Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-22 Thread Michele Renda
Hi Dirk, If the Freerunner is only about earning money, I think I will buy another phone, not FR that is neither Umts. Openmoko is not doing charity, but he want to follow some principles. In these principles there is also the choose to show us a part of internal process. If he was

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-22 Thread Lorn Potter
On Thursday 22 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had some further discussions with headquarters, and have edited my blog to try to explain the new software a little better. The important facts are that the new software: * Switches the Window Manager from Matchbox to

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Philippe Guillebert
Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano wrote: Rodolphe Ortalo ha scritto: Bonjour! [...] Well i'm glad to see that you can talk french but this is a public ml and not everybody know frenc (me for example) so i (and other people) can't understand anything of what you said. So please talk in english,

Re: Switch from GTK to QT (was: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions)

2008-05-22 Thread Carlo E. Prelz
Subject: Re: Switch from GTK to QT (was: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions) Date: mer 21 mag 08 09:22:38 -0400 Quoting Nkoli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My complaint is that it would be difficult for

Problems building pth

2008-05-22 Thread Tom Cooksey
Hiya, I have been having problems with pth for some time (at least a month). I've held off posting, hoping it would get fixed before I needed a build. Sadly, I need a build for next week and it is still failing with: pth_mctx.c:476:2: error: #error Unsupported Linux (g)libc version and/or

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 22 May 2008 15:58:43 +1000 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Thursday 22 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had some further discussions with headquarters, and have edited my blog to try to explain the new software a little better. The important facts are that the

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-22 Thread Tom Cooksey
On Wednesday 21 May 2008 21:45:37 Michael Shiloh wrote: * Ported Qtopia to Xorg, so it is possible to run Qtopia, GTK, ELF, and Python applications all at the same time Hmmm... Just wondering if anyone has seen this: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/05/13/introducing-qgtkstyle/

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-22 Thread Michele Renda
What to say, I hope it will be a success, because I'd like to buy a GTAn with n-inf. :) Dirk Deimeke wrote: Hi Michele, yes, it is not only about money. But it is not only about free software. I am still waiting for the phone because I really like the philosophy attached to the phone. But

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Philippe Guillebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano wrote: Rodolphe Ortalo ha scritto: Bonjour! [...] What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :) -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Perl/Tk

2008-05-22 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Wednesday, 21 de May de 2008 16:00:58 Joseph Reeves va escriure: Dear all, I'm looking for some help getting Perl/Tk installed. I've had success getting Python installed and working with Tk, but can't get the same to happen with Perl: I'm tryiing hve a functional CPAN module for the neo.

Mapless GPS

2008-05-22 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
Randall Munroe, the author of XKCD, suggests an excellent idea: http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/05/20/gps-cyborg-implant/ Simply put, it's a GPS navigator that only repeatedly gives you the direction towards the target (in “three o'clock” style) and the distance to it, without using any maps at

Join the Embedded and Mobile Day at Akademy 2008, August 12, Belgium

2008-05-22 Thread Bart Cerneels
Hello, In the time honored tradition of the KDE community we organize special side-events during our yearly World Summit. A big part of the mind share in the Open Source world the past year has gone to Mobile and Embedded platforms; where the technical and Freedom aspects seem to favor our

Re: Mapless GPS

2008-05-22 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/5/22 Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Simply put, it's a GPS navigator that only repeatedly gives you the direction towards the target (in three o'clock style) and the distance to it, without using any maps at all. It probably won't help you in a maze of twisty passages all alike,

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-22 Thread Lalo Martins
Also spracht Michele Renda (Wed, 21 May 2008 22:51:47 +0200): A lot of people that are afraid that Nokia, as owner of Trolltech, can be against Openmoko freedom, but I think you are not stupid and you know what are you doing. Nokia makes money out of handsets, not software. Who knows? They

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Roland Häder
On Thursday, 22. May 2008, Steven Le Roux wrote: What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :) As I have read here in mailing list, TriSoft, Germany will do it. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Mapless GPS

2008-05-22 Thread David Samblas Martinez
I'ts a great idea, is like a compass but with a selectable north :)--- El jue, 22/5/08, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:De: Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED]Asunto: Mapless GPSPara: "List for OpenMoko community discussion" community@lists.openmoko.orgFecha: jueves, 22 mayo, 2008

