Re: GSoC 2008: Call for ideas

2008-03-10 Thread Ilja O.
Hello. In my opinion, there are some highly usable project proposals in wish list, that could be done by student (like me, heh-heh-heh...) during summer. First things first: platform should provide more than one GUI binding solutions. In my opinion binding framework porting priority is (decreasing)

Re: GSoC 2008: Call for ideas

2008-03-11 Thread Ilja O.
Sqlite port would be nice thing to have. (With C/C++/Python bindings, of course) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-14 Thread Ilja O.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wake up, folks, the Neo/Freerunner/whatever is *NEVER* going to be > available as a "consumer" device. It's *always* going to be a [etc... etc... etc... ] C'mon. If you don't like it - leave. Yes, Linux-based phone won't be consum

GSoC & Freerunner

2008-03-18 Thread Ilja O.
I'd like to ask - what is probability of Greerunner hardware to be ready by the summer? (aka "Will I have my Freerunner when GSoC starts?") ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/commun

GSoC ideas discussion (again)

2008-03-22 Thread Ilja O.
Hi all. I'm currently assembling GSoC proposal (student-side, Openmoko-related of course). I gave some thought to the projects themes, and here what I can see as projects, that I'd like to do (list sorted by 'me want to do this' in decreasing order). 1) Accelerometer gestures 2) Two USB device mo

Re: GSoC ideas discussion (again)

2008-03-22 Thread Ilja O.
> > 2) Two USB device mode (Is this correct mode name?) -- NIC (as it is > > now) and HDD. > > There no magic for it needed. You connect USB Host cable -> powered hub -> > NIC and (if you have proper module installed) it appears as network card. > Same with HDD, webcams, keyboards, mouses and

Re: GSoC 2008

2008-03-23 Thread Ilja O.
Seems that hardware is quite likely to become available before summer. (This is only my opinion and I'm not related to Openmoko otherwise than being listed in community and kernel mailing lists). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmo

Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

2008-04-18 Thread Ilja O.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Andrea Debortoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be > available some days after... I will. I also will learn a "bit of electronics" to fix it. (Since for me it's fun to learn new things... Ant i al

Group sales: Riga/Latvia

2008-04-27 Thread Ilja O.
Hello. I've started group sales section for Riga/Latvia ( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Latvia ). Please, join. Prove that I'm not alone. Cheers. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mail

Re: 10 or more phones order

2008-04-28 Thread Ilja O.
> > I just can't leave it like that. :-) > > if (phones_ordered % 10 * PRICE_1 > PRICE_10_PACK) > phones_ordered += 10 - phones_ordered % 10; Is this really necessary? what this code is for? And where are comments? :) ___ Openmoko community mailin

Re: 10 or more phones order

2008-04-28 Thread Ilja O.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Federico Lorenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And why is it not in Python? > > It would be too easy to read. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/co

Re: 10 or more phones order

2008-04-28 Thread Ilja O.
> > So why's it not in Perl then, > You could do all that in a simple one-liner... > > ;o) > > I don't know Perl :( But I could try to write on z/OS HLASM. Or Erlang... Btw, it could be simple one-liner in Python too. Like this: phone_count = 42 _orders = ["BOX" for _i in xrange(phone_coun

Re: 10 or more phones order

2008-04-29 Thread Ilja O.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM, Federico Lorenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Haha, one of the bests laughs I've had on here! Although I'm pretty > sure it violates PEP 346356 which clearly states that thou should not > use exec and base64 :) > If you think that python one-liner without base64

Re: Invest in automated build system (and one extra person to manageit) SOON

2008-05-01 Thread Ilja O.
> > Or somebody could set up a build server at home that automatically updates a > wiki status.. > I have quite powerfull server at my home (Phenom 9600, 4 gigs of ram, Debian, *lots* of free space) that is idling most of the time. So, if somebody would help me to setup build environement (or at l

Willing to join any EU group sale.

2008-05-03 Thread Ilja O.
Hi. I'm living in Latvia (EU) and willing to join group sales (since, as far as I understand, buying 10 pack will yield for lower taxes, and, of curse, free pouch...). But it seems that there is nobody in my country (but me) willing to buy Freerunner now (two friends of mine are waiting me to test

Re: Group Sales Page

2008-05-05 Thread Ilja O.
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Dirk Deimeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > still giving a 404 to me. > > can you see the main page http://wiki.openmoko.org/ without error? > It redirects to http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/index.cgi Routing problem? __

Private data protection.

