Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-22 Thread Andy Powell
On Tuesday 22 April 2008 07:29, Andy Powell wrote: x230 actually replace x230 with x115 - i think the slightly smaller thumbs are better... -- Andy / ScaredyCat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-22 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:19:58 +0200, Jeremy List [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be very surprised if there was any law in New Zealand against importing things with foreign power plugs as a few years ago I bought a palm treo which required an adaptor. Adaptors for devices which have the wrong

Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-22 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:29:17 +0200, Andy Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #!/bin/bash echo index.html for i in *.jpg do convert -thumbnail x230 $i thumb_$i echo a href='$i' target='_new$i'img src='thumb_$i'/a index.html done The img tag is missing the right angle bracket, and the

Re: Freerunner AC adaptor

2008-04-22 Thread David Pottage
On Tue, April 22, 2008 5:19 am, Jeremy List wrote: I would be very surprised if there was any law in New Zealand against importing things with foreign power plugs as a few years ago I bought a palm treo which required an adaptor. Adaptors for devices which have the wrong shape of plug but

Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-22 Thread NeoSleg
You can also use my php web page : http://www.tsleg.com/galleries/openmoko If people have other interesting pictures, feel free to add them here. I also can give the php sources. PS : Sorry the send button is in French : Envoyer = send On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:57:48 +0100, Andy Powell

Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-22 Thread Mikael Lammentausta
Why not just simply cd to_images igal And there you have it! :) On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:29:17 +0200, Andy Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #!/bin/bash ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-22 Thread Daniel Selinger
hmm, a question regarding the stylus. i have a mda compact now, which has where you can store the stylus in the case of the phone, like most pdas with windoze on it. the stylus on the pics doesn't really look like if it could fit somewhere i the phone. does this mean i always have to carry it

Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-22 Thread Jay Vaughan
And then there also is a hardware solutions. A very generic one, available in any half-decent hardware store. I think they call 'm cutting pliers and will make sure those leds will never be turned on again... I've got DuctTape 1.0 running on mine, it fixes the LED issues. ; -- Jay

Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-22 Thread NeoSleg
I agree with you. I think it could be better if we could store the stylus into the phone. The good point is that we can do most of things with the finger, and we won't need the stylus everytime we will use the phone. But it's a feature I would like to see in the GTA03 version. On Tue, 22

Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-22 Thread Andy Powell
On Tuesday 22 April 2008 09:03, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:29:17 +0200, Andy Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #!/bin/bash echo index.html for i in *.jpg do convert -thumbnail x230 $i thumb_$i echo a href='$i' target='_new$i'img src='thumb_$i'/a

Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-22 Thread Andy Powell
On Tuesday 22 April 2008 09:29, Mikael Lammentausta wrote: Why not just simply cd to_images igal And there you have it! :) bash: igal: command not found :) -- Andy / ScaredyCat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-22 Thread Mikael Lammentausta
You have the source! http://trexler.at/igal/igal-1.4.7-wt.tar.gz ;-) 2008/4/22, Andy Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 22 April 2008 09:29, Mikael Lammentausta wrote: Why not just simply cd to_images igal And there you have it! :) bash: igal: command not found :) --

Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-22 Thread Andy Powell
On Tuesday 22 April 2008 10:12, Mikael Lammentausta wrote: You have the source! http://trexler.at/igal/igal-1.4.7-wt.tar.gz ;-) why is there no igal for igal :P -- Andy / ScaredyCat ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-22 Thread Mikael Lammentausta
All right, here are the Freerunner pics in igal :) http://openlab.savonia-amk.fi/freerunner/ 2008/4/22, Andy Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 22 April 2008 10:12, Mikael Lammentausta wrote: You have the source! http://trexler.at/igal/igal-1.4.7-wt.tar.gz ;-) why is there no

Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-22 Thread Andy Powell
On Tuesday 22 April 2008 11:22, Mikael Lammentausta wrote: All right, here are the Freerunner pics in igal :) http://openlab.savonia-amk.fi/freerunner/ pretty pretty :D -- Andy / ScaredyCat ___ Openmoko community mailing list

The big day.

