Re: Screenshots? (was: Balancing simplicity with complexity)

2007-08-22 Thread Erland Lewin
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: We went back to the drawing board with OpenedHand -- lead by their vast experience with GTK+, Matchbox, and mobile user interfaces -- and redesigned an incredibly promising new interface. Sounds great! Are there screenshots available anywhere? /Erland

Neo1973/OpenMoko as a laptop replacement

2007-11-15 Thread Erland Lewin
Please let me bounce an idea off the list... Given that the Neo1973 has similar processing power and screen resolution to what desktop machines had not too long ago, I think it would be cool if the user interface had a 'mode' where the Neo could work as a laptop replacement. I imagine a kit the

Re: Neo1973/OpenMoko as a laptop replacement

2007-11-16 Thread Erland Lewin
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 23:11 +0100, Erland Lewin wrote: I imagine a kit the size of a regular book for the Neo containing a fresnel lens with a frame for attaching to the phone, a foldable keyboard, a small mouse, and a battery pack loadable with, say, 2 regular 'C' size batteries. Ted

Re: Community Updates not working well and GTA02b4 in february

2007-11-30 Thread Erland Lewin
Christ van Willegen wrote: I've gathered from the e-mails that the GTA02 will be distributed to end users in Februari. What e-mails are you referring to? Have I missed a community update? I find it frustrating that important information is not released through the community update process,

Re: Community update, GTA02v5 status?

2007-12-21 Thread Erland Lewin
Thanks for the updates, Michael. Any update on how the GTA02v5 evaluation is proceeding? /Erland ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Display power consumption

2007-12-28 Thread Erland Lewin
Thomas Gstädtner wrote: does somebody know if it is possible to turn off the Neo's display? Currently only the backlight is disabled and the display still stays on (what's totally useless and a waste of energy). Does anybody have any idea how much energy just updating/driving the display

Re: OpenMoko chart plotter: lib for reading commercial nautical charts? [was: tangoGPS 0.7 is out - lots of improvements]

2008-03-06 Thread Erland Lewin
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 01:37 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Looking at the demos it seems to be a really good project, the support for the OSM maps is good, but what about integrating support for libgarmin to allow using also free and commercial garmin maps (of course, waiting OSM

Re: Metal case [was: Application idea: Bicycle computer]

2008-03-06 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/3/6, JW [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why do people want metal cases so much...???Features in wiki hardware wishlist too. My main reason for wanting a metal case is that it ages better than plastic. I carry my phone (currently a Sony Ericsson P910) in my pocket, and even though I try to keep

OpenMoko and Opera Mini?

2008-04-01 Thread Erland Lewin
Does OpenMoko run Opera Mini? Opera mini is Java, right, so it should run if OpenMoko has Java support? And I think I've seen that there is at least some initial Java support in OpenMoko, correct me if I'm wrong. Has anyone tried it? I realize that Opera Mini is closed-source, but IMHO it's a

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-07 Thread Erland Lewin
Will Opera Mini run on the Freerunner? I asked this before, but didn't get a reply. I assume it depends on how well J2ME works on the Freerunner. IMHO, the Opera Mini design (compressing and optimizing web pages before sending them to the phone) is excellent, because it saves traffic (=money)

Re: next costumers location

2008-04-13 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/4/13, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, if you consider that you've to pay the shipping costs from Usa or Asia in 10 or more people, instead that as an alone buyer I think that you gain really more than 30$-8€ ;) Well, that is the key question now for us in the EU - I

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-13 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/4/13, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add some other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers. There won't be a charger in the standard box? And I thought there was a custom charger allowing the Freerunner to charge

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-14 Thread Erland Lewin
Regarding a headset, how easy will it be to get a third party (wired, non-bluetooth) headset with decent sound for the Freerunner? I believe there was some discussion on the kernel list about impedances, which made it sound like many standard headsets would not give good audio, because they have

Re: Charger? (was: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)

2008-04-14 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/4/14, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] the great news is that the Neo can use any USB charger. I have a Neo 1973 and use it on a daily basis. The great thing is that you don't need any special charger, you can use any $5 charger and it works. There is a small program out there