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread f4lken
Roland Häder wrote: On Thursday, 22. May 2008, Steven Le Roux wrote: What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :) As I have read here in mailing list, TriSoft, Germany will do it. You

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-22 Thread Michele Renda
Yes, it is possible. But often Hardware producer are linked to carriers. I remember how phone producer try to disable VoIp function from their devices. And this is not nice. I don't know how Nokia will like an open phone. But we can not to know! Lalo Martins wrote: Nokia makes money out of

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Joachim Steiger
Steven Le Roux wrote: What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :) well.. i think that was already answered somewhere in the thread in other words, but here my short version: afaik there will be 2 possibilities: - order at the openmoko us based webshop. - pay in us$

Re: My Openmoko blog is aimed at helping Freerunner users getstarted

2008-05-22 Thread thomasg
Supporting proprietary apps and non-standard non-public-documented protocols should be imho on the far bottom of the todo. So do we need outlook-support out of the box? Definitely not. What we need is SyncML support for the PIM apps/daemon (and I'm pretty sure that abraxa will be doing fine work

Re: Mapless GPS

2008-05-22 Thread Stroller
On 22 May 2008, at 11:27, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: Randall Munroe, the author of XKCD, suggests an excellent idea: http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/05/20/gps-cyborg-implant/ Simply put, it's a GPS navigator that only repeatedly gives you the direction towards the target (in “three o'clock”

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Michele Renda
Joachim Steiger wrote: - pay the (to europe quite high but not unusual) higher shipping fee - if not in the us: pay the VAT/sales tax of the target country on recieving the package to the ups guy (usually in cash) Hi, I'd be interested which firm will manage delivery: UPS, TNT, etc, for

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Joachim Steiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Le Roux wrote: What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :) well.. i think that was already answered somewhere in the thread in other words, but here my short version: afaik there will

Calculate cardinal points from GPS?

2008-05-22 Thread Tomas Gustavsson
Hello! First I would like to say that I'm a newbie when it comes to GPS, so please don't bash (or korn ;)) me if my thinking is rather stupid. I was thinking if was possible to calulate the cardinal points (N,E,S,W) by the difference (in longitude and latitude) between your current location and

Re: Mapless GPS

2008-05-22 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Thu, 22 May 2008 12:27:08 +0200, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randall Munroe, the author of XKCD, suggests an excellent idea: http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/05/20/gps-cyborg-implant/ Simply put, it's a GPS navigator that only repeatedly gives you the direction towards the

Re: Calculate cardinal points from GPS?

2008-05-22 Thread Matt Manjos
From what I understand, Getting a cardinal point-equivalent _heading_ is easy with GPS, but if you are stationary and spinning, it will not update. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Tomas Gustavsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! First I would like to say that I'm a newbie when it comes to

UK Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Alastair Johnson
I was going to post this under the European Distribution thread but it seems to have drifted off topic. Shameless self-promotion follows... We will be selling the Freerunner in the UK. The details are still being worked out, but if you register we will keep you updated as things change.

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-22 Thread Michael Shiloh
Lorn Potter wrote: On Thursday 22 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had some further discussions with headquarters, and have edited my blog to try to explain the new software a little better. The important facts are that the new software: * Switches the Window Manager from

Re: Calculate cardinal points from GPS?

2008-05-22 Thread f4lken
Tomas Gustavsson wrote: Hello! First I would like to say that I'm a newbie when it comes to GPS, so please don't bash (or korn ;)) me if my thinking is rather stupid. I was thinking if was possible to calulate the cardinal points (N,E,S,W) by the difference (in longitude and latitude) between

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Marc Bantle
Steven Le Roux schrieb: To resume, there are some dsitributors : France : Bearstech Germany : TRIsoft we don't already know conditions, and prices with Bearstech, but TRIsoft seems to be arrested to 350€ incl VAT (plus fee's shipment) Not to forget pulster.de, who charges 299€ for a

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Sebastian Billaudelle
pulster.eu seems to be the first OFFICIAL distributor in europe! Freerunner - 299€ cheers Sebastian Am Donnerstag, den 22.05.2008, 16:53 +0200 schrieb Steven Le Roux: On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Joachim Steiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Le Roux wrote: What

Re: Calculate cardinal points from GPS?