2008-04-22 Thread Nicanor Babula
Hello everyone! When will be available this beloved device? April is almost gone. Any approximation is welcome. Thanx. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: The big day.

2008-04-22 Thread Vedran Alajbegović
Until that day comes, i wish someone gives me some links where i can start exploring Open Moko p.s. Is far as i understood, there is emulator that can emulate Open Moko environment on a PC can someone give me some link where i can start with that if there is such a thing!? I tried to find but

Re: The big day.

2008-04-22 Thread Georg Michelitsch
Nicanor Babula wrote on 04/22/2008 03:58 PM: Hello everyone! When will be available this beloved device? April is almost gone. Any approximation is welcome. Thanx. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: The big day.

2008-04-22 Thread Tilman Baumann
Vedran Alajbegović wrote: Until that day comes, i wish someone gives me some links where i can start exploring Open Moko wiki.openmoko.org p.s. Is far as i understood, there is emulator that can emulate Open Moko environment on a PC can someone give me some link where i can start with that if

Re: The big day.

2008-04-22 Thread Vedran Alajbegović
Thank you Tilman QEMU was what i needed On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vedran Alajbegović wrote: Until that day comes, i wish someone gives me some links where i can start exploring Open Moko wiki.openmoko.org p.s. Is far as i understood,

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Cesar Eduardo Barros
Dylan Semler escreveu: Wait, no guitar pick? Shouldn't you get the guitar pick with the debug board, since its main use is to plug the debug board? It makes more sense than putting it in the phone box. This, of course, leads to a separate question: what will ship in the debug board's box?

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Antoine Reid
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dylan Semler escreveu: Wait, no guitar pick? Shouldn't you get the guitar pick with the debug board, since its main use is to plug the debug board? It makes more sense than putting it in the phone box.

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Tilman Baumann
Antoine Reid wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dylan Semler escreveu: Wait, no guitar pick? Shouldn't you get the guitar pick with the debug board, since its main use is to plug the debug

QEMU slooooow

2008-04-22 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
Hi List just wondering if everyone else is suffering from a veeey slow operation in qemu openmoko. First it takes 10 minutes too boot and then trying the applications like calendar or entering telephon numbers is so slow that I never got past one entry. As I have not really seen any

Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-22 Thread Vincent
On 4/22/08, Mikael Lammentausta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All right, here are the Freerunner pics in igal :) http://openlab.savonia-amk.fi/freerunner/ I couldn't resist :) http://www.23hq.com/Vincentt/firstfreerunnerpics (I've got a View as slideshow link on the right :) -- Vincent

Re: QEMU slooooow

2008-04-22 Thread Tomas Gustavsson
I totally agree with you. I have tried OpenMoko several times through QEMU but the waiting has been unreasonable long so the testing doesn't last very long... 2008/4/22, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi List just wondering if everyone else is suffering from a veeey slow

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Cesar Eduardo Barros
Tilman Baumann escreveu: Antoine Reid wrote: Don't you need to open the case to insert the battery, the SIM card and the SD card? Or am I mistaken here? Do you need to remove another panel to get to the debug board connector? This was at least so with the Neo 1973. The battery, SIM and

Re: QEMU slooooow

2008-04-22 Thread Rune Gangstø
I've noticed the same thing. I haven't tried it for a long time, so I can't say if it's just some other options in QEMU. If anyone knows anything, please share with us. 2008/4/22, Tomas Gustavsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I totally agree with you. I have tried OpenMoko several times through QEMU but

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Tilman Baumann
Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote: Getting to the debug port, at least as described in the wiki, needs both the torx screwdriver and the guitar pick. Ah, so this is what the pick is for. Thx. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

DLP Pico Projector

2008-04-22 Thread Vedran Alajbegović
I posted same question on development group, but i see that community list is more active now :) --- I get more interested to Open Moko after presentation of Harald in DORS(in Croatia - this mounth) I just want to ask, did anyone think about integrating DLP Pico Projector in following

Re: QEMU slooooow

2008-04-22 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Rune Gangstø [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed the same thing. I haven't tried it for a long time, so I can't say if it's just some other options in QEMU. If anyone knows anything, please share with us. 2008/4/22, Tomas Gustavsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I

