Great idea,
an Openmoko community-managed table or devroom would be a strong reason for me
to come this year, so +1 from my side! If it's going to be a devroom, I would
offer a presentation on FSO: Origins, Status, and Future.
Cheers,
:M:
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One thing I have noticed with 0.2 is that the alarm isn't very loud and
the FR seems to go to sleep before the alarm gets loud enough to hear -
its inaudible except when there is nearly no environment noise. 0.1
seems to get a lot louder, and faster. Something to think of for your
todo list
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 08:09 +0100, Richy wrote:
One thing I have noticed with 0.2 is that the alarm isn't very loud and
the FR seems to go to sleep before the alarm gets loud enough to hear -
its inaudible except when there is nearly no environment noise. 0.1
seems to get a lot louder,
Hello, list!
Nowdays I have some problems with mediaplayer on the QtMoko v14 image.
I installed codecs package form the repository and set it up, but
mediaplayer still cannot play mp3 files...
When I try to play ogg files - I receive a very bad performance, the
music twitch every 2 seconds.
OK Tuxbrain will be there, :)
so we have Qalee , and FSO presented by his creators, yummy
Is not very clear yet but we had in mind to do a #1024 rework party in
Barcelona after the FOSDEM , so we will try to make it in FOSDEM too,
just to make clear this time the rework will not be for free,
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
Also, I installed Qtv14 (thanks to Radek for that distribution), and
that I see? I is fast enought, scrolls fast, react fast, and so on. So,
scrolling is different in qt. it is a simple blit. in efl it's a redraw. efl
is
very much like GL. you
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:01:58 +0100 DJDAS dj...@djdas.net said:
AHAHAHAHAH.Guy, please go home
I followed this thread and read too much bul***it but now it's very very
interesting your position! So E it's a very
optimized-full_of_fancy-magical-biggest window manager BUT all of his
DJDAS a écrit :
It never NEVER worked in an acceptable manner in EVERY my desktop system
since 4 years (with nVidia graphics cards, not GLAMO or Freerunner),
Compiz+XFCE are light-years way faster and optimized than that E's bunch
of uncommented and always-in.beta (and not standards
Thanks Xavier, for stopping what was going to be a flamefest.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Xavier Cremaschi
omega.xav...@gmail.comwrote:
DJDAS a écrit :
It never NEVER worked in an acceptable manner in EVERY my desktop system
since 4 years (with nVidia graphics cards, not GLAMO or
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Well I have full fill the form for ask for a devroom for the
Openmoko-community on 2009-11-29 we will know if we were approved or
rejected
I already contacted the organisation quite a
I am thinking about giving a presentation about GNUstep/QuantumSTEP on
Openmokos.
GNUstep is also asking for a devroom, so don't know if I am allowed to
give it twice :-)
Am 27.10.2009 um 09:48 schrieb David Reyes Samblas Martinez:
OK Tuxbrain will be there, :)
so we have Qalee , and FSO
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don't forget to fit in the Snooze slider too, please :)
Again, perhaps something thats suited to a config setting. When I set
+ configurable unlock shr-today upon wake up :)
Petr
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Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
you show and immense amount of knowledge here, both of the hardware, of
software and graphics in general. i'm amazed. i shall take your advice as you
obviously are someone of massive experience. i see that people reporting that
its faster and better on a
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don't forget to fit in the Snooze slider too, please :)
It shouldn't need a
I think this post should be very helpful in optimizing our distros (SHR
first - 'cause i seems to be the most used).
Thanks for the helpful hints, but maybe now we should move in producing
something that works for all, something as a click and enjoy approach.
Thanks (hope that some shr-dev are
When I boot into QtMoko v14 without a sim card(and sometimes with a sim
card) The home screen gets stuck at PIN dialog, saying Please wait...
I can hold the AUX button and run applications by adding them to my
favourites first, but when I try to go home, I go to the Please wait...
screen.
