[shr, others?] Flash drive mounted with sync option

2009-06-29 Thread Ben Wong
Hi! Can anyone help me to figure out if the following behavior is a bug or not? Under SHR (both testing and unstable), drives and partitions not listed in fstab are automounted using the sync option which is *very* slow and possibly damaging to flash media. Slowness: While attempting to untar a

Re: [shr, others?] Flash drive mounted with sync option

2009-06-29 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
I'd like to submit a bug report with a suggestion to remove the -o sync option, but before I do, I wonder if anybody can tell me if there is a valid reason to be using sync on all automounted drives. The reason is - if mount is not sync, something is writtent to the device, and then device is

Re: DNS fix disappears on android beta 7

2009-06-29 Thread arne anka
cat init.rc confirms that the changes are there. However, after reboot the changes the the DNS section in init.rc disappear. most likely something overwrites them later on. either one of the init scripts (no clue what kind of init android uses) or the networking subsystem does that on

Re: [shr, others?] Flash drive mounted with sync option

2009-06-29 Thread Ben Wong
Since users don't like to manually unmount their devices, and developers really don't like when users blame them for unrecoverable data loss, default is to mount sync. Thank you for reminding me of that. You might be right that it is was a developer's choice, but if so it was a very poor

Re: Elmdentica 0.3.0

2009-06-29 Thread Thomas Seiler
Hi Rui, in elementary, you can scale each visual element independently by using the function void elm_object_scale_set (Evas_Object *obj, double scale) on the evas object. The scale factor is applied to all elements of the object, i.e. not only the button size but also the buttons text is

Re: which gps app can do this?

2009-06-29 Thread arne anka
why not simply draw a circle with the boat's current position as center and the given distance (3nm) as radius and then check if the circle contains part of the coast line? the moment, the circle is empty, you're out of range. still no scenario for an usual gps app, but the coast lines

Re: [shr-unstable] making bricks...

2009-06-29 Thread arne anka
[r...@localhost sbin]# ./ifconfig ifconfig -a shows everything, even inactive interfaces. additionally, you might check the host's logs when plugging in the fr: tail -f /var/log/messages and watch for some meaningful messages. ___ Openmoko

Re: Elmdentica 0.3.0

2009-06-29 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
hms... at least in Ubuntu it only scaled the text... I will later on try building a package and see what it'll look like on the freerunner but I doubt it'll be much different :( Thank you very much, anyway :) On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:58:56AM +0200, Thomas Seiler wrote: in elementary, you can

Re: [shr-unstable] making bricks...

2009-06-29 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 09:02:28AM -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: dmesg has given me this, most of which i do not understand. but i did try adding ip address command to usb3 and terminal reported back cannot find device [snip] usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=1d50, idProduct=5119 usb 3-1:

Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V3

2009-06-29 Thread Fabio Locati
maybe there are some services that runs only under debian, and not under fso ;) or maybe fso uses a different glibc (maybe eblibc?) On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Radek Polakpson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, i have updated my QtMoko debian base images [1]. You can find some general info on

Re: [OM2009] Paroli oversized

2009-06-29 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Joel Newkirkfreerun...@newkirk.us wrote: I added a program to tele.edj triggering on signal resize. (which also conveniently triggers on initial layout) At its debugging simplest, it is the following four lines of Embryo (the goal is to compare width vs height

Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V3

2009-06-29 Thread Alexander Syring
Hi is there a possibility to update from v2 to v3? Or should I always reflash my freerunner? And what about the sms on sim-card? I want to use my sim in my freerunner but I don't want that the freerunner is deleting my sms on sim card. Cheers Alex On 2009-06-28 radek polak wrote: Hi, i have

Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V3

2009-06-29 Thread Radek Polak
Alexander Syring wrote: is there a possibility to update from v2 to v3? Or should I always reflash my freerunner? Hi Alexander, i dont have time to support and test updates. But you can try (without warranty) to extract /opt /etc/fstab and /etc/rc.local from v3 image. And what about the sms

Re: which gps app can do this?

2009-06-29 Thread Helge Hafting
lanzo wrote: Hi! I'd like to be using my FR on my little boat as marine GPS. I was curious if, in your opinion, it could be possible to constantly show the distance between me and the nearest point on the coast line. This would be important because in my country (and i guess everywhere)

Re: [shr-unstable] making bricks...

2009-06-29 Thread David Fokkema
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 12:00 +0200, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 09:02:28AM -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: dmesg has given me this, most of which i do not understand. but i did try adding ip address command to usb3 and terminal reported back cannot find device [snip]

Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?

