Re: Question about USB WiFi and Bluetooth (again but somewhat new; )

2006-11-15 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Koen, Alessandro, *! I' just a student interested in OpenMoko, so I have my information like you from the news, the webpage and this list. But don't trust to much some newsarticles and to avoid to become disappointed, don't expected to much. On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Koen Kooi wrote: Koen Why

power of apt-get install example: Linksys NSLU2 is now official supported by Debian installer, 2. free ARM emulator QEMU

2006-11-16 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Some stimulation, especialy for those who didn't use Debian (daily), and those who can't wait to get a Neo1973 - in this email: 1. Linksys NAS NSLU2 (ARM CPU) is now officiall supported by the Debian installer 1.b (Reminder of the use for additional signal lines on the PCB) 2.

Re: A marketing angle

2006-11-21 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ben! just as a remark - I'm just a student, loving the OpenMoko/Neo1973 project... On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Ben F-W wrote: I agree that it's likely to become very popular with a limited market: the developers. What I was trying to decide in my email was whether that would be enough to

Re: imagine: [a lot of things]

2006-11-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve collin, *! On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 11/22/06 2:38 AM, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been playing with http://live.gnome.org/GeoClue lately, which is pretty neat stuff. Having a dbus service that has

Please go on ;) Re: GPS App idea

2006-11-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve collin! On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Joe Bushong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All I really want from the Neo is a GPS application that helps me when I have gone senile and can't find my car in a big parking lot. Ideally it would constantly monitor my speed and mark the

Maybe two phone calls via 9.6 kbit/s data call possible Re: encrypted phone calls ; )

2006-11-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Robert Michel schrieb am Donnerstag, den 23. November 2006 um 02:11h: But to stopp your/our BT yelling, I will do it already now: Sorry, I wanted to focus on the core potential of this phone and what does me let not sleep? ;) So excuse me - but this idee must be free: If the phone

Which emulators will be running fine on the Neo1973?

2006-11-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Starting just a new thread with the aim to collect experiances, ideas, informations and links about using emulators with the Neo. Because of the 640x480 screen it will become handy to emulate other hardware like PalmPilot, HP48 and display just the hardwarebuttons of this devices. So a

Re: Open Moko - GPL?

2006-11-27 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Steve! On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, Steve Salazar wrote: Wow, thanks for all the very quick responses. Sorry if I sounded a little confrontational or if some of my questions were already answered in other posts but, you know, you get a little skeptical and this project does *almost* seem

Re: From A Carrier

2006-11-27 Thread Robert Michel
Hello Ylanan! Hey somebody from a mobil operator active on this list, this is great! Welcome! You must know that this is the community list and I'm like most of the others not employed at FIC and I do not have internal informations, I'm just a student at Aachen university (Germany) and very

Re: More about AGPS and costs

2006-11-27 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean! On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Global Locate told me that they think the GPS costs are as follows: * MS-A - data time (operator) + Server charges (not clear who runs the server.) * MS-B - data time (operator) + Server charges (not clear who runs the server.)

Re: (re)charging control

2006-11-28 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Marcin! On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: Dnia poniedzia??ek, 27 listopada 2006 18:30, Robert Michel napisa??: On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: 1. user is at home (where is charger) Sorry, I was so happy that this phone will do not need a propritary

Small evaluation,city: 4 Internet Cafes, 3 Copy Shops, 2 Photo services; university: 1 library , 1 computer room

2006-11-29 Thread Robert Michel
Salve, I yesterday I thought about: - internt cafes - b/w, coulor printing - photo printing services So my small quick evaluation in my neighbourhood with 11 localisations, result overview: - everywhere were USB Mass Storage devices supported :) - Wlan only at the area of my university - no

xpdf,webbrowser ideas

2006-11-29 Thread Robert Michel
Salve, pdf has one disadvantage (what is an advantage as well), the document will be shown, as the designer wanted it. So when he loves a big white frame around the text it nag me already with a SVGA (1024x768) every page I have to move to the right and down to see more text instead of silly

feedback on v2 rabatt idea Re: Open Moko - GPL?

