Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
We went back to the drawing board with OpenedHand -- lead by their vast
experience with GTK+, Matchbox, and mobile user interfaces -- and
redesigned an incredibly promising new interface.
Are there screenshots available anywhere?
Please let me bounce an idea off the list...
Given that the Neo1973 has similar processing power and screen
resolution to what desktop machines had not too long ago, I think it
would be cool if the user interface had a 'mode' where the Neo could
work as a laptop replacement.
I imagine a kit the
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 23:11 +0100, Erland Lewin wrote:
I imagine a kit the size of a regular book for the Neo containing a
fresnel lens with a frame for attaching to the phone, a foldable
keyboard, a small mouse, and a battery pack loadable with, say, 2
regular 'C' size batteries.
Christ van Willegen wrote:
I've gathered from the e-mails that the GTA02 will be distributed to
end users in Februari.
What e-mails are you referring to?
Have I missed a community update?
I find it frustrating that important information is not released through
the community update process,
Thanks for the updates, Michael.
Any update on how the GTA02v5 evaluation is proceeding?
OpenMoko community mailing list
Thomas Gstädtner wrote:
does somebody know if it is possible to turn off the Neo's display?
Currently only the backlight is disabled and the display still stays
on (what's totally useless and a waste of energy).
Does anybody have any idea how much energy just updating/driving the
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 01:37 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Looking at the demos it seems to be a really good project, the support
for the OSM maps is good, but what about integrating support for
libgarmin to allow using also free and commercial garmin
maps (of course, waiting OSM
2008/3/6, JW [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Why do people want metal cases so much...???Features in wiki
hardware wishlist too.
My main reason for wanting a metal case is that it ages better than plastic.
I carry my phone (currently a Sony Ericsson P910) in my pocket, and even
though I try to keep
Does OpenMoko run Opera Mini?
Opera mini is Java, right, so it should run if OpenMoko has Java support?
And I think I've seen that there is at least some initial Java support in
OpenMoko, correct me if I'm wrong. Has anyone tried it?
I realize that Opera Mini is closed-source, but IMHO it's a
Will Opera Mini run on the Freerunner?
I asked this before, but didn't get a reply. I assume it depends on
how well J2ME works on the Freerunner.
IMHO, the Opera Mini design (compressing and optimizing web pages
before sending them to the phone) is excellent, because it saves
2008/4/13, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well, if you consider that you've to pay the shipping costs from Usa or
Asia in 10 or more people, instead that as an alone buyer I think that you
gain really more than 30$-8€ ;)
Well, that is the key question now for us in the EU - I
2008/4/13, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add some
other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
There won't be a charger in the standard box? And I thought there was
a custom charger allowing the Freerunner to charge
Regarding a headset, how easy will it be to get a third party (wired,
non-bluetooth) headset with decent sound for the Freerunner?
I believe there was some discussion on the kernel list about impedances,
which made it sound like many standard headsets would not give good audio,
because they have
2008/4/14, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
great news is that the Neo can use any USB charger.
I have a Neo 1973 and use it on a daily basis. The great thing is that
you don't need any special charger, you can use any $5 charger and it
works. There is a small program out there
As I understand it, the Freerunner will have four modules requiring antennas
- GSM, GPS, WiFi and Bluetooth. I know the GSM antenna is placed in the
bottom part of the phone, and the GPS antenna at the top.
Where are the WiFi and Bluetooth antennas placed? Are there actually 4
antennas, or are
2008/4/15, Matt Manjos [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Take a look at page 24 of this document:
Thanks, that was very interesting to see photos of a disassembled
Freerunner, details that are not on the Wiki
A couple of questions about the GSM antenna:
* the arced plastic, is it just a 'filler' to mount the metal antenna on? It
doesn't have some sort of core that is functionally important to the
* If one were to make a custom case for the Freerunner, could the metal
parts of the GSM antenna
2008/4/19, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Feature phones only differ between talk time and standby time.
For us, it's a bit more complicated, since we have more modes.