2008-05-22 Thread Håkon
Tomas Gustavsson wrote: Hello! I was thinking if was possible to calulate the cardinal points (N,E,S,W) by the difference (in longitude and latitude) between your current location and a fixed one. By doing so we should have our compass, at least in my mind ;). So what do you think guys? Is

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Xavier Vens
On pulster the price is in the description, the price in the list is 0.00 Euro, should not means that they will sell it at 299 Euro. I don't trust this actually. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Sebastian Billaudelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pulster.eu seems to be the first OFFICIAL

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread f4lken
i think we need to wait until the release... They will probably release at same time an official distributor loist... Sebastian Billaudelle wrote: pulster.eu seems to be the first OFFICIAL distributor in europe! Freerunner - 299EUR cheers Sebastian Am Donnerstag, den 22.05.2008, 16:53 +0200

Re: Calculate cardinal points from GPS?

2008-05-22 Thread Travis Tabbal
Turn on the GPS and walk. You will get a heading and you can use that to draw a compass or orient a map display. That's how all GPS systems do it. You can't really know which way the device itself is pointing without a magnetic sensor. ___ Openmoko

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Steven Le Roux wrote: To resume, there are some dsitributors : France : Bearstech Germany : TRIsoft Again there's also Pulster for Germany (and rest of Europe too). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community

Re: Calculate cardinal points from GPS?

2008-05-22 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Matt Manjos wrote: From what I understand, Getting a cardinal point-equivalent _heading_ is easy with GPS, but if you are stationary and spinning, it will not update. Accelerometers could help here...! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Marc Bantle wrote: Not to forget pulster.de, who charges 299€ for a freerunner ;-) Maybe less. Check my previous mail! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-22 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Tom Cooksey wrote: On Wednesday 21 May 2008 21:45:37 Michael Shiloh wrote: * Ported Qtopia to Xorg, so it is possible to run Qtopia, GTK, ELF, and Python applications all at the same time Hmmm... Just wondering if anyone has seen this:

Re: Mapless GPS

2008-05-22 Thread Carl Snellman
Hey Stroller, I _really_ want to see an Openmoko application where you can just choose a contact and have your position sent to them by text message. When their Freerunner receives the message it automagically opens a GPS application that points to your position - this would be SO useful for

IGES STEP CAD file issues

2008-05-22 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
I was curious how many people have been playing with the Neo CAD files? After I found the FreeRunner would be different in case design from the 1973, I held off on using the files. Since no-one has posted conversions of the new Pro/E files I decided to go back look at the old IGES STEP files

Re: Calculate cardinal points from GPS?

2008-05-22 Thread Philippe Guillebert
f4lken wrote: I think that a GPS receive some information about cardinal point... So it will be more simple to read these information than calculate some difference... But, as I say, I'm not sure :( Hi, No, it doesn't...The way to calculate bearing is to derivate your position over time to

Re: My Openmoko blog is aimed at helping Freerunner users get started

2008-05-22 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Funamble connecter springs to mind. Its free too. On 5/22/08, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Supporting proprietary apps and non-standard non-public-documented protocols should be imho on the far bottom of the todo. So do we need outlook-support out of the box? Definitely not. What we need

Re: UK Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Hugo Mills
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 05:05:47PM +0100, Alastair Johnson wrote: I was going to post this under the European Distribution thread but it seems to have drifted off topic. Shameless self-promotion follows... We will be selling the Freerunner in the UK. The details are still being worked out,

Re: IGES STEP CAD file issues

2008-05-22 Thread christooss
Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote: I was curious how many people have been playing with the Neo CAD files? After I found the FreeRunner would be different in case design from the 1973, I held off on using the files. Since no-one has posted conversions of the new Pro/E files I decided to go back look

Re: My Openmoko blog is aimed at helping Freerunner users get started

2008-05-22 Thread Vinc Duran
Federico, can you send me a URL where I can learn more about Funamble? Google searches haven't found me much. Thanks On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Federico Lorenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funamble connecter springs to mind. Its free too. On 5/22/08, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Problems building pth