2006-11-29 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ole! On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Ole Tange wrote: On 11/29/06, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/29/06 9:18 PM, Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /Ole (Who would go for version 1 if there is a trade-up option. Otherwise wait for version 2). A trade up option is

multicolour multi-touch screen Re: OpenMoko/Neo1973 is pure (r)evolution :))) - do you recognized the power of multi-touch gesture recognition

2006-11-29 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! For this text colour point and coloured fingertip are equivalent Robert Michel schrieb am Samstag, den 25. November 2006 um 04:22h: A grafic, that explain the design of a multi-touch screen sensor: http://cs.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirsense/index.html I was worried about dirt or the behavior

Re: multicolour multi-touch screen Re: OpenMoko/Neo1973 is pure (r)evolution :))) - do you recognized the power of multi-touch gesture recognition

2006-11-29 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Robert Michel schrieb am Mittwoch, den 29. November 2006 um 20:02h: Or for the power user, paint different color points on your finger tips (multiple (different) coloured points on one or more of your Ok nerds would paint their finger tips with colour, but who else? What about light

keylock with the use of multi-touch sensor, clinometer to lock and anlock

2006-11-29 Thread Robert Michel
Salve, because I know *now* that the Neo1973 has a whole for a string to wear it at your neck - I have some ideas... of course optional and not by default - but when the normal standby position would be vertical - at your neck or in your pocket - so when using the smartphone, you will put it

Please think about incrementel sync Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Jeff,*! When it will be only adresses, todo, memo - syncML is build to do this. But please via a secure network - Siemens offer this unencrypted. *help*help*help*help* On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Jeff Andros wrote: for uploading sets of data they could be implelented in almost any lauguage

Greetings from Sergei Bubka ;) - Re: Open Moko - GPL?

2006-11-29 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ole, Sean! On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On 11/30/06 12:41 AM, Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come to think of it: You should always value your customers and give them incentive to buy more from you. So a trade up might apply to the v2-v3 transition as well.

Re: fm/lw/mw radio receiver but also fm radio transmitter and PRM/LPD/CB transeiver - and PacketRadio.... ; )

2006-12-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Make things dual or multiuse: And on of the two buttons of the Neo1973 could be build good enough to be used for fast/good morsing switch-key. *g* FM antennae - without earphones maybe the cord around the neck could have cupper inside and the whole of the Neo1973 for this cord has an

DECT Re: fm/lw/mw radio receiver but also fm radio transmitter and PRM/LPD/CB transeiver - and PacketRadio.... ; )

2006-12-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! To phone via a dect module would costs less power then WLAN - so such an option would be nice, too. rob ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: DECT Re: fm/lw/mw radio receiver but also fm radio transmitter and PRM/LPD/CB transeiver - and PacketRadio.... ; )

2006-12-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Robert Michel schrieb am Freitag, den 01. Dezember 2006 um 12:39h: Salve! To phone via a dect module would costs less power then WLAN - so such an option would be nice, too. It would be fun to use DECT on the road - when a Neo would have the power for two DECT connections, go

Re: Is it portable? [scanned]

2006-12-05 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Markus! I'm just a student interested in Openmoko/Neo1973 and I'm no expert for embedded systems - but I think it is so obvious that there will be no Linux running on a XDA in the next time that I think I could give you this anwswer: Markus Stehr schrieb am Dienstag, den 05. Dezember 2006

Re: Is it portable? [scanned]

2006-12-05 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Oleg! Oleg Gusev schrieb am Dienstag, den 05. Dezember 2006 um 14:22h: Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2006 13:32 schrieb Robert Michel: I'm no expert for embedded systems - but I think it is so obvious that there will be no Linux running on a XDA in the next time The only reason

Re: Is it portable? [scanned]