Can we agree on the following:
usage time = CPU is powered on, lots of peripherals have power and you're
2008/4/19, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Can the Freerunner resume on incoming call? If so, someone could
suspend the device and toss it in their pocket/purse, reap maximum
battery life AND keep the primary functionality intact. If it can't
resume on incoming call, I'd agree it's essentially
2008/4/24, Ingvaldur Sigurjónsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Just a reminder of Group Sales to Stockholm, Sweden.
If a group of 10 is reached does Openmoko send the packages to the first
name on the list ?
I'm guessing one of us will have to collect the money and pay for the whole
In preparation for The Big Day, I have some questions about how the shipping
from OpenMoko will work.
How much does one package (with a single phone) weigh (approximately)? What
will its dimensions be?
There's been talk about a hub in Europe, has that idea been scrubbed? IF
not, will it be in
Thanks for the quick answer, Steve.
2008/4/27 steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
just doing a quick check from UPS the shipment from the US [to Europe] for
a single phone would be on the order of 70 USD
For 10 phones the bulk is on the order of 160USD, which mean 16USD per
Could you offer
I thought about it some more, and USD 16/phone for a bulk order isn't enough
to make a fuss about (I assume that's insured).
But I think OpenMoko would sell more phones if you could offer shipping for
$19 instead of $70 (a big difference for an item costing $400) for single
phones. When the phone
2008/4/28 Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I would really like the option to use the USPS instead of UPS. UPS
charges much higher brokerage fees to bring a package into Canada
compared to the USPS.
If OpenMoko, Inc. won't do it, it sounds like a business opportunity for
someone living close
From another thread (on stylus attachment) it sounds like perhaps the case
design of the successor to the Freerunner is in progress.
Will the design process of the new case be open? In the sense that you might
show sketches of the design in progress, and collect opinions from the
I've created a Google group for organizing a Swedish group order of the
Feel free to join if you're interested, even if you're in a neigboring
country and want to join in.
2008/5/16 Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yeah, with or without extras the customs cost will be the same... and it
out (I think) at about $425 per phone - higher than the cost of an
order (which falls below the $1000 threshold and so doesn't attract customs
2008/5/17 Matthias Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I am wondering about applications possible with the Freerunner
(connected via usb) or later phone models, if a barometric altimeter
would be included.
I like the idea.
I was looking at Suunto watches a while back, and I think they had some way
I think the shipping from the US to Europe (I think it was on the order of
$70-120) will make it much more expensive to
order single units from the US than from a European reseller. And you would
probably get a better guarantee from a European reseller.
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's
But of course it would be nice if the audio out was less sensitive to
impedance issues than people have said the
2008/6/16 saurabh gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
So, I have written fixed point codes in which all calculations are handled
through fixed point. I have used the 16:16 notation for fixed point and used
32 bit integer to represent a fixed point.
FWIW, when I wrote an embedded speech
I've been eyeing the Jabra BT3030, which I think supports the above
profiles, and also allows you to connect your own earphones.
Disclaimer: I don't know if it works, but I like the idea of being able to
swap the earphones.
2008/6/30 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
okay...so a bluetooth headset
Would be possible to do some sort of bandwidth throttling of the GPRS data
connection, or pausing data traffic briefly with some interval to make sure
that incoming calls get through?
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2008/7/4 Kai Römer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I can affirm this for 6 opemoko devices. i guess its an internal
antenna issue. as soon as you connect a external antenna to it works
like a charm. but fur me thats no solution.
TTFF with external antenna (perfect condition): 40 to 60 seconds
2008/7/7 Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
We want to simplify around key communication points. What do you think
of the following:
1) Combine 'openmoko-devel' and 'distro-devel' into one list -- called
2) Remove 'device-owners'.
3) Remove 'hardware'.
Hmm, I ordered the 28th and have not heard from them since the confirmation
2008/7/8 Jan de Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Status changed to sent 20080702
On 7/7/08, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes! I've got mine!