2008-05-27 Thread Ilja O.
Hello. Recent Lifehacher article [1] rose a privacy-related question in my head -- how to protect user personal data if phone is stolen? First of all - I assume that phone was stolen for it's physical contents (and not to steal your data), so attacker will likely just to turn it on, and won't att

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-30 Thread Ilja O.
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Christoph Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ilja O. wrote: >> >> 1) Auth using PIN number (this requires encrypted image presence in >> phone file system by it's boot time end -- not reallyl convenient if >> SD card is used). &

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-30 Thread Ilja O.
> I don't see point in making secure protection from somebody that has > stolen phone to obtain your data, since anything that phones' CPU will > be able to encrypt/decrypt without draining battery much faster than > it should be. ... Can be decrypted using desktop PC (or cluster of them) quite ea

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-30 Thread Ilja O.
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Ian Darwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vinc Duran wrote: >> >> I like the stolen phone sms message. > > Me too. When can I start erasing the phones of people I don't like? :-) You'll have to try hard to guess 120 random alphanumeric (at least) characters. ___

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Ilja O.
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Rahul Joshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The "very" first thing a phone thief does is throw away the SIM. No SIM, No > SMS, No protection.. erm.. destruction :) > When my friends phone got stolen it happened the other way - some people. whose numbers were in his ph

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Ilja O.
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 2:04 AM, Vinc Duran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You could make it longer too. I mean you could require receiving multiple > sms's. It could be a very long key. > Why bother? Even using only alphanumeric characters (I've counted 62 characters) there are more than 10^216 pos

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Ilja O.
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Ilja O. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...Or about 10^216 years to get 0.5% Oops, 10^206. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-31 Thread Ilja O.
> (warning: wild speculation) Does the GTA03 not > have flash? If so, you could partition the SD card, and then only unmount > the partition used for media storage. Having two memory card slots (one for OS, one easy accessible for usage with changeable memory cards) could be nicer than standard

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Ilja O.
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > I read an provocative estimate a year or so ago that each extra > character of a password adds only on average 1.5 bits of entropy to it. > ~ Considering how most passwords ar

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Ilja O.
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Joshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm no security expert but I'm pretty sure a lightweight 8 bit salt > encryption (security guys?) can give any dektop pc software enough trouble > to abort the attempt of trying to read a 256 meg worth of datacard, unless > i

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Ilja O.
> Also, processors are cheap these days one guy [1] has build 96-core > machine (for unknown price). > Sorry. That's 24 cores. He's planning to build 96-core next. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.or

Re: Private data protection.

2008-06-01 Thread Ilja O.
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Esben Stien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Rahul Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> The "very" first thing a phone thief does is throw away the SIM. > > That's why, if a presence security code is not typed in every nth > hour, the phone starts transmitting secre

Re: Private data protection.

2008-06-01 Thread Ilja O.
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Esben Stien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Rahul Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> The "very" first thing a phone thief does is throw away the SIM. > > That's why, if a presence security code is not typed in every nth > hour, the phone starts transmitting secre

Re: Private data protection.

2008-06-01 Thread Ilja O.
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Philippe Guillebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ilja O. wrote: >> >> Who says that this password will be created by human? Program should >> generate it automatically, shows it to user, user writes (or prints) >> it and saves in p

Re: Private data protection.

2008-06-01 Thread Ilja O.
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Esben Stien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Ilja O." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Current phone number would be enough information. SMS to a friend >> that gives this number to you... > > It's like being at

Re: atomic clock / radio-receiver chip

2008-06-01 Thread Ilja O.
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 9:26 PM, cdr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And portable thermonuclear bomb. Just in case. (Well, phone is already >> hand interface to several orbital atomic clocks, isn't it?) > > the atomic clock(s) arent orbiting the earth, > But why there are no clocks at the orbit? The

Re: atomic clock / radio-receiver chip

2008-06-01 Thread Ilja O.
> Huh, I'm a little confused about whats being spoken about here, but > the GPS satellites are effectively giant orbiting atomic clocks, its > the basis of GPS. > > Hey, > > According to wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS ), every GPS > satellite carries an atomic clock, providing ever

Re: new iphone

2008-06-01 Thread Ilja O.
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:21 AM, Christian Benke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good evening! > > So who of you is thinking about buying the new iphone instead of an > openmoko in case the technical specs really improve(3G, better > resolution)? Nope Well, first of all, iphone is not sold legally in

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Ilja O.
I can see death looking carefully at my piggy bank. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Debug Board v3 (GTA02) now available

2008-06-06 Thread Ilja O.
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Christoph Pulster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello community, > > may I add that I have the debug board now in my shop: > http://www.pulster.de/engl/ > index.html?d__omdebug__Openmoko_Debug_Board_Version_v3747.htm > > It's version 3 belonging to GTA02 Freerunner..