I think
Regarding the whole discussion. I would rather have a glamo chip that's 10x
slower and be able to receive phone calls and text messages. Seriously, the
whole software stack all the way from the bootloader to the GUIs (ok not all
of them) is in alpha stage. Why bitch about slow hardware?
Yes, I see my A5 modem there, without my simcard. I didn't try looking
there with simcard yet.
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.comwrote:
That wasn't the case with me. My FR
Bah, I write too slowly. Started when this mail arrived, didn't read the other
responses yet...
This seems to be, in part, an issue of talking about different things... (see
below)
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 10:01:58 DJDAS wrote:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
scrolling is
Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
I beg to differ, your personal experience is not mine (E17 being damn
fast comparing to xfce). E17 is fuck**g fast on limited hardware.
World is beautiful because it's various ;)
I think you miss the point :
- qtmoko/qtopia is pretty because of good skin and good
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 11:47:22 DJDAS wrote:
Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
A fast FR means a simple GUI and QtMoko is simple and pretty... I would
say it's well balanced indeed, it fits well the FR. But E17 displaying
same simple gui controls would be faster, no doubt.
This doesn't mean E17
Hi guys !
I don't want to feed the troll but lets compare what's comparable ...
You compare Qt framebuffer with E over Xorg ... In one case you have a Xorg
who is running in the other it's directly accessed ...
To compare, let's take ( for example :) ) Qalee it run a Qt over Xorg with
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:11:04 +0100 DJDAS dj...@djdas.net said:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
you show and immense amount of knowledge here, both of the hardware, of
software and graphics in general. i'm amazed. i shall take your advice as
you obviously are someone of massive
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 04:42:21PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:31:26 +0100 ri...@happyleptic.org said:
-[ Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:52:04AM +1100, Carsten Haitzler ]
E is nice thing, but it look like highly unoptimized.
i beg to differ. it's more
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 12:46:01 Marc Andre Tanner wrote:
but.. if i were smart.. i'd not develop apps for the freerunner. it's a
dead product. it has no more being produced. it has no evolution path.
there won't be a gtao3, 04, 05 etc. everyone quit or was fired/let go
from om that
Hi,
vendion wrote:
Yea the version that I have is libelementary-ver-svn-04.so.0 so I had to
create the soft links to get it to work
How did you get to svn-04? i've been updating regularly and I don't get
any updates! Selective updating - that's a new one ;-)
From what I know, the
Hi,
Well, I've been thinking about making a few more changes like :-
1. a second screen to the right that shows up on a finger slide with the
category toolbar and program icons
2. a home screen with :-
(a) some widgets (weather, facebook etc)
(b) lists for tasks/calendars/events etc
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
I would only rise couple of points here:
Scrolling is not optimized at the maximum.
Look at ipod or nintendo DS, they do *discrete* scrolling and it is
amazingly fast.
They dont do kinetics, or pixel perfect scrolling
On Tuesday 27 October 2009, DJDAS wrote:
Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
- qt in qtmoko is very simple (for example no transparency, no fancy
controls...)
I prefer to not have transparency if this would result in more than
10fps in GUI responsiveness (not calculated but perceived which is what
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:01 AM, DJDAS dj...@djdas.net wrote:
AHAHAHAHAH.Guy, please go home
I followed this thread and read too much bul***it but now it's very very
interesting your position! So E it's a very
optimized-full_of_fancy-magical-biggest window manager BUT all of his
c_c wrote:
Hi,
Well, I've been thinking about making a few more changes like :-
1. a second screen to the right that shows up on a finger slide with the
category toolbar and program icons
2. a home screen with :-
(a) some widgets (weather, facebook etc)
(b) lists for
I am sorry, but my letter is not about trolling and blaming but about
optimization, qt and e, speed is interesting for me, not blaming. Calm
down guys! I've numbered separate points overwise my letter will look
endless :)
1. First, bit about qt scrolling - It's not so simple Carlsen want it to
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
well as i said. it works fine and fluidly on many other devices.
Even Windows Vista works fine and fluidly on 3000$ desktops this doesn't
mean it's optimized ;)
but.. if i were smart.. i'd not develop apps for the freerunner. it's a dead
product. it has
Laszlo KREKACS ha scritto:
Lets count the elementary apps here. How many of them written for the
Freerunner?