2008/7/8 Jan de Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Status changed to sent 20080702
At what point did you pay Pulster? I placed the order, but have not received
Openmoko community mailing
I googled and found this:
A foldable, (but not flexible) keyboard. I don't know anything more about
it, but I like the idea better than the rollable membrane keyboards.
2008/7/11 Benedikt Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
has someone attached a secondary power suply to a OM device ?
I am thinking of adding a solar cell to the back of the Freerunner.
So that if it lies around on my desk it will get the standby power by
the solar cell and not from the battery.
How did you guys handle the gpsd for TangoGPS under 2008.8?
I thought 2008.8 used gypsy or a dbus-based gpsd or something. Will
installing gpsd conflict with whichever gypsy-solution is used on 2008.8?
Which gpsd package did you install, if that's what you did?
Thanks for the gtk files!
Should kernels and distributions be seen as independent (that is, can I
update a kernel separately from a distribution, and use one kernel with
multiple distributions), or should they be seen as dependent (each
distribution should have a separate kernel)?
I tried installing the FSO milestone 2 onto my SD card, but booting fails
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing init memory: 128K
Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init=option to
Well, telephony under OM2008.8 doesn't work for me (bug #1766,
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1766), so I'm trying to install FSO.
If I understand correctly, telephony is handled differently in 2008.8 and
FSO, where it's a qtopia app in 2008.8, and FSO is writing a dbus service to
2008/8/21 Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyway, with som many feeds about, which feeds should I use?
I think you want feeds from http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/...
Replace fso-testing with fso-unstable if that's what you're running.
For instance, my
2008/8/28 Alexey Kurochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When I run any program which uses GPS (Tango, locations, orrery,
agps-ui) after some time OM hangs and nothing works. The only remedy is
to remove the battery. On the other hand all these programs work fine
while GPS is turned off. Just turning on
According to Trolltech's documentation (
supports handwriting recognition.
Is there some way to get handwriting recognition to work on the OM 2008
I don't want to start a discussion about the pros and
2008/9/7 Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you're in Gothenburg you could buy mine, if you're really
I missed the original posting, but I'm in Stockholm, and again, if it's
really important to you I guess you could buy mine and I could buy a new
2008/9/8 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:21:58 +0200 Erland Lewin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2008/9/6 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:44:17 +0200 Holger Freyther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I got a new SDHC card, and tried installing FSO and OM2008.8 to boot off it.
I had problems, which I believe I tracked down to the fact that there are no
/dev/mmcblk0, /dev/mmcblk0p1, etc devices in the file systems distributed.
U-boot starts the kernel OK, but when the kernel tries to mount the
2008/12/3 Sargun Dhillon
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just out of curiosity, how many OpenMoko users out there would be
willing to pay for bounties? Additionally, how many developers would
work for bounties? What sort of bounties would you guys request? How
much would you pay?
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Simon Kagstrom
So: Do any of the
distributions allow easy use of bluetooth headsets? Are there active
projects working on this?
I'd be really interested in hearing reports about how well the Freerunner
2009/2/1 vale va...@gmx.de
Hi i tried this evening to get opera mini working with debian, i somehow
managed to get it started, but it gets X to hang after some seconds :( If
someone is interested how i got it to work:
1) install openjdk
2) get microemu (http://microemu.org/ ,
2009/2/9 vale va...@gmx.de
hm i have also problems with cacao and jamvm with other java programs as
(cachewolf), i think only openjdk seems to be mostly compatible with sun
java. but unfortunantly is not very fast :(
Where do you download openjdk from? Do you build it yourself? Can it be
2009/1/31 Tschaka stuff4tsch...@gmx.net
My main problem with the FR at the moment is that the volume in the built-in
earpiece, and wired headset as well are way too low. It works in a quiet
indoor environment, but on a busy street I can hardly hear that someone is
talking on the
2009/2/10 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Erland Lewin wrote:
2009/1/31 Tschaka stuff4tsch...@gmx.net
My main problem with the FR at the moment is that the volume in the
built-in earpiece, and wired headset as well are way too low
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