2009-06-29 Thread Helge Hafting
Brolin Empey wrote: 1. Are there applications with all of the specific features I listed, though? My Nokia 6103b has some basic organiser applications, such as for calender and task lists, but it does not have all of the features I listed. Depends on what linux distro you choose to run.

Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)

2009-06-29 Thread Helge Hafting
mobi phil wrote: no offense, but thinkin only about yourself, what you want, is probably the cause nr. one for openmoko company/project failing. If you want a company to sponsor the development of the project, they need to have benefit. They can generate benefit by selling devices. But if

Re: [OM2009] airplane mode

2009-06-29 Thread Helge Hafting
jeremy jozwik wrote: window seat makes no difference : ) in fact for several minuets i was holding my freerunner against the window and got nothing... My experience is that a window seat is necessary. If I have a fix, I loose it by moving the phone half a meter away from the window. So it

Error during download get_status

2009-06-29 Thread Tim Vangehugten
Still got a lot of times the dfu-util error -62. But now, on OpenSuSE I encountered a different problem. Error during download get_status Here is the terminal IN/OUTPUT: dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D testing-om-gta02-20090120.uImage.bin dfu-util - (C) 2007-2008 by OpenMoko Inc. This

Re: [OM2009] airplane mode

2009-06-29 Thread Helge Hafting
Petr Vanek wrote: - FSO is quite unable to get a fix while in 1m altitude and (or) high speed. it sees the satelites, get's a fix and then for some reason something happens and no satelite is being seen anymore. this will repeat fo as long as you leave it. Huh? My freerunner

Re: tango and the missing map tiles

2009-06-29 Thread Helge Hafting
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:08:54PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/6/25 Tim Abell t...@timwise.co.uk: I've found that if tango doesn't have a working net connection available when you pan around it will generate empty files for the map images and then never

Re: [shr-unstable] making bricks...

2009-06-29 Thread jeremy jozwik
that was further down the list. any rate all is well now. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsenr...@sygehus.dk wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 09:02:28AM -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: dmesg has given me this, most of which i do not understand. but i did try adding ip address

Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X

2009-06-29 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Tim Abell t...@timwise.co.uk writes: I've got my bt keyboard connected, and according to hcidump I think the keypress events are getting to bluez, however they aren't getting to any applications, including xev. 1) Are you running hal? 2) Does lshal list the device? 3) Are you using Xorg? 4)

Re: FreeRunner A6 Sale

2009-06-29 Thread Steven **
I don't want to hurt OM's sales, but why not buy directly from SDG Systems? http://sdgsystems.com/estore/cart.php?target=productproduct_id=269category_id=17 It seems they are selling the A6 version with the buzz fix pre-installed. -Steven On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Jason

[shr-unstable] omgps wsod with full

2009-06-29 Thread jeremy jozwik
running shr-unstable 20090624 with the latest version of omgps on opkg.org. when i hit the full button i get a white screen of death. no terminal errors to report. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Why vala? Was - Re: ffalarms 0.2.3 Vala/libeflvala/Elementary rewrite

2009-06-29 Thread Steven **
I've seen several developers talking about porting things to vala. I'm not really familiar with this language. What is the point? Why would you spend the effort rewriting an app that already works into another language when the result is identical to the original? Is vala really that much

Re: openmoko accessories

2009-06-29 Thread Steven **
I'm with Chris on this one. I'd like a car cradle. While I thought EUR 29 was expensive, I finally decided I wanted it enough to buy it. Until I saw that it'd cost another EUR 30 to ship it to me! I'm not paying $83 for a car cradle. Even with 19% discount (which I'm betting only applies to

Re: Why vala? Was - Re: ffalarms 0.2.3 Vala/libeflvala/Elementary rewrite

2009-06-29 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Just wondering if I should be paying more attention to this vala stuff... Yes, you should, because Vala is a groundbreaking new programming language that combines the abstraction of high level languages with the performance of low level languages. See also:

Re: [shr-unstable] omgps wsod with full

2009-06-29 Thread jeremy jozwik
also seems to be happening with ffalarms... On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: running shr-unstable 20090624 with the latest version of omgps on opkg.org. when i hit the full button i get a white screen of death. no terminal errors to report.

