Re: Openmoko ads on youtube

2007-07-06 Thread ramsesoriginal
18 and 18 are great. WoW. atm i am at work, but another cool idea could be the morphing through all the history of communications: speech, smoke signals, flags, fires, messengers, telegrafs, fone, amateur-radio, and then the openmoko. And the something like: Comunication has always been free. Let

Re: Openmoko videos in Ogg Theora

2007-07-06 Thread Krzysztof Kajkowski
Here you go: http://www.openmoko.org.pl/ads/ cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: AND donate entire Netherlands to OpenStreetMap

2007-07-06 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
From: Frank Coenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AND donate entire Netherlands to OpenStreetMap Message: 5 Whoops. I was to excited to read the rest of the article: India and China as well. That is just mindblowing good news! see:

Re: Quick Question about July 9th.

2007-07-06 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Thursday 05 July 2007 21:00:19 Derick Jones wrote: Will the phones being sold on July 9th be available to anyone interested or only to developers? I am very interested in the phone and just confused as to who can order the phone on the 9th. I get mixed readings from various websites. As

Quick Question about July 9th.

2007-07-06 Thread Derick Jones
Will the phones being sold on July 9th be available to anyone interested or only to developers? I am very interested in the phone and just confused as to who can order the phone on the 9th. I get mixed readings from various websites. Thank You for your time! Derick Jones

Re: Openmoko ads now on youtube

2007-07-06 Thread Vincent
On 05/07/07, Jonas Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Adam Krikstone on 07/04/2007 08:58 PM UTC: Good and bad, here are some ads for openmoko and the neo1973 I did. Sorry for the bad quality on some but there aren't many videos or pictures of the neo1973 besides the wiki. I stayed with

Re: Quick Question about July 9th.

2007-07-06 Thread Al Johnson
Since it's all open source _anyone_ could be a developer, so you're free to buy one. Keep in mind that at this stage there are known bugs in the software, and that many of the apps people take for granted in a consumer phone haven't been written yet. If you plan to develop some of the missing

Debug board and Advanced accessories

2007-07-06 Thread Justyn Butler
It's been asked before but I didn't see a conclusive answer. Will the extra gear, like the debug board, being sold with the GTA01B_v4 Advanced set definitely be the same as will be sold with the GTA02 Advanced? I'd like to get the 01 Advanced then just buy the 02 Base, without missing out on

Re: Location Privacy Protocols, was Re: GPS trail - crazy idea

2007-07-06 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
I don't see why one user would not want to reveal his location, because he already send it regularly, although less precisely, to his telco because that's how GSM works. AFAIK, telcos are then free to use this information commercialy and forced to give all details to the cops when asked to,

RE: Quick Question about July 9th.

2007-07-06 Thread Lavergne Thomas
And another related question. Iperfectly known that, in his present state, the neo1973 is far from a usable phone, and personnaly I like to have one for developement. But does the phone part usable ? i.e. is it possible to make and receive phone call. I don't talk about full contact list or

Re: Location Privacy Protocols, was Re: GPS trail - crazy idea

2007-07-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 06 July 2007 15:05, cedric cellier wrote: -[ Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 01:30:48PM -0400, Paul Wouters ] Especially, an implementation of the Pierre protocol would be interesting. In essence, using the protocol, two people can reveal each others location but only when they are

Re: Quick Question about July 9th.

2007-07-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 06 July 2007 15:34, Lavergne Thomas wrote: And another related question. Iperfectly known that, in his present state, the neo1973 is far from a usable phone, and personnaly I like to have one for developement. But does the phone part usable ? i.e. is it possible to make and receive

Re:Quick Question about July 9th.

2007-07-06 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Derick Jones writes: Will the phones being sold on July 9th be available to anyone interested or only to developers? I am very interested in the phone and just confused as to who can order the phone on the 9th. I get mixed readings from various websites. Available to anyone, but it's questionable

openmoko and gnuradio

2007-07-06 Thread Juan Cañete
Hi people, i've just find out this amazing project, and one thing i wonder is if there should be posible (or maybe openmoko is thinking already about this) to design a mobile phone with the necesary hardware to run gnuradio. with that kind of architecture we could access all the rf spectrum so

Re: openmoko and gnuradio

2007-07-06 Thread Ian Stirling
Juan Cañete wrote: Hi people, i've just find out this amazing project, and one thing i wonder is if there should be posible (or maybe openmoko is thinking already about this) to design a mobile phone with the necesary hardware to run gnuradio. with that kind of architecture we could access all

Re: openmoko and gnuradio

2007-07-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 06 July 2007 18:04, Ian Stirling wrote: Juan Cañete wrote: Hi people, i've just find out this amazing project, and one thing i wonder is if there should be posible (or maybe openmoko is thinking already about this) to design a mobile phone with the necesary hardware to run

Re: How many women on OpenMoko?