Group Sales in Canada

2008-04-22 Thread Gerald A
A small group of us in Canada have started a Group Sales effort: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Canada So far, everyone is in the GTA (Ontario), but paying to ship the smaller packages within Canada should be much less expensive. Sign up on the wiki or drop me a note if you are

Re: DLP Pico Projector

2008-04-22 Thread James Olney
That is way cool! see: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware#Micro_Projector On 22/04/2008, Vedran Alajbegović [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted same question on development group, but i see that community list is more active now :) --- I get more interested to Open Moko after

Re: DLP Pico Projector

2008-04-22 Thread Vedran Alajbegović
i hope that there will be no restrictions to get this DLP Pico Projector part from Texas Instruments.. as it is case with 3G module 2008/4/22 James Olney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That is way cool! see: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware#Micro_Projector On 22/04/2008, Vedran

Re: QEMU slooooow

2008-04-22 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 AFAIK the emulator emulates the hardware of the neo. This is of course not very effiicient because the neo uses non X86-architecture. On my desktop-pc (AMD XP 3000+) qemu is also unusable slow. On my laptop (Core2Duo 1,86) it is a lot faster

Re: DLP Pico Projector

2008-04-22 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As Homer Simpson would say: hrr I'd love to have this chio in gta03, but i guess, that it will be too expensive to integrate it, also in 2 years. :-( Vedran Alajbegović schrieb: | I posted same question on development group, but i see that

Re: QEMU slooooow

2008-04-22 Thread Tilman Baumann
Eildert Groeneveld wrote: Hi List just wondering if everyone else is suffering from a veeey slow operation in qemu openmoko. First it takes 10 minutes too boot and then trying the applications like calendar or entering telephon numbers is so slow that I never got past one entry. As

Openmoko becomes more and more visible

2008-04-22 Thread Sven Klomp
Hi, at the International Congress Open Source meets Industry (http://www.osadl.org/International-Congress-Open-Source-mee.hannover-2008-congress.0.html) some famous Open Source developer gave talks. Alan Cox mentioned to the question What will be the future of Open Source among other things

LED as Wifi indicator

2008-04-22 Thread Sam Collyer
Don't know whether this is a stupid question or not but I'd like to be able to see if their is a wifi conection I could connect to without the screen being on, is it possible (has it been done) to get the LED to flash more rapidly or brighter if Wifi is accessible, just a way of scavenging for

Re: LED as Wifi indicator

2008-04-22 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 22 April 2008, Sam Collyer wrote: Don't know whether this is a stupid question or not but I'd like to be able to see if their is a wifi conection I could connect to without the screen being on, is it possible (has it been done) to get the LED to flash more rapidly or brighter if

Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto

2008-04-22 Thread Sander Hoentjen
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 23:13 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: I recalled there was already some discussion about this, and after reading through something like 300 mails ( xD ) i found this thread: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/007112.html So, free your phone could be

RE: Openmoko sounds, Motto

2008-04-22 Thread steve
Open. Mobile. Free. is the tagline It captures our culture. OPEN, GPL code; MOBILE, focus on the unwired life; FREE, no charge for the OS. That tagline will not change. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans L Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008

RE: LED as Wifi indicator

2008-04-22 Thread steve
not a stupid question. this is an active area of research. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Collyer Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:47 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: LED as Wifi indicator Don't know whether this is a stupid

Re: DLP Pico Projector

2008-04-22 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love to have this chio in gta03, but i guess, that it will be too expensive to integrate it, also in 2 years. :-( It can be an external accessory for now. (A linked video there was showing a separate projector hooked

Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto

2008-04-22 Thread enaut
I disagree. open Moko is much more than free of charge. Maybe Open, Mobile, Infinit Open - to let you know! Mobile - to let you move! Infinit - to mach your creativity! my thought :P steve schrieb: Open. Mobile. Free. is the tagline It captures our culture. OPEN, GPL code; MOBILE, focus on

Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto

2008-04-22 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:01:50 +0200, Hans L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also since Openmoko allows users to turn their device into whatever they can dream of, something like: Open to interpretation might be another cool motto. This one is seriously cool, especially because it's got more than

