Re: Chinese input for OpenMoko

2007-08-14 Thread Torsten Wagner
Hi Shu Hung, Shu Hung (Koala) schrieb: Hello, OpenMoko is developed and produced in Taiwan. And I live in HK. Both places uses Chinese as the common language. I would say if this would be a standard commercial product, you are out of luck. I don't need to tell you how many products are

Re: Chinese input for OpenMoko

2007-08-14 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 08/14/2007 Torsten Wagner wrote: Hi Shu Hung, Shu Hung (Koala) schrieb: Hello, OpenMoko is developed and produced in Taiwan. And I live in HK. Both places uses Chinese as the common language. I would say if this would be a standard commercial product, you are out of luck. I

Re: Neo1973 Phase 1 sales / order process / misconception

2007-08-14 Thread vivek khurana
On 8/7/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because such a website, especially if it is to fulfill our security and privacy concerns, needs quite a bit of development time. There are several developers on the list with experience in ecommerce + supply cahin management. We are willing to

Fingerscroll, foofone and more from people.openmoko.org!

2007-08-14 Thread Santiago Crespo
There are some nice media from people.openmoko.org: Fingerscroll foofone: http://people.openmoko.org/jserv/graphics/video/ AGPS video: http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/AGPS_Neo1973.mp4 Inside this, there is a song from Openmoko Ringtones album:

Re: Fingerscroll, foofone and more from people.openmoko.org!

2007-08-14 Thread Florent THIERY
Fingerscroll foofone: http://people.openmoko.org/jserv/graphics/video/ Wow. This is clutter running inside qemu... Anybody tried running it in software rendering on a real device? Florent ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Neo1973 Phase 1 sales / order process / misconception

2007-08-14 Thread kent
On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 07:20:47PM +0530, vivek khurana wrote: On 8/7/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because such a website, especially if it is to fulfill our security and privacy concerns, needs quite a bit of development time. There are several developers on the list

mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Dean Collins
Now that the product is launched and you have (or maybe not) some breathing space can we finally get this mailing list configured properly. At the front of each mailing should be a subject pre-fix that says the title of the mailing list e.g. [OpenMoko-Community]: mailing list

Re: Neo1973 Phase 1 sales / order process / misconception

2007-08-14 Thread vivek khurana
On 8/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is always a great deal more complicated than just asking for help. Well dear most of are working/have worked in projects which drain even last bit out. But we still manage deliveries and reduce the delays. I am not saying that openmoko

Re: Using Qemu

2007-08-14 Thread Giles Jones
Mathew Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I am at the point where it is asking me to calibrate the screen by clicking the crosshair, but I can#39;t click it.nbsp; I think someone has made changes, I had a heck of a time clicking it last night. You have to just stick at it, click it about 5 or 6

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Santiago Crespo
El mar, 14-08-2007 a las 11:46 -0400, Dean Collins escribió: Now that the product is launched and you have (or maybe not) some breathing space can we finally get this mailing list configured properly. At the front of each mailing should be a subject pre-fix that says the title of the

Re: Using Qemu

2007-08-14 Thread Jimmy McMillan
Mathew Davis wrote: I don't know if this is the right place to ask this or not, I didn't think it was a development question more of a general use question. I got the Openmoko_Dev VM and I ran through the makefile setup and got qemu up and running by typing make run-qemu, it took forever but

Re: Fingerscroll, foofone and more from people.openmoko.org!

2007-08-14 Thread Krzysztof Kajkowski
2007/8/14, Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fingerscroll foofone: http://people.openmoko.org/jserv/graphics/video/ Wow. This is clutter running inside qemu... Anybody tried running it in software rendering on a real device? I run 2007.2 and 'kinetic' scrolling works very wel. cayco

Re: Using Qemu

2007-08-14 Thread Mathew Davis
Dang reply button well I accidentally sent this just to Jmmy I was trying to avoid re-flashing and re-building because it takes so long to re-start. So I tried the clicking about a million times, but no luck so I am trying make download-images and am currently waiting for the qemu environment to

RE: Using Qemu

2007-08-14 Thread John Seghers
Jimmy McMillan wrote: Matthew. I was having the same problems for a while, but I found that after I restarted the ubuntu VM, and started the qemu string (after it was build) it worked fine for me. You make also wanna do another svn fetch and start from scratch. Another thing I've found

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Casey Harkins
hank williams wrote: I think that this is not useful at all. Actually it would be quite useful. Without such a header I am unable to *visually* distinguish between this and other mailing lists or mail. Filters are useful for organizing, but I personally prefer to see my whole inbox

RE: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Dean Collins
I do run filtering in Outlook - but I run it on subject - less processor intensive. And thanks Casey - I also subscribe to about 5 or 6 other lists and they all have subject prefixes as well (and much larger more frequent lists than openmoko) It's a little thing but it's silly not to get

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Chris Kuethe
On 8/14/07, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that this is not useful at all. Actually it would be quite useful. +1 for tagging the subject. -- GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too? ___ OpenMoko community mailing

Re: Using Qemu

2007-08-14 Thread Jimmy McMillan
Matthew, Like I said, I had the same problem you are for about a week and finally rebuilt everything as mentioned on the wiki. Here is my screeny as well as my `history`. http://www.freshstation.org/~mintee/openmoko.jpg Hope that helps Mathew Davis wrote: Dang reply button well I

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Jimmy McMillan
Chris Kuethe wrote: On 8/14/07, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that this is not useful at all. Actually it would be quite useful. +1 for tagging the subject. I second that. How about [om-community]-$subject ___

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Casey Harkins
Dean Collins wrote: I do run filtering in Outlook - but I run it on subject - less processor intensive. How is filtering on subject less processor intensive than using mailing list headers? And thanks Casey - I also subscribe to about 5 or 6 other lists and they all have subject

Re: Fingerscroll, foofone and more from people.openmoko.org!

