if you have provided your email to Wafa and if that’

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Hi Jordi Already my mail provided for all community members Thank you From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ [mailto:jordi.pa...@consulintel.es] Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:00 AM To: Ahmed Fadl ; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Hi Ahmed, Can you

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ll respect for community members. Thank you From: Sami Salih [mailto:sami.sa...@outlook.com] Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 6:14 AM To: Noah ; Ahmed Fadl Cc: Community-Discuss@afrinic.net; wafa Dahmani Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Salam I hope you reply Ahmed

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Alston; Sander Steffann Cc: Sander Steffann; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net; Ahmed Fadl; wafa Dahmani Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Could you please share the link Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> From: Andrew Alston

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Fadl Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:28 AM To: Sami Salih; Noah Cc: Community-Discuss@afrinic.net; wafa Dahmani Subject: RE: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Thank you Sami for your introduction Let me also introduce myself My name is Ahmed Fadl, I’m working in healthcare nonprofit

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my country and all African countries. Also all respect for community members. Thank you From: Sami Salih [mailto:sami.sa...@outlook.com] Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 6:14 AM To: Noah ; Ahmed Fadl Cc: Community-Discuss@afrinic.net; wafa Dahmani Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad

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President of SDv6TF T/F: (249)122045707/187171355 From: Noah Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 1:41 AM To: Ahmed Fadl Cc: Community-Discuss@afrinic.net; wafa Dahmani Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Dear Ahmed First and foremost, welcome on-board

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I spend 20% of my e-mail time unsubscribing from lists I was signed on, that I have zero clue about. I don't wonder how my e-mail address was obtained (I mean, I could guess since Google'ing myself actually returns a usable result), but I just don't have the time. A further 10% of my e-mail time

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Dear Ahmed First and foremost, welcome on-board this community mailing list since I am seeing you post for the first time ever and I hope you will continue to engage in various discussions as a member of the community now. So, I have been catching up with email and I would like to also

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Hi Noah, I’m sure we all have contacts from lots of people from the community, but we use those contacts for the reason they have been provided, is not lawful to use those for anything else. The point here is that even if I’ve your email because we have contected about operational

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Hi Jordi, On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:51 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss < community-discuss@afrinic.net> wrote: > I’m angrier about this as much as I think on it again. > I hope you have come down. > > Can all the people that got those emails confirm if they have provided >

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Hi Sami, > So wafa use her public email too :-) Again: it doesn't matter which email address you use, when in the content of the message you claim affiliation. Cheers, Sander signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP ___

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ubject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Hi Sami, > I'm using a public email (outlook.com) not my official one (sustech.sd), > however my signature is MY signature I use it to show the people the ground > where I stand when I say something.

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Hi Sami, > I'm using a public email (outlook.com) not my official one (sustech.sd), > however my signature is MY signature I use it to show the people the ground > where I stand when I say something. Exactly. Sander signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

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Hi Sami, (re-sending because the previous email had a wrong from address) > I see this email sent to individuals to support/campaign for some nominators > (I'm not in agreement with all proposed names) who are among the public slat > of AFRINIC candidates, IMHO any one is free to campaign. The

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To: Sami Salih Cc: Andrew Alston; Ahmed Fadl; wafa Dahmani; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Hi Sami, I see this email sent to individuals to support/campaign for some nominators (I'm not in agreement with all proposed names) who are among

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4:15 To: wafa Dahmani mailto:wafatn7...@gmail.com>>; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Hi Wafa, Thanks for your email. I, among other members of AFRINIC in Egypt, received the followi

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55 From: Andrew Alston mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:28 PM To: Ahmed Fadl; wafa Dahmani; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elec

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fatn7...@gmail.com>>; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Hi Wafa, Thanks for your email. I, among other members of AFRINIC in Egypt, received the following email from you many times. I wond

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)122045707/187171355 From: Andrew Alston Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:28 PM To: Ahmed Fadl; wafa Dahmani; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections This email raises so many questions. While as I have clearly stated – I do not have ANY problem w

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)122045707/187171355 From: Andrew Alston mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:28 PM To: Ahmed Fadl; wafa Dahmani; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Thi

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I’m angrier about this as much as I think on it again. Can the board and the staff investigate this? Can all the people that got those emails confirm if they have provided voluntarily their emails or if they have participated in Afrinic lists, or if those emails are part of their Afrinic

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-Discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections This email raises so many questions. While as I have clearly stated – I do not have ANY problem with anyone lobbying on behalf of candidates and their beliefs – however – I have serious issues when other groups

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This is really very ugly. Are we really crazy to believe that the community is not able to decide on their own? I’ve seen a similar situation in other regions and this is outside of the code of conduct (written or not), or the elections proccesses. There are several points here: Have the

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representative of the views of Global IGF? I really hope not – but – I have to ask – since that is what the email was signed as. Thanks Andrew From: Ahmed Fadl Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:15 To: wafa Dahmani ; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

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Hi Wafa, Thanks for your email. I, among other members of AFRINIC in Egypt, received the following email from you many times. I wondered at that time why should I vote for these candidates specially for those in Eastern and Southern regions while each one was the sole candidate in