Freerunner Antennas and Partially Metal Cases

2008-04-15 Thread Erland Lewin
As I understand it, the Freerunner will have four modules requiring antennas - GSM, GPS, WiFi and Bluetooth. I know the GSM antenna is placed in the bottom part of the phone, and the GPS antenna at the top. Where are the WiFi and Bluetooth antennas placed? Are there actually 4 antennas, or are

Re: Freerunner Antennas and Partially Metal Cases

2008-04-15 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/4/15, Matt Manjos [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Take a look at page 24 of this document: Thanks, that was very interesting to see photos of a disassembled Freerunner, details that are not on the Wiki

GSM antenna modification

2008-04-17 Thread Erland Lewin
A couple of questions about the GSM antenna: * the arced plastic, is it just a 'filler' to mount the metal antenna on? It doesn't have some sort of core that is functionally important to the antenna? * If one were to make a custom case for the Freerunner, could the metal parts of the GSM antenna

Re: Terminology (was: Charging Neo Freerunner via USB port)

2008-04-19 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/4/19, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Feature phones only differ between talk time and standby time. For us, it's a bit more complicated, since we have more modes. Can we agree on the following: usage time = CPU is powered on, lots of peripherals have power and you're

Re: Terminology (was: Charging Neo Freerunner via USB port)

2008-04-19 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/4/19, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can the Freerunner resume on incoming call? If so, someone could suspend the device and toss it in their pocket/purse, reap maximum battery life AND keep the primary functionality intact. If it can't resume on incoming call, I'd agree it's essentially

Re: Group sales Sweden, Stockholm

2008-04-24 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/4/24, Ingvaldur Sigurjónsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a reminder of Group Sales to Stockholm, Sweden. [...] If a group of 10 is reached does Openmoko send the packages to the first name on the list ? I'm guessing one of us will have to collect the money and pay for the whole 10-pack,

Shipping questions, customer organized distribution in Europe

2008-04-27 Thread Erland Lewin
In preparation for The Big Day, I have some questions about how the shipping from OpenMoko will work. How much does one package (with a single phone) weigh (approximately)? What will its dimensions be? There's been talk about a hub in Europe, has that idea been scrubbed? IF not, will it be in

Re: Shipping questions, customer organized distribution in Europe

2008-04-27 Thread Erland Lewin
Thanks for the quick answer, Steve. 2008/4/27 steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: just doing a quick check from UPS the shipment from the US [to Europe] for a single phone would be on the order of 70 USD For 10 phones the bulk is on the order of 160USD, which mean 16USD per customer. Could you offer

Re: Shipping questions, customer organized distribution in Europe

2008-04-27 Thread Erland Lewin
I thought about it some more, and USD 16/phone for a bulk order isn't enough to make a fuss about (I assume that's insured). But I think OpenMoko would sell more phones if you could offer shipping for $19 instead of $70 (a big difference for an item costing $400) for single phones. When the phone

Re: Shipping questions, customer organized distribution in Europe

2008-04-28 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/4/28 Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would really like the option to use the USPS instead of UPS. UPS charges much higher brokerage fees to bring a package into Canada compared to the USPS. If OpenMoko, Inc. won't do it, it sounds like a business opportunity for someone living close

Community feedback on Industrial Design of Freerunner successor?

2008-05-03 Thread Erland Lewin
From another thread (on stylus attachment) it sounds like perhaps the case design of the successor to the Freerunner is in progress. Will the design process of the new case be open? In the sense that you might show sketches of the design in progress, and collect opinions from the community? Can

Swedish group order list

2008-05-12 Thread Erland Lewin
Hello, I've created a Google group for organizing a Swedish group order of the Freerunner. Feel free to join if you're interested, even if you're in a neigboring country and want to join in. /Erland

Re: Value of headsets and pouches for 10 pack orders?