Sad true: almost all usable elementary app are written for the Freerunner.
I think in a year or so we will grow out the Freerunner. But until
then there is a lot
of small
Christophe M wrote:
Hi guys !
I don't want to feed the troll but lets compare what's comparable ...
You compare Qt framebuffer with E over Xorg ... In one case you have a
Xorg who is running in the other it's directly accessed ...
Not true, because if Raster was right the only problem would
Al Johnson wrote:
On Tuesday 27 October 2009, DJDAS wrote:
Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
- qt in qtmoko is very simple (for example no transparency, no fancy
controls...)
I prefer to not have transparency if this would result in more than
10fps in GUI responsiveness (not
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:11:08 +0300 Gennady Kupava g...@bsdmn.com said:
I am sorry, but my letter is not about trolling and blaming but about
optimization, qt and e, speed is interesting for me, not blaming. Calm
down guys! I've numbered separate points overwise my letter will look
endless :)
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:51:48 +0100 DJDAS dj...@djdas.net said:
Christophe M wrote:
Hi guys !
I don't want to feed the troll but lets compare what's comparable ...
You compare Qt framebuffer with E over Xorg ... In one case you have a
Xorg who is running in the other it's directly
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:47:02 +0100 DJDAS dj...@djdas.net said:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
well as i said. it works fine and fluidly on many other devices.
Even Windows Vista works fine and fluidly on 3000$ desktops this doesn't
mean it's optimized ;)
but.. if i were smart..
On Tuesday 27 of October 2009 08:38:35 Gmail wrote:
Hello, list!
Nowdays I have some problems with mediaplayer on the QtMoko v14 image.
I installed codecs package form the repository and set it up, but
mediaplayer still cannot play mp3 files...
Did you start the codecsinstaller app, hit the
On Tuesday 27 of October 2009 11:29:31 Atilla Filiz wrote:
When I boot into QtMoko v14 without a sim card(and sometimes with a sim
card) The home screen gets stuck at PIN dialog, saying Please wait...
I can hold the AUX button and run applications by adding them to my
favourites first, but
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:27 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi,
vendion wrote:
Yea the version that I have is libelementary-ver-svn-04.so.0 so I had to
create the soft links to get it to work
How did you get to svn-04? i've been updating regularly and I don't get
any updates!
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
Because Linux doesn't sucks on an 8086 ;) because Linux is well
designed, is scalable, is optimized and can run even on a 8086...Desktop
i think you just illustrated my point where i don't think you know what you
are
talking about. an intel
Hi everyone,
great to hear many people are interested! Today I've entered openmoko on
fosdem.org for a devroom and made some wikipages for it. If you're coming or
want to do more (giving a talk/presentation, organizing a brainstorm
session, ...), please add your name and/or idea to
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:51:48 +0100 DJDAS dj...@djdas.net said:
Christophe M wrote:
Hi guys !
I don't want to feed the troll but lets compare what's comparable ...
You compare Qt framebuffer with E over Xorg ... In one case you have a
i leaved just a new version of xminimokostatus.
Improvements: now fully using dbus:
- it doen't need external programs for getting status.
- signal strenth and provider is now read from dbus-signals, no active poll
== http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimoko
:) :) seems there are at least three request for a Openmoko devroom!! :)
Nikolaus do you agree to unify our efforts in one?, I propose use the
PieterC request. mine at least I will send a a mail organizers retire
mine and agregate to PieterC one.
David Reyes Samblas Martinez
David,
Am 27.10.2009 um 19:01 schrieb David Reyes Samblas Martinez:
:) :) seems there are at least three request for a Openmoko
devroom!! :)
the more hunters the better the results :)
Nikolaus do you agree to unify our efforts in one?, I propose use the
PieterC request. mine at least I
Am Mittwoch, den 28.10.2009, 02:02 +1100 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
[...]
why are you not complaining that linux sucks on an 8086 on
your desktop?