Re: [shr-unstable] omgps wsod with full

2009-06-29 Thread mqy
hi jeremy, I encountered the WSOD two days ago with latest SHR-unstable, after a upgrade without restart xserver or FR. Haven't seen that problem again after reboot. I suggest you try other applications (eg. tangoGPS) with full/unfull buttons, and/or do a upgrade then test again. I will do a

Re: [shr-unstable] omgps wsod with full

2009-06-29 Thread jeremy jozwik
well... i think iv just narrowed it down. all my current applications wsod on full screen because i, once again, set the illume keyboard to none. once i set it back to default everything calmed down. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:30 AM, mqymeng.qing...@gmail.com wrote: hi jeremy, I encountered

Re: [shr-unstable] omgps wsod with full

2009-06-29 Thread Michal Brzozowski
By wsod do you mean the enlightement crashed, this is very bad... dialog? 2009/6/29 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com well... i think iv just narrowed it down. all my current applications wsod on full screen because i, once again, set the illume keyboard to none. once i set it back to

Re: [shr-unstable] omgps wsod with full

2009-06-29 Thread jeremy jozwik
i read some where else someone calling it the white screen of death wsod, or enlightement crashed, this is very bad... On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: By wsod do you mean the enlightement crashed, this is very bad... dialog? 2009/6/29 jeremy jozwik

Re: [shr-unstable] omgps wsod with full

2009-06-29 Thread Petr Vanek
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:50:07 -0700 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com (JJ) wrote: i read some where else someone calling it the white screen of death wsod, or enlightement crashed, this is very bad... watch out, wsod is different, no recovery except reboot. en crashing is another story...

Re: [shr-unstable] omgps wsod with full

2009-06-29 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Same thing happens on Om2009 by the way. Illume or enlightenment bug. Don't blame literki :-) 2009/6/29 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com i read some where else someone calling it the white screen of death wsod, or enlightement crashed, this is very bad... On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:46

Re: [shr-unstable] omgps wsod with full

2009-06-29 Thread jeremy jozwik
hey now! i made no mention of that lovable little keyboard. all i said is that i switch illum to none. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Same thing happens on Om2009 by the way. Illume or enlightenment bug. Don't blame literki :-) 2009/6/29 jeremy

Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V3

2009-06-29 Thread Radek Polak
Me wrote: The FSO images seem to be a bit faster. This is one thing that keeps me puzzled. What could make the speed different? Same binary on different rootfs should be the same fast. Anyone has idea why FSO is faster? I just found the problem. The slow thing is that qpe process writes

Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V3

2009-06-29 Thread Linus Gasser
radek polak a écrit : Hi, i have updated my QtMoko debian base images [1]. You can find some general info on homepage [2] and sources in git [3]. Hi, OK, seems great. For the moment I know only two distributions that I like for using it as a telephone: Android and QtE, or Qtmoko now.

Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V3

2009-06-29 Thread Fabio Locati
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Linus Gasserine...@markas-al-nour.org wrote: radek polak a écrit : Hi, i have updated my QtMoko debian base images [1]. You can find some general info on homepage [2] and sources in git [3]. Hi, OK, seems great. For the moment I know only two distributions

Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V3

2009-06-29 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/29 Linus Gasser ine...@markas-al-nour.org Is there a way to mix Qtmoko and an X-server? I know it's a common question, I just don't remember the last answer (it might be 42, but...) It's possible to run qtopia phone apps on X-server (Om2008 does it). I've been trying to compile those

Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V3

2009-06-29 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/29 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com Is there a way to mix Qtmoko and an X-server? I know it's a common question, I just don't remember the last answer (it might be 42, but...) Radekp is working on it ;) Probably the next qtmoko version will have the X server too :) That would be

[QtMoko] - import VCF

2009-06-29 Thread Linus Gasser
Dear list, I'm trying to import my vcf-file into QtMoko. But the /opt/qtmoko/bin/addressbook program doesn't find the contacts-table in the database, and neither do I (sqlite3 /opt/qtmoko/qto*). Is this on purpose? Are all contacts only stored on SIM? Is there no local addressbook anymore?

Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V3

2009-06-29 Thread Gennady Kupava
Hello, Radek. В Вск, 28/06/2009 в 23:03 +0200, radek polak пишет: This new version should be stable as daily phone. [4] http://qtmoko.org/ Thank you much for images, they bring some hope to me. After SHR installation I start to believe that openmoko can be used, and at some point I'll able

Elmdentica release 0.4.0

2009-06-29 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Hi! A release a day! 0.4.0 doesn’t add THAT much, unless you like to, you know... repeat (or retweet) what other say and reply to others, or maybe proudly show you’re using Elmdentica! :) Oh... and a counter (but it lets you type more than 140... just warns...) 0.4.0 in action...