2006-12-05 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Dave! Dave Crossland schrieb am Dienstag, den 05. Dezember 2006 um 16:56h: On 05/12/06, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK FIC is supporting OpenMoko to build a plattform for their hardware - so why should FIC support developer to publish drivers for Motorola devices inside

Re: Is it portable? [scanned]

2006-12-05 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Oleg! Oleg Gusev schrieb am Dienstag, den 05. Dezember 2006 um 18:50h: Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2006 17:29 schrieb Robert Michel: AFAIK FIC is supporting OpenMoko to build a plattform for their hardware - so why should FIC support developer to publish drivers for Motorola devices

Re: Is it portable? [scanned]

2006-12-05 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Oleg! Oleg Gusev schrieb am Dienstag, den 05. Dezember 2006 um 18:54h: Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2006 18:43 schrieb Robert Michel: To think about to use this SDK for other phones, just from the beginning is in my eyes a little bit impolite - and thinking of other phones because

[hardware v1] GSM audio question

2006-12-06 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean, *! Beside serial at-command communication with the GSM chip, could I can get also the audio (encoded with the GSM-codec) undecoded from the GSM chip (as digital 9.6 or 14 KBit/s stream)? ==answering machine== Imagine an answer machine solution - it would be smart to fetch the

Re: ideas with SMS

2006-12-07 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Richard! On Thu, 07 Dec 2006, Richard Franks wrote: On 12/7/06, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ?cologne I will go to cologne by train on 10.12.2006 14:12h from Aachen central trainstaion. ?cologne.* Have affair at 19:00, don't tell wife or bishop. The issues I see

Re: 3G, etc. - is the Neo 1973 already out of date?

2006-12-07 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ben! No topic for Germany: http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/media/archive/5278.pdf Page 77, in 2005 has been in Germany an agreement that all frequenz holder can use the GSM frequencies until 31. December 2016. On Fri, 08 Dec 2006, Ben wrote: And just this week, the Australian Federal

voice prompts recording Re: ui customisation for accessibility

2006-12-08 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Matthew! On Fri, 08 Dec 2006, Matthew Wood wrote: Are you impaired yourself? Or does you work with impaired people? Will you like to join OpenMoko development? Yes, I am visually impaired myself, and I am a developer. And right now I need a new phone, and one that I can use ;-)

every data could saved like a wikiwiki

2006-12-08 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! I used MegaWiki on the PalmPilot, a hack that allows you to use the normal Palm application memo, calendar, todo, addressbook as wiki and of course the Wikpedia. So I love to see some links inbetween applications like MegaWiki for OpenMoko Todo * call [Frank] Frank [Markt 1] tapping on

GSM security question, mic directly connected to the GSM chip? Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-11 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean, Stefan, *! On Sun, 10 Dec 2006, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On 12/10/06 3:02 AM, Stefan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind that I'm not speaking for the FIC team here. The flash chips containing the BP OS will be able get new firmware flashed. I'm pretty sure that no GSM

SoC has no soundcard - which IC will do this? Re: audio link Re: Peer Discovery

2006-12-11 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Richard,*! BTW the SoC does not have a soundcard, which IC will do this job? http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/2410UserManual.pdf On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Richard Franks wrote: On 12/11/06, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: GSM security question, mic directly connected to the GSM chip? Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-12 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean! Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb am Dienstag, den 12. Dezember 2006 um 21:14h: So the firmware could be changed over the network without the chance to recognince that, right? Firmware for the GSM system is actually updated from the ear jack port. It cannot be updated over the air. I

Re: The audio IC Wolfson WM8753 is cool :)))))

2006-12-12 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Koen! On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Koen Kooi wrote: PS: Again, it seems that an FPGA between the I/O connectors and the other chips would encrease the power of the Neo1973, e.g. the FPGA could switch the second audio jack to mono output. As can a GPIO. Stop with the fpga nonsense

Re: GSM security question, mic directly connected to the GSM chip? Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-12 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Atlasz! Atlasz schrieb am Dienstag, den 12. Dezember 2006 um 18:09h: if you take apart a phone (any phone), you can always work-around thi problem by making a short electrical de-tour between a mic and the board of course - but it I do not care about me, it just would be more smart,

Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-12 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Richard! On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Richard Franks wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen_Buzz If the speaker can produce 17.4kHz then it could be sufficiently annoying to any potential 'teenage hooligan' running off with your phone. Because it has AGPS it could transmitt the location

[Neo1973] AGPS - globallocal cuckoo's egg? Re: AGPS server questions

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Harald, Sean! I fear AGPS from globallocal is a coockoo's egg - they anounced that their AGPS chips cost only 5 US$ - I fear they will make money with their AGPS server services http://www.globallocate.com/NETWORK/NET_AGPS_SERVER_Frameset.htm Like selling cheap pringer or mobiles and make

Re: [Neo1973] AGPS - globallocal cuckoo's egg? Re: AGPS server questions

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Mittwoch, den 13. Dezember 2006 um 14:54h: Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2006 13:57 schrieb Robert Michel: Maybe I don't know enough, but for me it smells like that globallocal AGPS is only used with AGPS servers - and with the risk that this server knows the location of every globallocal user after

Re: [Neo1973] AGPS - globallocal cuckoo's egg? Re: AGPS server questions

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Gabriel! Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Mittwoch, den 13. Dezember 2006 um 14:24h: On Wednesday 13 December 2006 13:57, Robert Michel wrote: I fear AGPS from globallocal is a coockoo's egg - they anounced that their AGPS chips cost only 5 US$ - I fear they will make money

Re: openmoko as a slimserver client or remote control

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Stefanie! On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Stefanie Tellex wrote: This requires wireless internet, but it wouldn't be hard to get a slimserver client running on the phone, so you could stream your mp3s to the phone and listen to them. Push a button, and your phone starts streaming music from your

Re: Global Locate Ephemeris Data

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Richard! Ahh, it seems that the idea of distributed lightning detection has inspired you for something (maybe) more usefull *g* On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, Richard Franks wrote: Would we be violating the license by redistributing this data, or additional data based entirely upon that data

Re: Global Locate Ephemeris Data

2006-12-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Richard, *! Robert Michel schrieb am Mittwoch, den 13. Dezember 2006 um 19:28h: GPS normaly needs the signal from 4 satellites - what about instead of making the accuracy higher, helping neo4 that could receive data from ony 3 satellites? What about synchronise Wi-Fi and broacasting

some more ideas with sound and LF/VLF Re: Idea: datatransmission using ultrasound

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ole! On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Ole Tange wrote: Apparently the Neo may be capable of transmitting ultrasound (20 KHz - around 45 KHz). If the Neo is also capable of receiving this (using the microphone) then we should be able to transmit data that way. This may be useful for close range

is there an open DSP on the market? Re: some more ideas with sound and LF/VLF Re: Idea: datatransmission using ultrasound

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Michel
Salve *! Robert Michel schrieb am Freitag, den 15. Dezember 2006 um 19:03h: -- guitare sound effecet - plug your Neo1973 between your Guitar/ebass and your amp (ohh they are normaly used as pedal - so the Neo must be stable or USB pedal is used ha! use sound commands

capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Rodolphe! On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Rodolphe Ortalo wrote: Le mardi 12 décembre 2006 à 20:41 +0100, Robert Michel a écrit : Salve Rodolphe! On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Rodolphe Ortalo wrote: Save some power of the battery for normal usage please! :-) Rodolphe The Stolen/Lost

emergency call - fallback to call without SIM Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Robert Michel schrieb am Freitag, den 15. Dezember 2006 um 19:45h: Did I alread mentioned the idea to have a capacitor parallel to the battery? So the Neo1973 cold call the police even without battery and the simcard and transmitt the coordinates of the phone. Without SIM card

Film Rain Man Re: some more ideas with sound and LF/VLF Re: Idea: datatransmission using ultrasound