2008-05-22 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Thursday 22 May 2008 09:35:51 Tom Cooksey wrote: Hiya, I have been having problems with pth for some time (at least a month). I've held off posting, hoping it would get fixed before I needed a build. Sadly, I need a build for next week and it is still failing with: pth_mctx.c:476:2:

Re: UK Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Stroller
On 22 May 2008, at 22:29, Hugo Mills wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 05:05:47PM +0100, Alastair Johnson wrote: I was going to post this under the European Distribution thread but it seems to have drifted off topic. Shameless self-promotion follows... We will be selling the Freerunner in

Re: Mapless GPS

2008-05-22 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Thu, 22 May 2008 20:48:28 +0200, Carl Snellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just FYI, I'm actually in process of registering well-known SMS ports for this purpose with IANA, so that interoperability between devices would be facilitated. If we get the registration through, there would be two

Re: My Openmoko blog is aimed at helping Freerunner users get started

2008-05-22 Thread clare
On Thu, 22 May 2008, Vinc Duran wrote: Federico, can you send me a URL where I can learn more about Funamble? Google searches haven't found me much. Thanks On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Federico Lorenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Vinc - you are sure hard to please. After offering a slight

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 He is first official distributor. At least this is said at http://www.reuters.com . (Sorry for no link, but I'm not sure if I am allowed to post.) Greetings Bastian Sebastian Billaudelle schrieb: | pulster.eu seems to be the first OFFICIAL

Re: ASU: Qtopia PIM info stored in sqlite database (includes preliminary scripts)

2008-05-22 Thread Ian Darwin
Lorn Potter wrote: On Thursday 22 May 2008 08:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Qtopia contacts are stored in the sqlite database. Thanks for the info Lorn. Can you tell where the sqlite database is stored or is that not Qtopia determined? The users database is

problems about openmoko-browser2

2008-05-22 Thread 赵经纬
Hi i come to some problems when i run openmoko-browser2 on qemu. when i open the web www.openmoko.org and click the link : history. and the browser display it on the current page correctly.I input www.google.com . the openmoko-browser2 open the website correctly.then i input the key word baidu in

Re: Mapless GPS

2008-05-22 Thread W.Kenworthy
Cetus GPS (http://www.cetusgps.dk/ - for Palm) is a good implementation of this (see web page above for screenshots). Also keeps a track history every few seconds and has some other options like averaging to get a reasonably accurate reading vs a rough and ready. Speed is dead accurate (or my

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Harry Tsai
Hi all, Currently, ONLY PULSTER is openmoko official partner in Germany and EU and He also is our first partner in world. BR Harry Marco Trevisan (Treviño) 提到: Steven Le Roux wrote: To resume, there are some dsitributors : France : Bearstech Germany : TRIsoft Again there's also

My blog, Freerunner FIrst Impressions and some pics

2008-05-22 Thread Kevin Dean
I recieved my Openmoko Freerunner sample this morning via DHL, and like I did with the Neo1973, I took lots of pictures and blogged about it. Some of the pictures aren't the greatest (poor lighting in my bedroom and a photographer I am not!) but they get the idea across. The write up also gives a

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Marnix Klooster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Harry, | Steven Le Roux wrote: | To resume, there are some dsitributors : | | France : Bearstech | Germany : TRIsoft | Marco Trevisan (Treviño) 提到: | | Again there's also Pulster for Germany (and rest of Europe too). On 23-05-08 04:53, Harry

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Harry Tsai
Hi all, Currently, ONLY PULSTER is openmoko official partner in Germany and EU and He also is our first partner in world. BR Harry Bastian Muck 提到: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 He is first official distributor. At least this is said at http://www.reuters.com . (Sorry for

Re: My blog, Freerunner FIrst Impressions and some pics

2008-05-22 Thread Kosa
Awesome! Thank you very much. What about the software? Did it came with QTopia? And sorry if I'me getting it wrong (my english is not very good) but first you wrote no accesories and next you wrote it came with a headset and the laser/led/pens stylus. Ain't those accesories? Well, I have a lot