Because Linux doesn't sucks on an 8086 ;) because Linux is well
designed, is scalable, is optimized and can run even on a 8086...Desktop
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
What about GTA02-core?
Hmm, no plans from my side so far. I prefer to have something
tangible to show when going to conferences :-)
There are still a few months until FOSDEM - by when would a
decision have to be made ?
- Werner
Hello people,
there is a new version of fatfingershell (0.2).
It is a virtual terminal for Openmoko mobile phones, with a fullscreen
keyboard, and sound/screen/vibrator feedback.
You can set the colors and the transparency, set new keyboard layouts
(hard yet) and replace the sounds.
The
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 20:21 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
you show and immense amount of knowledge here, both of the hardware,
of
software and graphics in general. i'm amazed. i shall take your advice
as you
obviously are someone of massive experience. i see that people
reporting that
its
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 10:12 -0700, PieterC wrote:
Hi everyone,
great to hear many people are interested! Today I've entered openmoko on
fosdem.org for a devroom and made some wikipages for it. If you're coming or
want to do more (giving a talk/presentation, organizing a brainstorm
session,
Sure! :)
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 14:43 -0700, GNUtoo [via Openmoko Public
Mailinglists] wrote:
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 10:12 -0700, PieterC wrote:
Hi everyone,
great to hear many people are interested! Today I've entered
openmoko on
fosdem.org for a devroom and made some wikipages for
great :)
feel free to contact me at any time
Pieter
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 11:02 -0700, David Samblas Martinez [via Openmoko
Public Mailinglists] wrote:
:) :) seems there are at least three request for a Openmoko
devroom!! :)
Nikolaus do you agree to unify our efforts in one?, I propose use
Hello list,
I have a buzz-fixed rev A6 US FreeRunner (FR). I am currently using QtMoko
v11, which is installed in my FR’s onboard NAND. I need a MicroSDHC card on
which to install Debian. I do not want to run out of disk space, so I
probably need at least an 8 GB card. The Openmoko wiki
Rafael Ignacio Zurita rizur...@yahoo.com writes:
Hello people,
there is a new version of fatfingershell (0.2).
It is a virtual terminal for Openmoko mobile phones, with a fullscreen
keyboard, and sound/screen/vibrator feedback.
You can set the colors and the transparency, set new
2009/10/27 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com
Am Mittwoch, den 28.10.2009, 02:02 +1100 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
[...]
why are you not complaining that linux sucks on an 8086 on
your desktop?
Because Linux doesn't sucks on an 8086 ;) because Linux is well
designed, is scalable, is
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:38:28 +0100 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm said:
2009/10/27 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com
Am Mittwoch, den 28.10.2009, 02:02 +1100 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
[...]
why are you not complaining that linux sucks on an 8086 on
your desktop?
Because
On Tuesday 27 October 2009, Brolin Empey wrote:
Hello list,
I have a buzz-fixed rev A6 US FreeRunner (FR). I am currently using QtMoko
v11, which is installed in my FR’s onboard NAND. I need a MicroSDHC card
on which to install Debian. I do not want to run out of disk space, so I
I want to use my FR to watch a stream from my MythTV recordings using
http stream (I think it is mpeg 2) using my wireless. Is the glamo
enhanced mplayer available in QtMoko/Denian ?
cheers Denis
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On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
It's known problem. If you need good quality playback, you can use qmplayer
program.
How does one play a mpeg stream uing a link from qmplayer such as
http://192.168.0.105//mythweb/pl/stream/1003/1256644800
Il giorno mar, 27/10/2009 alle 16.37 -0300, Rafael Ignacio Zurita ha
scritto:
Hello people,
there is a new version of fatfingershell (0.2).
It is a virtual terminal for Openmoko mobile phones, with a fullscreen
keyboard, and sound/screen/vibrator feedback.
Nice work!
Suggestions and
Hi,
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Would be possible keeping the same system but allowing an usage in
480x640 mode?
OT - but - what hardware are you talking about? ;-)
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