[omgps] collect feature requests

2009-06-29 Thread mqy
First, I must appreciate all omgps users, for your test and feed back. Because ersion 0.1 gets stable for now, and it will be integrated into official openembeded repository, I'm planing start next major developing stage. Here is current plan: 1. better supports for track logging, nuk ask me to

[omgps] collect feature requests

2009-06-29 Thread mqy
First, I must appreciate all omgps users, for your test and feed back. Because ersion 0.1 gets stable for now, and it will be integrated into official openembeded repository, I'm planing start next major developing stage. Here is current plan: 1. better supports for track logging, nuk ask me to

[omgps] collect feature requests

2009-06-29 Thread mqy
First, I must appreciate all omgps users, for your test and feed back. Because ersion 0.1 gets stable for now, and it will be integrated into official openembeded repository, I'm planing start next major developing stage. Here is current plan: 1. better supports for track logging, nuk ask me to

Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

2009-06-29 Thread jeremy jozwik
BIGGER BUTTONS!!! On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:30 PM, mqymeng.qing...@gmail.com wrote: First, I must appreciate all omgps users, for your test and feed back. Because ersion 0.1 gets stable for now, and it will be integrated into official openembeded repository, I'm planing start next major

[omgps] collect feature requests

2009-06-29 Thread mqy
First, I must appreciate all omgps users, for your test and feed back. Because ersion 0.1 gets stable for now, and it will be integrated into official openembeded repository, I'm planing start next major developing stage. Here is current plan: 1. better supports for track logging, nuk ask me to

Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

2009-06-29 Thread jeremy jozwik
and more sincerely. perhaps a setting for lenght of displayed track. say your carting about with the track on, and you want to look at omgps to see where you have been but the line only draws so many minutes [?] into the past. i might be good to have a setting in the app that could control this

Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

2009-06-29 Thread mqy
hehe, how big? double? jeremy jozwik wrote: BIGGER BUTTONS!!! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-omgps--collect-feature-requests-tp3178254p3178300.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

2009-06-29 Thread mqy
make sense, I can remember this request before. but that's not battery-friendly. think how to draw such a path after you get thousands of fixes on each redraw (per second)? what about add another menu item let you review history? what about start track automatically at start? currently, you

Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

2009-06-29 Thread jeremy jozwik
vertical, i would say yes. right now its only stylus or finger nail and lots of concentration. also, theres a lot of empty space in the main menu :) the change buttons for color or gps preset need to be bigger for sho On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:39 PM, mqymeng.qing...@gmail.com wrote: hehe, how

NABBLE [was: Re: [omgps] collect feature requests]

2009-06-29 Thread David Ford
For those of you who post using nabble -- please reconsider. Nabble posts duplicates. The below was posted by nabble four times. The headers clearly indicate nabble at fault with four different originating message IDs. Additionally, many people report problems with nabble's javascript (no,

Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

2009-06-29 Thread jeremy jozwik
make sense, I can remember this request before. but that's not battery-friendly. think how to draw such a path after you get thousands of fixes on each redraw (per second)? thats why i was thinking a slider that someone could set if they dont want to be battery friendly at that one moment.

Re: tango and the missing map tiles

2009-06-29 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 03:23:47PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: Strange - the hash for an empty file will be wrong. Maybe yaouh gives up when nothing can be read from the file. In that case, consider making a script that copies some particular tile (or other png image) over any size=0 file.

Re: NABBLE [was: Re: [omgps] collect feature requests]

2009-06-29 Thread mqy
it seems firefox plugin cookieculler prevents post displaying response. noscript is another trouble maker. I'm sorry for the duplicates. David Ford wrote: For those of you who post using nabble -- please reconsider. Nabble posts duplicates. The below was posted by nabble four times.

Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

2009-06-29 Thread ivvmm
mqy wrote: currently, you have to stop track then view path with track replay. Please, make track replay rewindable! For huge tracks you have to wait forever while it gets where you wanted it to. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V3

2009-06-29 Thread Linus Gasser
Gennady Kupava a écrit : 1. Booting with Qi fails somehow. Last and only thing i see [21474549.34] INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294909868/2000 jiffies). NOR uboot is fine, i seen same message but INIT:... after that. Hmm, this reminds me of the Neovento-kernel. Never had this