Re: Update to mailing lists page
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Ben Laurie wrote: The usual answer is to put one axis at the left, one at the right. Excellent; that's a useful suggestion for a solution. Done. The left-hand side now shows the highwater mark for subscriptions, and the right-hand side shows it for posts. I must've missed the Page Length Tax announcement ;-) Didn't you hear? Tsk, tsk.. So why don't you have the peak right at the top instead of wasting the top 20% - isn't there extra tax for blank sections? -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.thebunker.net/ There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit. - Robert Woodruff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update to mailing lists page
I find the page useful too. However, it does take rather a long time to load. Might I suggest the following: - split the page into separate pages for each domain and/or - create a page with links to the chart images, instead of including them inline Just a thought. S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update to mailing lists page
Ken, perhaps avoid repetitous questions by declaring the criteria for list inclusion on the face of the page. --David Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Antonio Gallardo wrote: The link is very nice! Can you add the cvs mail lists to see the activity of them too? The page is for *all* public ASF lists. 'Public' meaning 'anyone can subscribe without having to be moderated.' If there are lists that aren't showing up, it means that they require subscriptions to be moderated. - -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ Millennium hand and shrimp! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQbhsWprNPMCpn3XdAQG1XwP/ZzP+Mq+soAyzhwjmLDFPvswveDxAmbN8 l1bc5c/8HVIwClZ6wDKjDJGF0KjSVrenxIYbLRusV01boYPfl6OPKuTaxmgpbBFv sGpdl/yrOLJsb4pi9omnzeKzYLybXddK4Vp0jdbuMK9Wd3EBa/WmZir/YyTGl/zq 6TDctzSto+c= =TEnN -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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El vie, 10-12-2004 a las 01:13 +, Sebastian Bazley escribi: I find the page useful too. However, it does take rather a long time to load. This is the (in)famous Page Length Tax whose announcement was missed by BenL earlier in the thread. ;-) Might I suggest the following: - split the page into separate pages for each domain and/or - create a page with links to the chart images, instead of including them inline Just a thought. S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Santiago Gala [EMAIL PROTECTED] High Sierra Technology, SLU signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje =?ISO-8859-1?Q?est=E1?= firmada digitalmente
Re: Update to mailing lists page
Hi Ken: The link is very nice! Can you add the cvs mail lists to see the activity of them too? Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo On Jue, 2 de Diciembre de 2004, 6:52, Rodent of Unusual Size dijo: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I've revamped the Apache mailing lists data page a little bit. (http://www.apache.org/~coar/mlists.html) For one thing, the moderator-supplied description for each list has moved to *below* the list statistics. For another, I've added an activity graph for each list. The graph shows subscription and post activity for up to the last 90 samples. Since the sample interval is 1 day, that generally means three months. If samples aren't collected for a week, though, it means the graph will cover 97 days, with the uncollected week's data silently missing from the graph. The graph is for showing trends *only*. Both the post-count and the subscriber-count lines are scaled properly, but each uses its *own* scale to fit nicely into the chart. So you can safely say, 'Cool! More and more people are subscribing!' but not necessarily, 'Cool! Four people subscribed last Tuesday!' I've attached a sample graph from the derby-dev list. - -- #ken P-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ Millennium hand and shrimp! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQa8PkJrNPMCpn3XdAQHOKAP/dxNVOLGkSec/NuccHXGAX4fr1kM4ers9 chBqMYgecqN8jvSPTnOD70PiLEcqZ+rwS6dooM6ZasmZ7AnCe09aPsbTObCREslM hwcmrZHOkTZiY0B4OXQTA5PrB6/tOonxSnxLLUAY0A4quGDgNyJ+anL9I0MmmYby ZcrBTkR8c3E= =na1P -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update to mailing lists page
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Antonio Gallardo wrote: The link is very nice! Can you add the cvs mail lists to see the activity of them too? The page is for *all* public ASF lists. 'Public' meaning 'anyone can subscribe without having to be moderated.' If there are lists that aren't showing up, it means that they require subscriptions to be moderated. - -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ Millennium hand and shrimp! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQbhsWprNPMCpn3XdAQG1XwP/ZzP+Mq+soAyzhwjmLDFPvswveDxAmbN8 l1bc5c/8HVIwClZ6wDKjDJGF0KjSVrenxIYbLRusV01boYPfl6OPKuTaxmgpbBFv sGpdl/yrOLJsb4pi9omnzeKzYLybXddK4Vp0jdbuMK9Wd3EBa/WmZir/YyTGl/zq 6TDctzSto+c= =TEnN -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update to mailing lists page
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Ben Laurie wrote: The usual answer is to put one axis at the left, one at the right. Excellent; that's a useful suggestion for a solution. Done. The left-hand side now shows the highwater mark for subscriptions, and the right-hand side shows it for posts. I must've missed the Page Length Tax announcement ;-) Didn't you hear? Tsk, tsk.. - -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ Millennium hand and shrimp! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQbeHQprNPMCpn3XdAQGgsQP8C35pQjnfgrJtD9mSfPVc9P2v//EuXtD3 eNlAN+5ndMKtbCvNvvwGUAlaX7KYbL+cWv6wjhJu5tJUdN6ZvR98ELAikDN7JtTq ZCwSHqK+s0VjS/BxaHa35/GaqeFbjy2506k1chntRUONKN1W1nY2JmY00jfFnD4R 4h19H+EDd7I= =/zYR -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: this is cool! Any chance we can get labeled x and y axis? No, not unless you can convince of a way to do it that makes sense. As I said, The graph is for showing trends *only*. Both the post-count and the subscriber-count lines are scaled properly, but each uses its *own* scale to fit nicely into the chart. So you can safely say, 'Cool! More and more people are subscribing!' but not necessarily, 'Cool! Four people subscribed last Tuesday!' Trying to put numbers on it would require two sets of numbers, in two colours, on both axes. And to make them legible would require enlarging the image, which would make the page considerably longer. The usual answer is to put one axis at the left, one at the right. I must've missed the Page Length Tax announcement ;-) -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.thebunker.net/ There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit. - Robert Woodruff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update to mailing lists page