Re: InvisibleShield screen protectors

2008-06-06 Thread Ilja O.
I couldn't find predefined protector[s] for neo (not really a surprise, really). So, how to obtain one of these for Freerunner? We have CAD files, so I don't see problems with measuring case or screen. What should I (or we) do to obtain screen protector (or better -- full body one)? _

Re: InvisibleShield screen protectors

2008-06-08 Thread Ilja O.
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Martin Šenkeřík <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll probably want full case protection, as I want FreeRunner to stay with > me for more than one-two years as normal phones did :-) > > Same here ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: Debug Board v3 (GTA02) now available

2008-06-09 Thread Ilja O.
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:12 AM, Bastian Muck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess that there are many things which let the price raise. > 61€ + 19% vat = 73€ > Then you have to add shipping to germany. And in germany you have to > grant a warranty of at least 24 month for technical equipment. Usua

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-10 Thread Ilja O.
I'm sorry to break into your nice flamewar, but I've just wanted to ask: pro-QVGA people, are you serious? In two years (yep, that's when GTA03 will be released judging by GTA01-02) QVGA will be just like floppy drives on notebooks - totally non completive. And won't be because everybody *really

Re: regarding the 'data security' thread recently

2008-06-10 Thread Ilja O.
About data wipe: I was thinking -- doesn't eny SIM card have some kind of ID number? And if they do, do we have software way to obtain it? Phone could wipe itself if another SIM card is inserted AND upon SMS message receiving. If you have several SIM cards, than we could create simple SIM card

Re: regarding the 'data security' thread recently

2008-06-10 Thread Ilja O.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Federico Lorenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suppose the cell phone number should be more then unique enough. > > Yup. But I don't know if we're able to obtain it (don't see reason to RTFM before obtaining of Freerunner).

Re: regarding the 'data security' thread recently

2008-06-10 Thread Ilja O.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Benedikt Schindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ilja O. schrieb: > > About data wipe: > > > > I was thinking -- doesn't eny SIM card have some kind of ID number? > > And if they do, do we have software way to obtain it? >

Re: regarding the 'data security' thread recently

2008-06-10 Thread Ilja O.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Having said that, why wait for an incoming text? > Why not just have the phone wipe itself when the SIM card changes? > > That's what i was proposing from the beginning. ___ Openmok

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-11 Thread Ilja O.
me wants it too ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-11 Thread Ilja O.
"No" ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: debug board price change to 99 eur

2008-06-13 Thread Ilja O.
Thank you. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Anyone working on a cron port?

2008-06-15 Thread Ilja O.
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Peter J. Holzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-06-15 02:29:48 -0700, ian douglas wrote: > > Suppose I could check the project page, but it's 2:30am and I'm tired > > and lazy. I was updating and installing some software on my Freerunner > > tonight to test mp

Re: Why not use votation system?

2008-06-16 Thread Ilja O.
Openmoko has already embedded voting system. Named "If you want it -- write it" ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: order from pulster

2008-07-21 Thread Ilja O.
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Alexander Steinert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Selinger, Mon 2008-07-21 12:16 CEST: > > I have a small question. I ordered a freerunner @ pulster on 27th of > > june. Until now i just got an autoreply from their orderingsystem. Got > > no paying info, infor

InvisibleShield discounts!