RE: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread steve
yes, is my favorite word -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Maxious Sadleir Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:34 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Steve on V5 versus v6 There's vector (EPS

Open Moko (proposed) tagline Open Up

2008-04-22 Thread Ron K. Jeffries
Hans, Open up makes sounds like what the OBGYN doctor says to my wife when he starts an exam. sorry -- TASTELESS but I could not resist. I am banning myself for, uh24 hours. with a smile, -rj CONTEXT From: Hans L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion hello

RE: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread steve
I am headed to the hospital. I need stitches in tongue. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Darwin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:19 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Steve on V5 versus v6 No, no, you should

Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto

2008-04-22 Thread Tomas Di Domenico
Actually, I'd say that GPL would be more correctly associated to free than open. It's a shame that free in english is primarily associated to free as in beer in this context, though, which causes all the controversy already discussed around Free your phone. I love that motto :'( On Tue, Apr 22,

RE: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread steve
Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. hehe. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Barkalow Sent: Monday, April

Re: DLP Pico Projector

2008-04-22 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
I discovered this a few years ago: http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/336/C9601/ -- Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Join the FSF as an Associate Member at: URL:http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=5774 Free

What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Travis Tabbal
The Wiki didn't really answer what works and how well it works. I'm wondering what plans people are currently using. All the info I find is about specific phones, like Blackberry and Sidekick, nothing really generic. Can we just add, say the Sidekick option from T-Mobile and get data access? The

Reading contacts from SIM address book

2008-04-22 Thread Pranav Desai
Hello, I am working on April 21 Snapshot. I am not able to see the SIM card contacts in my Contacts list. I believe there was a bug #1238 assigned and resolved for this issue. So am I missing some steps or should it have been an automatic process ? I haven't tried this in any previous images,

Re: 99

2008-04-22 Thread Jonathan Spooner
I was being sarcastic. The $399 moko will somehow end up nearer 399 euro for those over the pond. its the same with all electronic goods over here. Jon Spooner Michele Renda wrote: 1 $ = 0.70 euro + tva = 0.84 euro != 4 euro Jonathan Spooner wrote: Oh great so in Europe that will

Re: DLP Pico Projector

2008-04-22 Thread Vedran Alajbegović
:( All this worth nothing for Open Moko unless we/someone puts it together and make it useful!? Does anyone have any idea about that!? On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I discovered this a few years ago:

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Ian Darwin
steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary photos did chew up one of the pouches sent in

Re: DLP Pico Projector

2008-04-22 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I discovered this a few years ago: http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/336/C9601/ Yeah sounds familiar. I think a mirror with single-axis rotation would be rather like the technology used in the Private Eye

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Ian Darwin wrote: steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary photos did chew up one of

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Travis Tabbal
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Clinton Ebadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With T-Mobile you can get a base voice plan and then add either T-Mobile Internet (unlimited GPRS) or T-Mobile Total Internet (unlimited GPRS and Hotspot access) for $20 a month. Naturally the latter is a better deal

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Travis Tabbal wrote: Has the 850Mhz issue been resolved? The Freerunner will be sold in 850/1800/1900 tri-band, and 900/1800/1900 tri-band models. You'll have to specify which model you want when you order. -id ___ Openmoko community mailing

bulk order question

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Steve, I understand about the discount on the bulk order of 10 Freerunners, but do all 10 have to be the same tri-band mode, ie: 10 of the 850/1800/1900 phones or 10 of the 900/1800/1900 phones, or can we mix and match as long as we have 10 phones in the box? -id

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Kevin Dean
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Travis Tabbal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info. T-Mobile seems to have good coverage here. It sounds like the Total Internet plan is the way to go. I'm looking forward to the release of Freerunner. I love being able to add/change software on my

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Travis Tabbal
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That issues actually confuses the hell out of me. :) Per the wiki Will a modification to my Neo 1973 (GTA01bv4) be possible? As of Feb 08, it has been confirmed by OpenMoko that this is not possible (

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Travis Tabbal
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:40 PM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Travis Tabbal wrote: Has the 850Mhz issue been resolved? The Freerunner will be sold in 850/1800/1900 tri-band, and 900/1800/1900 tri-band models. You'll have to specify which model you want when you order. Thank

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Michael Shiloh
steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. *Groan!* ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Michael Shiloh
Ian Darwin wrote: steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary photos did chew up one of

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Michael Shiloh
ian douglas wrote: Ian Darwin wrote: steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary photos

GTA03 wish list (was: What US plans are people using?)