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Robert Michel schrieb am Freitag, den 15. Dezember 2006 um 19:03h: Some more ideas about sound, not fully worked out: [...] I was shopping and heard the noice of coins http://www.baudline.com/mystery_signal/index.html http://www.speech.kth.se/snack/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainman

Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Tomasz! On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Tomasz Zielinski wrote: 2006/12/15, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. You could use a phone of a friend to send a SMS with a onetime code. The very first thing thief do is remove and throw away your SIM card. This thread is also about lost phones - so

Using FM Radios without cables as PA for the Neo1973 - Question, in which countries is it legal to use 50 nW (nano Watt) FM 87.5-108.0 Mhz transceiver?

2006-12-17 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! I haven't found a page with info in which contries 50 nW FM transceiver would be legal to use - I know only that in Germany (mayby EU) owning and using has become legal in spring 2006 (German official note): http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/media/archive/5005.pdf There are several small

Re: Using FM Radios without cables as PA for the Neo1973 - Question, in which countries is it legal to use 50 nW (nano Watt) FM87.5-108.0 Mhz transceiver?

2006-12-17 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Graham, *! Graham Auld schrieb am Sonntag, den 17. Dezember 2006 um 17:54h: Ofcom in the UK are due to legalise them this month, it seems they've decided on a standard which will allow these transmitters to be used in future throught the EU AFAIK,

Re: emergency call - fallback to call without SIM Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-18 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ben! Ben schrieb am Montag, den 18. Dezember 2006 um 11:47h: On 12/16/06, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without SIM card is the keyword. There are people got into trouble, especialy in the mountains and they didn't made an emergency call because their GSM network

Re: external add-ons?

2007-01-10 Thread Robert Michel
Salve el jefe! On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, el jefe delito wrote: Does anyone know if there will be peripherals to add on to the Neo1973? Of course - I have seen cheap, small Hubs with battery but with normal size USB jack. So you need a small adapter as well. But with another type of adapter it will

Will it possible to use the Neo without battery? Re: Vegas

2007-01-10 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean! On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: I'm going to be in Vegas for another day now. Most of my work here is done this afternoon, so tomorrow I can relax a bit ;-) Then have fun ;-) And BTW I wish you and your team the best for this year: first, personal good wishes like

Power of Linux-vserver.org Re: Proprietary software in OpenMoko (was Re: Real Neo1973 photo / Neo delayed...!?)

2007-01-12 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Attila, *! On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, Attila Csipa wrote: On Friday 12 January 2007 14:37, Sven Neuhaus wrote: I think the users should have the freedom of choice, including the freedom to install commercial software, if desired. I'm not asking for this to be preinstalled on the OpenMoko!

kexec-arm.patch? Re: Question about kernel level hacking

2007-01-15 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Alessandro! On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, Alessandro Iurlano wrote: As I am mainly a low level programmer I will probably try to put my hands on the Neo at kernel level like customizing the linux kernel with patches or even try to program the Neo with my own kernel. :))) I think that the

What consum more power - radio or audio encoding? Re: No WiFi for me

2007-01-15 Thread Robert Michel
Salve [cc]smart! Your mail make me ask what consumes more power - BT dataconnection and Sip client on the mobil - Sip client on an external box and Dect audio connection to the mobil ? [cc]smart schrieb am Montag, den 15. Januar 2007 um 20:26h: WiFi is not made for realtime data, even less

Re: LCD

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Tom! On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The specs for the NEO say it boasts a 2.8 640x480 display. From my calculations this is 285 dpi, which is just awesome... In fact it's so good that I almost don't believe it. What LCD is actually in the phone (MakeModel?). I've

I'd like to see a Neo1973 running without battery, but USB powered :) Re: Kingmax announces microSDHC 4G card

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ole, *! On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Ole Tange wrote: If the microSD is pinwise compatible with SD, would it be possible to: * take out the battery * attach the battery using wires If the Neo1973 could run only with USB power (without battery) than you would be able to skip this point attach

Re: MikroSD under the battery - unmount, sleep modus, small capacitator Re: MicroSD Wifi ?

