Re: Possibilities for commercial software?

2007-01-26 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Harald Welte wrote: So I sincerely doubt that OpenMoko would ever actively support proprietary applications (e.g. by DRM hooks). We certainly cannot do anything against them, though. GPLv3? Paul ___ OpenMoko community mailing

Re: Possibilities for commercial software?

2007-01-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Simon wrote: GPLv3? The GPLv3 does nothing to stop people from using DRM to protect proprietary software. Yeah, but try writing DRM sofware without the GNU software, which includes glibc for your proprietary software (which realisticly, would be linked against a GPLv3

Re: Possibilities for commercial software?

2007-01-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, David Schlesinger wrote: I still don't see how trying to limit people's choices is more free than letting them make their own choices. You are leaving out one important issue here. The free market is in fact already forcing non-free decisions on you. You can try to avoid

Re: Voice over GPRS?

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Robert Michel wrote: Does anybody has experiances/ideas about Voice over GPRS? See: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rc277/globe02.pdf They discuss tcp as well as udp performance over GPRS. How long is the delay? It could maybe used for asyncron voice communication Talk2Talk

Re: Voice over GPRS?

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile Embedded wrote: Also, most data plans specifically prohibit VoIP usage and may even prevent it technically. AFAIK, only T-Mobile did that, and they removed that clause a few months ago. Paul

Re: Voice over GPRS?

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Andreas Kostyrka wrote: AFAIK, only T-Mobile did that, and they removed that clause a few months ago. Eplus does have that clause too. Ahh, not too familiar with the German markets. Plus running standard VoIP protocols like SIP and friends over a NAT firewall that

Re: Encrypting voice comunications..

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Mikko J Rauhala wrote: No. The GSM processor does its own audio de- and encoding, and its And echo cancellation. When using any VOIP app, you will need to put in your own echo cancelation code. I listened to the Windows Mobile 5 Skype client, and even that was pretty awfull.

Re: Crytped calls through 9600Baud GSM-data connections?

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Robert Michel wrote: Did you discussed OTP, using less mobile device batterypower to add to the voicestream to build an encrypted connection between on users mobil and his homeserver? Nope. In general, devices these days have enough cpu power to just do AES. CPU isn't the

Re: Voice over GPRS?

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Mikko Rauhala wrote: Of course, you can make a GSM data call (I presume) and thus reserve That's what www.cryptophone.de does to avoid latency issues. Some networks block mobile to mobile data calls though. Righto, so somebody's doing it already on free software.

Re: Voice over GPRS?

2007-02-03 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Ian Stirling wrote: Even a really anemic processor can manage AES or whatever at 8Kbit/sec, in realtime. However, as a near-zero CPU option, you could always use one-time-pads from the SD. Key management is substantially more annoying - you need 3M or so of pad per

Re: Itch3: Anti-lost/theft protection

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Personally I like the idea of periodic SMS messages with the lat/lon/altitude. When in stolen mode, having the phone receive SMS msgs containing commands for the phone would seem to be very useful. The first thing that happens to a stolen

Re: 'My Account' - a way to store information about the phones owner, so they can be reunited if it's lost.

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Ian Stirling wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/My_Account is an overview of some ideas. Briefly, a way for anyone with the phone to access a history of the phone (bought/sold status, reported as stolen, ...), a way for the user to set these as well as contact

Re: 'My Account' - a way to store information about the phones owner, so they can be reunited if it's lost.

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Ian Stirling wrote: Reflashing never gets you back a different account number, it keys off the IMEI, which is not flashable. (well, perhaps it is, but it's not flashable from the linux side, and AIUI, nobody else knows how at the moment.) I really hope the IMEI number is

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-18 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007, Steven Milburn wrote: First, if one concedes that the typical sensor can be easily fooled, I still think fingerprint sensors tend to add security to most phones. That's because I think most users cannot be bothered to hide data behind a decent pass phrase they would have

Re: How many women on OpenMoko?

2007-07-05 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007, london cowgirl wrote: It's important that OpenMoko is designed with both sexes in mind (especially since women love to talk to so much). Are you trying to fight a prejudice by using a prejudice (even if meant jokingly)? The women in technology debate is about the extra

Location Privacy Protocols, was Re: GPS trail - crazy idea

2007-07-05 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007, Werner Almesberger wrote: Trails of multiple users, shared in real time, would be the killer application. I don't think anyone is doing that at the moment. A typical scenario would be to meet someone in a city both don't know. Street names aren't very useful, but knowing

Re: IM application and other questions

2007-07-05 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007, Jeff Andros wrote: 1. Is the IM application SMS based or data plan based? What were you planning to code? Semi-serious. There isn't one. Do we have any pidgin devs on here? how heavy is libpurple, it would be really sweet to build a mobile version (what kind of

Re: IM application and other questions

2007-07-05 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 6 Jul 2007, Nick Johnson wrote: Is anyone more familiar with OpenMoko and the Neo able to give a quick overview of what's involved? Am I right in assuming that all that's required is a UI and an understanding of the AT commands to send and receive SMS messages? If so, I may have a

Re: Possible App - Security

2007-07-18 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, COMINT wrote: I'm interested in putting together an encryption app to allow secure voice calls over the GSM data call facility. You need IP layer encryption, not application based enpcryption. So ipsec, openvpn, l2tpd, OTR, GPG. I'd recommend using IPsec with a ppp

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, flexd wrote: the day nvidia comes with open drivers for this... we can begin to take an interest :) To be honest, (i myself do not really care if the drivers are open or not, i do not have the require level of geekyness to change them :p) i couldnt care less if the

Re: handwriting recognition?

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, ramsesoriginal wrote: As far as i know, there's already a handwriting rekognition on the openmoko.. Can we use it to unlock the phone instead of using a pincode? :) Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-27 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Nelson Castillo wrote: I think encrypted messages are crucial for freedom. I also think most people don't know how easy it is for others to see what they send through the networks. I cannot wait to see those Encrypted messages traveling free through _their_ networks to

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Paul Wouters
At LinuxTag 2008 I learned that Motorola is giving you the kernel sources but are using signed kernels and the bootloader to prevent you from putting your own kernel on the device. I expect that phones provided by LIMO and OHA will have the same 'feature'. Unfortunately its the linux

slightly off topic: Rogers Canada slashes data plan pricing

2008-07-09 Thread Paul Wouters
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080709.wgtiphone0709/BNStory/Technology/home?cid=al_gam_mostemail Customers who purchase an iPhone and sign up for a three-year contract any time between July 11 – when the device goes on sale – and the end of

Re: $106 in Brokerage!!?!!?!

2008-07-15 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Matt Manjos wrote: NEVER again am I shipping with UPS, if I can avoid it. I've found their brokerage fees are almost always applied and they're always ridiculous. We had no choice. It was the only shipping option into Canada, and Koolu seemed way sketchier with their

Re: maps for others country?

2008-08-17 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sat, 9 Aug 2008, Tick Chen wrote: Yes, Locations will automatically download maps from Open Street Maps. IF the backend found that it can access to the network. Therefore, you can create your own personal map, (even package for sharing). How? 1. Let Neo connect to the Internet. 2.

Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1

2008-12-17 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Marcus Bauer wrote: * GPS works out of the box It comes as a tarball, thus you need a 2 GB SD card (SanDisk work well) Is the GPS+SD card problem solved yet? Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list

re: spam

2009-01-25 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, arne anka wrote: the best course of action, is to delete an forget it, the subject is a pretty good hint ... And perhaps for openmoko to start publishing SPF records Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list