2008-05-16 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/5/16 Chris Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yeah, with or without extras the customs cost will be the same... and it works out (I think) at about $425 per phone - higher than the cost of an individual order (which falls below the $1000 threshold and so doesn't attract customs charges). Can't

Re: Barometric altimeter on 'future' Freerunner ?

2008-05-17 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/5/17 Matthias Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am wondering about applications possible with the Freerunner (connected via usb) or later phone models, if a barometric altimeter would be included. I like the idea. I was looking at Suunto watches a while back, and I think they had some way

Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-21 Thread Erland Lewin
I think the shipping from the US to Europe (I think it was on the order of $70-120) will make it much more expensive to order single units from the US than from a European reseller. And you would probably get a better guarantee from a European reseller. /Erland

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Erland Lewin
My preference: A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02) But of course it would be nice if the audio out was less sensitive to impedance issues than people have said the

Re: GSoC Project status update 2: Speech Recognition in Open Moko

2008-06-16 Thread Erland Lewin
Hello Saurabh, 2008/6/16 saurabh gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So, I have written fixed point codes in which all calculations are handled through fixed point. I have used the 16:16 notation for fixed point and used 32 bit integer to represent a fixed point. FWIW, when I wrote an embedded speech

Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?

2008-06-30 Thread Erland Lewin
I've been eyeing the Jabra BT3030, which I think supports the above profiles, and also allows you to connect your own earphones. Disclaimer: I don't know if it works, but I like the idea of being able to swap the earphones. /Erland 2008/6/30 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: a bluetooth headset

Re: My word on GPRS (was: How Slow Is Fast?)

2008-07-03 Thread Erland Lewin
Would be possible to do some sort of bandwidth throttling of the GPRS data connection, or pausing data traffic briefly with some interval to make sure that incoming calls get through? ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Old GPS antenna bug surfacing? [was: GPS]

2008-07-05 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/7/4 Kai Römer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can affirm this for 6 opemoko devices. i guess its an internal antenna issue. as soon as you connect a external antenna to it works like a charm. but fur me thats no solution. TTFF with external antenna (perfect condition): 40 to 60 seconds TTFF with

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-07 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/7/7 Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We want to simplify around key communication points. What do you think of the following: 1) Combine 'openmoko-devel' and 'distro-devel' into one list -- called 'devel'. 2) Remove 'device-owners'. Sounds good. 3) Remove 'hardware'.

Re: Freerunner @ Shop

2008-07-08 Thread Erland Lewin
Hmm, I ordered the 28th and have not heard from them since the confirmation e-mail. /Erland 2008/7/8 Jan de Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ordered 20080627 Status changed to sent 20080702 Arrived 20080707 On 7/7/08, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes! I've got mine! (From

Re: Freerunner @ Shop

2008-07-08 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/7/8 Jan de Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ordered 20080627 Status changed to sent 20080702 Arrived 20080707 At what point did you pay Pulster? I placed the order, but have not received payment instructions. /Erland ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Erland Lewin
I googled and found this: A foldable, (but not flexible) keyboard. I don't know anything more about it, but I like the idea better than the rollable membrane keyboards. Here's

Re: Secondary Power Suply

2008-07-11 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/7/11 Benedikt Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: has someone attached a secondary power suply to a OM device ? I am thinking of adding a solar cell to the back of the Freerunner. So that if it lies around on my desk it will get the standby power by the solar cell and not from the battery.

Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - how to do gpsd?

2008-08-12 Thread Erland Lewin
How did you guys handle the gpsd for TangoGPS under 2008.8? I thought 2008.8 used gypsy or a dbus-based gpsd or something. Will installing gpsd conflict with whichever gypsy-solution is used on 2008.8? Which gpsd package did you install, if that's what you did? Thanks for the gtk files! /Erland

How are kernels and distributions related?

2008-08-13 Thread Erland Lewin
Should kernels and distributions be seen as independent (that is, can I update a kernel separately from a distribution, and use one kernel with multiple distributions), or should they be seen as dependent (each distribution should have a separate kernel)? /Erland

How do I install FSO on the SD card

2008-08-17 Thread Erland Lewin
Hello, I tried installing the FSO milestone 2 onto my SD card, but booting fails saying: [...] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly. Freeing init memory: 128K Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init=option to kernel.