2008-07-23 Thread Ilja O.
Hello there. I've ordered Full body protectors for Freerunner, and they gave me two discount (20%) codes. Here they are: 6lcdcr , jla5nt . Take them and use them wisely. (If you've used one, please write back to community there would be no discount code collision). Btw, The discount will exp

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-11 Thread Ilja O.
I've got confirmation @ Jul 24 "Your item has been shipped" message @ Jul 28 And received it today (11 Aug). That's in Europe. Quite slow, but you'll eventually get it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmok

om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-20 Thread Ilja O.
Hello. I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0 version of om-manager. Om-manager is host computer-based Freerunner controlling utility. Currently it's able to flash Freeruner smartphone (dfu-util required), get logs, backup filesystem parts (to archive file on host compu

Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-21 Thread Ilja O.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Yorick Moko wrote: > I installed python 3.0 on windows xp (sp3) from > http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.0/python-3.0.msi > but when i try to run it I get > > F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app>run.py > File "F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py", line 78 >print usag

Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-21 Thread Ilja O.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Lech Karol Pawłaszek wrote: > Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster wrote: > [...] > > Not that i think it has much to do with your error, but you do know how > > windows handles ssh? > > (the answer is: not at all, because windows doesn't know ssh or anything > > alse t

Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-21 Thread Ilja O.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Yorick Moko wrote: > downloaded the 2.6.1 and now i get: > > F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app>run.py > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py", line 7, in >from app import logger, gui > ImportError: No module named app > > O

Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-21 Thread Ilja O.
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Ilja O. wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Lech Karol Pawłaszek wrote: > >> Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster wrote: >> [...] >> > Not that i think it has much to do with your error, but you do know how >> > win

Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-21 Thread Ilja O.
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Petr Vanek wrote: > >I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0 > >version of om-manager. > > Wanted to try but: > > van...@laptop-vanek:~/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager$ ./run.sh > = UNHALTED EXCEPTION = > Traceback (most recen

Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-22 Thread Ilja O.
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:46 AM, KaZeR wrote: > Woopsie. Looks like i sent a blank mail, apologies. > > I tried it under windows : i had to create the app\log directory, or it > would fail. ( IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: > 'D:\\OM\\om-manager_00.01.00.tar\\dist\\om-manager\\app

Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-22 Thread Ilja O.
> > > Thanks for the clarification. I installed wxPython, but now it complains > about yaml. Would you happen to have a full list of what's needed to use > om-manager? About Yaml, is it this one? http://pyyaml.org/ > > You can find full list at the main page of project ( http://code.google.com/p/om

Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-22 Thread Ilja O.
> > > > > Uh, right. > > Three comments, after 10 seconds of use : > - nice Thanks! [grin] > > - detect user's homedir, instead of defaulting to /Users/ilya/Documents ? Sorry, distro wrapper didn't erase plugin configs before er... creating distribution. (I only use svn checkout, really). I

Re: No GSM 2008.08 testing

2008-09-03 Thread Ilja O.
I've received Freerunner and istalled testing daily build today. Same error here. Also, it's nice that no package depends on qtopia-phone-x11-composer-emailcomposer, qtopia-phone-x11-composer-genericcomposer, qtopia-phone-x11-composer-mmscomposer, qtopia-phone-x11-viewer-genericviewer, qtopia-pho

Disabling keyboard auto-complete

2008-09-11 Thread Ilja O.
Hi all. I've found a way to completely disable keyboard's auto-prediction (or s it auto-complete?) feature. do via shell: {{{ echo "" > /opt/Qtopia/etc/dict/en_US/common.dawg echo "" > /opt/Qtopia/etc/dict/en_US/words.dawg }}} then restart X (or phone) and enjoy this feature completely destroy

Re: *new version* A little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo

2008-09-13 Thread Ilja O.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:13 AM, Charles Pax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So at some point here I'm guessing Zenity will have to be dropped in favor > of maybe a Python + Glade combination. Is anyone out there capable and > willing to do such a thing? It should probably happen sooner rather than >

Re: *new version* A little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo

2008-09-15 Thread Ilja O.
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:13 AM, fredrik normann < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> > I have been developing small python wx-based gui that currently can be >> used >> > for flashing, log data obtaining and is able to do some b

Re: Buying Openmoko GTA02 from Europe

2007-08-23 Thread Ilja O.
2007/8/22, Jean-Eric Cuendet (ML) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > It seems that a big problem we have here in Europe to get Openmoko > devices is that the shiping costs are quite high: around 80-100USD !! > > I've opened a website that will sell GTA02 devices when they are > available, to other Europe

Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?

2007-12-11 Thread Ilja O.
> This isn't exactly true. In some dual-SIM phones that have recently > entered the market, such as Fly B700 Duo, both SIM cards can be used > simultaneously without the need for any kind of switching. > > It was already said that two SIMs working simultaneously would require two trancievers. This