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Grahame! On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Grahame Falvey wrote: On 16/01/07, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alternative: - small capacitator parallel to the battery - script/function that -- unmount the SD -- let the phone sleep for a while I know it's probably too late, but why

Re: I'd like to see a Neo1973 running without battery, but USB powered :) Re: Kingmax announces microSDHC 4G card

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Joe! Joe Pfeiffer schrieb am Dienstag, den 16. Januar 2007 um 08:16h: Robert Michel writes: If the Neo1973 could run only with USB power (without battery) than you would be able to skip this point attach the battery using wires :) Hmmm, it is possible to charge the battery over

Bluetooth question ;)

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean, *! It is great that the Neo1973 v1 will have Bluetooth :))) Will you publish which version and class it will have? And can somebody explain (me) if beside the bandwith are any hardware limitation for Bluetooth profiles? Where is a good overview about linux Bluetooth and profiles?

This is interesting :)) also legal? Re: Time to copy 1GB via USB 1.1 = 12 minutes? Re: MikroSD under the battery - unmount, sleep modus, small capacitator Re: MicroSD Wifi ?

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ole! On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Ole Tange wrote: On 1/16/07, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - changing SIM / microSD card without reboot Not sure why anyone would need to switch SIM constantly... gooing abroad - using a cheaper tariff I would prefer a mutipexer for 4 sim

speex codec down to 2kbit/s instead of 2kbyte/s Re: Fwd: Why do I want WiFi?

2007-01-18 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Gabriel! Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Donnerstag, den 18. Januar 2007 um 08:55h: VoIP over Bluetooth IP to be practical? Plenty fast for that. I think Speex can run on as little as 2kbyte/s. Ohhhmmm I've tested 1kByte/s bewteen two asterisks this is a quite good quality. Remember that GSM

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

2007-01-18 Thread Robert Michel
Salve hank! On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, hank williams wrote: What I mean by this is that it seems everyone is saying that the big difference is that you can get 3rd party *real apps* on the phone. And this is said as if windows mobile phones like moto q, blackjack and pocket PC phones wont allow

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

2007-01-18 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Rok! On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Rok Ruzic wrote: Non-Networkprovider dominated, user-orientated design: - white/black list for incomming calls/sms - answering machine on your phone - voice menues for anknown or anonymous caller Robert, you are mentioning black/white listing. Do you

7 interesting videos online :)) Re: 23C3 27.-30.12. 2006 Berlin -- Chaos Computer Club conference with interesting program ; )

2007-01-19 Thread Robert Michel
) done #EOF Anybody an idea how to motivate curl and to continous with downloading to avoid multiple downloading when running the skript multiple times? Robert Michel schrieb am Donnerstag, den 30. November 2006 um 19:48h: Today the CCC.de published

Time for a community manifesto? And let us spread this good News :) Re: Free Your Phone

2007-01-20 Thread Robert Michel
Dear OpenMoko fellows! I think we share the same happiness, beeing delirious with joy, about Seans anouncement for the OpenMoko/Neo1973 project today :) And this not, because he announced the planed shipping dates for a new product - whis his surprising philosophic coloured mail he put into

BTW Manifesto - I found My Mobile 2.0 Manifesto from Fabrizio Capobianco (funambol) Re: Time for a community manifesto? And let us spread this good News :) Re: Free Your Phone

2007-01-21 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Robert Michel schrieb am Samstag, den 20. Januar 2007 um 16:47h: Dear OpenMoko fellows! Seans mail sounds like a manifesto, Debian has one,too, so what do you think when we community would having one as well to emphasise our effort to share knowhow, skills and solutions

Openmoko as tool to enable the users beeing active part of the OpenMoko community Re: Time for a community manifesto? And let us spread this good News :) Re: Free Your Phone

2007-01-21 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Tim! On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Tim Newsom wrote: It might be interesting to build some capability into the help system where people can submit tips for applications, or even help information, which gets sent to some openmoko.org repository and packaged up like an rss feed. Yes this is