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Travis Tabbal wrote: Of course, a quad band setup would be preferred Hey OpenMoko team, has anyone started a wish-list for the GTA03 yet? - true quad-band - a place to hide a stylus - anti pooch pouch poaching device ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Travis Tabbal wrote: This implies that a GTA01bv4 can NOT use 850 mhz. But my Neo1973 works PERFECTLY in the USA, which means either it DOES support 850mhz OR that the LACK of 850mhz is irrelevant. As I understand it, 850 will matter or not depending on where you live and what

Re: Freerunner AC adaptor

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Just as a comparison, since my workplace just got me a Blackberry World Phone (8830), here's a photo of the power adapters that come with it, which I guess connect to the standard American power plug. http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2435261066/ For what it's worth, the

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box will the following at least. I'm still sorting through some issues. 1. phone. 2. Battery 3. Custom Charger 4. Sdcard. 5. Stylus. 6. USB cable.

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Brandon Kruger
On Tue April 22 2008 3:52:28 pm Travis Tabbal wrote: The Wiki didn't really answer what works and how well it works. I'm wondering what plans people are currently using. All the info I find is about specific phones, like Blackberry and Sidekick, nothing really generic. Can we just add, say the

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Brandon Kruger wrote: I have the Media Net Unlimited package which gives me unlimied data usage for $15/month. Just try not to let them know it's for a PDA-ish device or they may try to make you get the $60 equivalent for PDAs instead. The $60 equivalent includes tethering which lets you

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Ben Burdette
How did you get the plan to begin with? Surely they didn't just give you a SIM card, did you already have another phone or did you buy a cheap phone? Brandon Kruger wrote: I have the Media Net Unlimited package which gives me unlimied data usage for $15/month. Just try not to let them

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
If you already have a capable phone, I don't see why they wouldn't just sell you just the SIM card and data/voice plan. Ben Burdette wrote: How did you get the plan to begin with? Surely they didn't just give you a SIM card, did you already have another phone or did you buy a cheap phone?

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Brandon Kruger
On Tue April 22 2008 8:20:42 pm Ben Burdette wrote: How did you get the plan to begin with? Surely they didn't just give you a SIM card, did you already have another phone or did you buy a cheap phone? Brandon Kruger wrote: I have the Media Net Unlimited package which gives me unlimied

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Brandon Kruger wrote: It may not be allowed in the fine print, but I never had any problems tethering my A707 with that plan to my laptop over BT or USB. The sales guy I talked to at ATT back in December said they can catch this behavior by monitoring your data transfer behavior, and charge

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Brandon Kruger
On Tue April 22 2008 9:13:00 pm ian douglas wrote: Brandon Kruger wrote: It may not be allowed in the fine print, but I never had any problems tethering my A707 with that plan to my laptop over BT or USB. The sales guy I talked to at ATT back in December said they can catch this behavior

Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto

2008-04-22 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Tomas Di Domenico wrote: Actually, I'd say that GPL would be more correctly associated to free than open. It's a shame that free in english is primarily associated to free as in beer in this context, though, which causes all the controversy already discussed around Free your phone. I love that

Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto

2008-04-22 Thread Gilbert Hartmann
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Tomas Di Domenico wrote: Actually, I'd say that GPL would be more correctly associated to free than open. It's a shame that free in english is primarily associated to free as in beer in this context, though, which causes all the controversy already discussed

Re: group sales nz

2008-04-22 Thread Jeremy List
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin Paulson wrote: there's been a few people here mention new zealand - if anyone is interested in a group buy, there are 2 of us already: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#New_Zealand we're both jafas, but even if we had to post on