Re: FSO vs. OM2008.8

2008-08-18 Thread Erland Lewin
Well, telephony under OM2008.8 doesn't work for me (bug #1766,, so I'm trying to install FSO. If I understand correctly, telephony is handled differently in 2008.8 and FSO, where it's a qtopia app in 2008.8, and FSO is writing a dbus service to handle

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973 - opkg update doesn't work

2008-08-21 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/8/21 Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, with som many feeds about, which feeds should I use? I think you want feeds from Replace fso-testing with fso-unstable if that's what you're running. For instance, my

Re: GPS hardlocks OM2008.08

2008-08-28 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/8/28 Alexey Kurochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I run any program which uses GPS (Tango, locations, orrery, agps-ui) after some time OM hangs and nothing works. The only remedy is to remove the battery. On the other hand all these programs work fine while GPS is turned off. Just turning on

QTopia full screen handwriting on OM2008?

2008-09-01 Thread Erland Lewin
Hello, According to Trolltech's documentation (, QTopia supports handwriting recognition. Is there some way to get handwriting recognition to work on the OM 2008 distribution? I don't want to start a discussion about the pros and

Re: Anyone can sell me a phone in Sweden over the next 5 days?

2008-09-08 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/9/7 Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you're in Gothenburg you could buy mine, if you're really desperate. :) I missed the original posting, but I'm in Stockholm, and again, if it's really important to you I guess you could buy mine and I could buy a new one. /Erland fre 2008-09-05

Fwd: OM ppl: Fixes making into upgraded packages [was: Re: memory usage/leaks ?]

2008-09-10 Thread Erland Lewin
/Om2008.8/...)? /Erland 2008/9/8 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:21:58 +0200 Erland Lewin [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: 2008/9/6 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:44:17 +0200 Holger Freyther [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled

Problems with SD boot of FSO, OM 2008.8, add /dev/mmcblk0... to distros?

2008-09-19 Thread Erland Lewin
I got a new SDHC card, and tried installing FSO and OM2008.8 to boot off it. I had problems, which I believe I tracked down to the fact that there are no /dev/mmcblk0, /dev/mmcblk0p1, etc devices in the file systems distributed. U-boot starts the kernel OK, but when the kernel tries to mount the

Re: Bounties?

2008-12-03 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/12/3 Sargun Dhillon [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Just out of curiosity, how many OpenMoko users out there would be willing to pay for bounties? Additionally, how many developers would work for bounties? What sort of bounties would you guys request? How much would you pay? I

Re: Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

2008-12-18 Thread Erland Lewin
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Simon Kagstrom wrote: [...] So: Do any of the distributions allow easy use of bluetooth headsets? Are there active projects working on this? I'd be really interested in hearing reports about how well the Freerunner works in

Re: [debian] opera mini .. ?

2009-02-08 Thread Erland Lewin
Hi vale, 2009/2/1 vale Hi i tried this evening to get opera mini working with debian, i somehow managed to get it started, but it gets X to hang after some seconds :( If someone is interested how i got it to work: 1) install openjdk 2) get microemu ( ,

Re: [debian] opera mini .. ?

2009-02-09 Thread Erland Lewin
2009/2/9 vale hm i have also problems with cacao and jamvm with other java programs as (cachewolf), i think only openjdk seems to be mostly compatible with sun java. but unfortunantly is not very fast :( Where do you download openjdk from? Do you build it yourself? Can it be

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Erland Lewin
2009/1/31 Tschaka 2) Calls My main problem with the FR at the moment is that the volume in the built-in earpiece, and wired headset as well are way too low. It works in a quiet indoor environment, but on a busy street I can hardly hear that someone is talking on the

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Erland Lewin
2009/2/10 Al Johnson On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Erland Lewin wrote: 2009/1/31 Tschaka 2) Calls My main problem with the FR at the moment is that the volume in the built-in earpiece, and wired headset as well are way too low