this is cool! Any chance we can get labeled x and y axis? On Dec 2, 2004, at 7:52 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I've revamped the Apache mailing lists data page a little bit. (http://www.apache.org/~coar/mlists.html) For one thing, the moderator-supplied description for each list has moved to *below* the list statistics. For another, I've added an activity graph for each list. The graph shows subscription and post activity for up to the last 90 samples. Since the sample interval is 1 day, that generally means three months. If samples aren't collected for a week, though, it means the graph will cover 97 days, with the uncollected week's data silently missing from the graph. The graph is for showing trends *only*. Both the post-count and the subscriber-count lines are scaled properly, but each uses its *own* scale to fit nicely into the chart. So you can safely say, 'Cool! More and more people are subscribing!' but not necessarily, 'Cool! Four people subscribed last Tuesday!' I've attached a sample graph from the derby-dev list. - -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ Millennium hand and shrimp! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQa8PkJrNPMCpn3XdAQHOKAP/dxNVOLGkSec/NuccHXGAX4fr1kM4ers9 chBqMYgecqN8jvSPTnOD70PiLEcqZ+rwS6dooM6ZasmZ7AnCe09aPsbTObCREslM hwcmrZHOkTZiY0B4OXQTA5PrB6/tOonxSnxLLUAY0A4quGDgNyJ+anL9I0MmmYby ZcrBTkR8c3E= =na1P -END PGP SIGNATURE- www.apache.org_~coar_derby- dev_db_apache_org.png- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Echo Geir's this is cool! sentiment. Just to reconfirm, this is public data, correct? That is, I can post a link to this page on my blog, or on one of the public mailing lists itself... Yoav --- Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I've revamped the Apache mailing lists data page a little bit. (http://www.apache.org/~coar/mlists.html) For one thing, the moderator-supplied description for each list has moved to *below* the list statistics. For another, I've added an activity graph for each list. The graph shows subscription and post activity for up to the last 90 samples. Since the sample interval is 1 day, that generally means three months. If samples aren't collected for a week, though, it means the graph will cover 97 days, with the uncollected week's data silently missing from the graph. The graph is for showing trends *only*. Both the post-count and the subscriber-count lines are scaled properly, but each uses its *own* scale to fit nicely into the chart. So you can safely say, 'Cool! More and more people are subscribing!' but not necessarily, 'Cool! Four people subscribed last Tuesday!' I've attached a sample graph from the derby-dev list. - -- #ken P-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ Millennium hand and shrimp! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQa8PkJrNPMCpn3XdAQHOKAP/dxNVOLGkSec/NuccHXGAX4fr1kM4ers9 chBqMYgecqN8jvSPTnOD70PiLEcqZ+rwS6dooM6ZasmZ7AnCe09aPsbTObCREslM hwcmrZHOkTZiY0B4OXQTA5PrB6/tOonxSnxLLUAY0A4quGDgNyJ+anL9I0MmmYby ZcrBTkR8c3E= =na1P -END PGP SIGNATURE- ATTACHMENT part 2 image/png name=www.apache.org/~coar/derby-dev_db_apache_org.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Yoav Shapira wrote: Echo Geir's this is cool! sentiment. Just to reconfirm, this is public data, correct? That is, I can post a link to this page on my blog, or on one of the public mailing lists itself... Correct. There's nothing here that couldn't be scraped from public archives. I'm just getting the date directly from the source rather than scraping. - -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ Millennium hand and shrimp! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQa8vzprNPMCpn3XdAQHeEAQAkwyNxvbmcmmqvYh5c/l+JIhDo9o3FoJC QHiY5fvYCfqNLNQYfgok2N43OSJKCJ3IQ5jNtab9DoxkLhOsXgT+6OIcZSuNbmDD jfN37KbYd7rUyySUdbDPcas4rzkIEqeZzKUEgot7YRbsq3JaJgCHuQiYZoRSWE3z rvRiiKtYg7o= =g9Dj -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update to mailing lists page
Quoting Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: this is cool! Any chance we can get labeled x and y axis? No, not unless you can convince of a way to do it that makes sense. As I said, The graph is for showing trends *only*. Both the post-count and the subscriber-count lines are scaled properly, but each uses its *own* scale to fit nicely into the chart. So you can safely say, 'Cool! More and more people are subscribing!' but not necessarily, 'Cool! Four people subscribed last Tuesday!' Trying to put numbers on it would require two sets of numbers, in two colours, on both axes. And to make them legible would require enlarging the image, which would make the page considerably longer. The second paragraph on the page is contextually removed from the graphs. Personally, I only looked at the graphs and didn't have a clue what the blue lines and red lines meant. Labels without units would be nice. Or just a small key or legend link by each graph which targets the 2nd paragraph (which then should be labelled key or legend). Sorry for so much nit-pickyness. It's really cool to see the work you've put in to this. -- Dave Brondsema : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brondsema.net : personal http://www.splike.com : programming - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