2007-08-14 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Tuesday 14 August 2007 15:52:04 Santiago Crespo wrote: There are some nice media from people.openmoko.org: Fingerscroll foofone: http://people.openmoko.org/jserv/graphics/video/ Foofone is neat. But it doesn't seem very obvious to use the star to have it start calling?

Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Jim McDonald
hank williams wrote: Oops. As usual I hit reply to and it went to casey personally Its broken. Just so that the 'silent majority' don't lose out on this one, I would like to point out that there are approximately 1,500 people subscribed to this list. Can we assume that unless we hear from

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Daniel Mewes
Well this is probably the wrong place for a whole-community poll about this topic, but let me say that if the majority here really wants subject tagging, than please put the tag at the end of the subject! I use pager notification for my e-mails and text paging in Germany has a very limited message

RE: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Dean Collins
Lol - yep shortly followed by the human race all moving back to wearing skins and living in rock caves. Doing nothing as a 'reason' is about as dumb as you can get. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). -Original

mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread hank williams
Oops again. That reply to thing is a bitch. -- Forwarded message -- From: hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Aug 14, 2007 4:52 PM Subject: Re: mailing list management To: Daniel Mewes [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use pager notification for my e-mails and text paging in Germany has a

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Giles Jones
On 14 Aug 2007, at 21:35, Dean Collins wrote: Lol - yep shortly followed by the human race all moving back to wearing skins and living in rock caves. Doing nothing as a 'reason' is about as dumb as you can get. They have the discussions all the time on the Linux Kernel list, people

RE: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Heilpern, Mark
No vote != no change. No vote = don't care. Personally I don't care, but I don't feel my apathy should lend strength to one side of the argument or another. Incidentally, my lack of caring is only relevant to the subject line. I do feel the reply-to should be changed to reply to the list

Re: Using Qemu

2007-08-14 Thread Mathew Davis
Ok I am obviously doing something wrong. I tried re-building the environment already. Here are the steps I took so let me know if I missed something. First I ran make download-images, I then ran make flash-qemu-official then I ran make setup and then ran make run-qemu. It boots up and get's to

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Ortwin Regel
Learn to use Gmail. Also it's relevant for everything where you can only see the first X letters of a topic in your list of emails. Like pretty much every mail client and webmail interface out there. So adding the tags to the end of the subject line is a pretty good idea which I could live with

Re: Using Qemu

2007-08-14 Thread Mathew Davis
Ok running through the process again I noticed something I was missing before. I am getting the following error svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svnroot/mokomakefile/trunk/patcher' svn: PROPFIND of '/svnroot/mokomakefile/trunk/patches': Not Implemented ( http://svn.nslu2-linux.org) could that

Re: USB host

2007-08-14 Thread Bradley Hook
** * Moko * ** | - USB Mini Jack | |\ - Splice the Power from the hub to feed Neo | \ | \ | - USB-B Jack \ **| * Hub *| **| | | - USB-A (Power from

Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Rod Whitby
Dean Collins wrote: Lol - yep shortly followed by the human race all moving back to wearing skins and living in rock caves. Actually, filtering on Subject is the caveman thing to do. :-) The following headers are *specifically* added by the mailing list software to enable you to accurately

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Scott Rushforth
Most good mail filters, such as sieve (http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/sieve/index.html) provide a _multitude_ of ways to filter messages. Including by headers or recipients (or a combination, etc). I highly recommend sieve if you have means to run a mail server, or are already are. cheers

Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Christian Tschabuschnig
Jim McDonald wrote: Just so that the 'silent majority' don't lose out on this one, I would like to point out that there are approximately 1,500 people subscribed to this list. Can we assume that unless we hear from them their vote is 'no change'? There are pros and cons to each system, but

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Allan Savolainen
On 15.8.2007, at 0.35, Christian Tschabuschnig wrote: I am a member of the 'silent majority' - this is my first post - and, yes, please leave it as it is. And another 'pls don't change it'. One would think that in this day and age all mail clients are able to filter, tag, color and/or

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Ian Darwin
Best feature would be a Eliza bot in mailman that automagically goes through this discussion without bothering the subscribers to the list :) Now that's the best contribution to this whole discussion. Since no 12 developers will ever agree on subject line munging, top/bottom posting, or

Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread hank williams
Do the people suggesting these changes think that they really know better about how this list should be set up? Yup. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Mike Hodson
Look I'll vote for not changing the subject line; headers are wonderful for sorting. However, when I wish to reply -to the list-, I get a choice of either -to the sender- or -to the list, sender AND anyone else the bloody sender sent it to- instead of simply replying -to the list-. While the

Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Rod Whitby
Mike Hodson wrote: Why not reply to all? Because im rather sure I don't want to reply to the author twice (as he apparently is on the list) and I don't want to reply to anyone else the author sent the mail to. There appears to be no other way to use this client than simply 1 or all, not