2007-07-06 Thread Colin A. White
wow... an unnecessarily hostile response. It goes a long way to explaining why the answer to the OP is girls = 1. You don't need to be a Human Factors expert to know that men and women respond differently to design cues. For all the men on this list to assume that women are going to love their

Openmoko made it on Engadgetmobile

2007-07-06 Thread Eric Heinemann
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/07/06/openmoko-neo-1973-developer-kits-available-july-9/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Location Privacy Protocols, was Re: GPS trail - crazy idea

2007-07-06 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At the moment the telcos don't seem to be making their subscribers' locations freely available. If they did I would probably keep my phone turned off until I needed it, because I don't trust everybody to be nice. Location-based marketing would be

Re: Openmoko videos in Ogg Theora

2007-07-06 Thread Pavlov Konstantin
On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 12:24:53AM -0400, Fabian Rodriguez wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi, I really enjoyed the OpenMoko videos. I converted the existing ones to Ogg Theora: http://people.ubuntu.com/~magicfab/video/openmoko/ If anyone can mirror them I

Re: Location Privacy Protocols, was Re: GPS trail - crazy idea

2007-07-06 Thread Tim Newsom
On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:25, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Another good reason from an open-source product. Maybe there is a vast untapped market for selling open-source phones to the governments of the world (to protect them from the other governments of the word. ;-)) -wolfgang Except that as

How many women on OpenMoko?

2007-07-06 Thread Cindy
I agree that an interesting demographic is the non-techies. I don't think women vs men is as clear a divider as techies vs non-techies. I am a woman and recently do UI, but I spent most of my career until recently doing embedded designs. I am following this project very closely. I can't wait

EDGE, lack of 3G and keyboard

2007-07-06 Thread BJ Quinn
A couple of semi-related questions-- First of all, I was wondering if the lack of 3G support could be addressed for the neo1973 in the future without having to buy all new hardware. Maybe this sounds stupid, but I was wondering if when openmoko starts working with 3G hardware if the 3G

Feds snub open source for 'smart' radios

2007-07-06 Thread mathew davis
Here is an article I stubled upon while reading slash dot. http://news.com.com/Feds+snub+open+source+for+smart+radios/2100-1041_3-6195102.html?tag=nefd.lede It doesn't affect the neo1973 coming to america does it? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re:Feds snub open source for 'smart' radios

2007-07-06 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
mathew davis writes: Here is an article I stubled upon while reading slash dot. http://news.com.com/Feds+snub+open+source+for+smart+radios/2100-1041_3-6195102.html?tag=nefd.lede It doesn't affect the neo1973 coming to america does it? I wouldn't expect it to -- the GSM radio chip itself is closed

Neo 1973 release time

2007-07-06 Thread andy selby
Just in case your worried about being at work when openmoko.com goes live, here's a handy website http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Input the 9th and Taiwan into the field to 'convert from' and input your location into the 'convert to' fields. Assuming openmoko goes live at

Neo 1973 release time

2007-07-06 Thread andy selby
Just in case your worried about being at work when openmoko.com goes live, here's a handy website http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Input the 9th and Taiwan into the field to 'convert from' and input your location into the 'convert to' fields. Assuming openmoko goes live at

Re: Feds snub open source for 'smart' radios

2007-07-06 Thread Ian Stirling
mathew davis wrote: Here is an article I stubled upon while reading slash dot. http://news.com.com/Feds+snub+open+source+for+smart+radios/2100-1041_3-6195102.html?tag=nefd.lede http://news.com.com/Feds+snub+open+source+for+smart+radios/2100-1041_3-6195102.html?tag=nefd.lede It doesn't affect

Re: Feds snub open source for 'smart' radios

2007-07-06 Thread Brad Midgley
Hey This got me thinking about how flexible the radio is. Is the sim card wired right into the gsm module? It would be nice if the phone could play nice with sim access profile (SAP) either by sharing the sim credentials with another device or by gaining sim credentials from another device and

Re: How many women on OpenMoko?

2007-07-06 Thread Nick Johnson
On 7/7/07, Colin A. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... an unnecessarily hostile response. It goes a long way to explaining why the answer to the OP is girls = 1. You don't need to be a Human Factors expert to know that men and women respond differently to design cues. For all the men on

Re: Feds snub open source for 'smart' radios

2007-07-06 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Ian Stirling writes: This is _NOT_ security by obscurity. This is an attempt at making transmitters that can do very bad things in the hands of users harder to obtain. You've got some good points (which I've snipped), but it is *exactly* security by obscurity. The released radio can do illegal

Server trouble?

2007-07-06 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
I've now received quite a few copies of Andy Selby's comments on what time the NEO will be released, as well as Nick Johnson's message wanting UI designers involved. Are we having trouble with our server? They're both from gmail -- is there a gmail problem?