IMHO more a viewer problem and not a display problem one ; ) - better pdf and webbrower Re: Idea for one of the next Neos: Projecting the display via LEDs

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Uwe! On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Uwe Koch wrote: it's still always the same problem: Mobile phones' displays are to small (size or resolution) to view documents, ebooks, whatever - but they are small to carry with. On the other hand PDAs are to large to carry with but are a better solution

Let us not forget to give every new one a *very* warm welcome - Let us write a welcome message to all new subscriber! HowTo search the Mailinglist archive:http://www.google.de/search?hl=deq=python+si

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Jose and all new or old subscriber of this list! As much as I'm happy that new people join this mailing list, please consider that some hundreds or thousands people are on this list and repeating low level question will generate noise. So again, I'm very happy that many new people find the

Re: Phone for the blind

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Warren! On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Warren Noronha wrote: Is there a text to speech feature planned. I ask this cause a while back a friend of mine who works with the blind, was looking out for phone to for his students (who are blind) Do you know this thread:

Re: Is python built-in

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Mikko! On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Mikko J Rauhala wrote: On ma, 2007-01-22 at 14:10 +0100, Robert Michel wrote: On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Tomasz Zielinski wrote: I seriously doubt it. I found python RPM and it has about 10 MB *compressed*. All default Neo1973 software (including kernel

As I fear - no. Re: io ports besides usb audio?

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Soeren! On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: will the neo have some other i/o ports forwarded to the outside besides the usb port and audio jack? AFAIK unhappyly not. i'd be intersted if there is one to do spi with a microcontroller. if not, would there be one iside the

Some IO hack ideas...Re: As I fear - no. Re: io ports besides usb audio?

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve soeren! [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am Montag, den 22. Januar 2007 um 17:23h: On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 05:00:52PM +0100, Robert Michel wrote: I hope you (and other hardware hackers) are not to much disapointed and do use OpenMoko and Neo1973 for cool and interesting projects and hacks

Yes, let as walk into on room and you'll hanging out with us all, with talking a bit about OpenMoko/Neo1973 :)))) - Re: Sean, do you need a table in Brussel for the FOSDEM 2007? ; ) Re: Neo1973 devi

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean! Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb am Dienstag, den 23. Januar 2007 um 00:41h: On 1/22/07 9:07 PM, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Sean, when you are at the FOSDEM, do you need a table in BXL? Look: http://www.fosdem.org/2007/booths Many Open... there, but OpenMoko is still

Need for a clusterd megaphone via Bluetooth....

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! I need some help - it is realy a pitty that Sean will not speach on a stage at the FOSDEM 2007 I'm probably just going to be walking around and hanging out with you all. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/001891.html But when he'll bring some or many Neo1973 with

Re: Need for a clusterd megaphone via Bluetooth....

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Michael! On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Robert Michel wrote: I need some help - it is realy a pitty that Sean will not speach on a stage at the FOSDEM 2007 Are you sure? :) Oh it was such a good opener to my idea of a clusterd megaphone - Seans talk would

Re: unpowered usb host idea (hack)

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Derek! nice idea :) On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Derek Pressnall wrote: I realize that the reason the usb host port is unpowered is because the phone runs at something like 3.6 volt, and powered usb requires 5 volt, which would add the need for dc-dc converters. So, I've got an idea... and

how to get the video Re: Sean interview

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Alexander! On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Alexander McLeay wrote: On 1/22/07, Tomasz Zielinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRvtAAXTIlg Nothing new, but still worth watch :-) Is it available in a downloadable format for people who can't view Flash movies? (I'm

Neo1973 Car kit - some pittfalls due laws possible?

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Sean announced a Neo1973 Car Kit: We have two more kits that will be available (in addition to the standard kit): A Car Kit and a Hacker's Lunchbox. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/001006.html I haven't a car (and if, I wouled be no question to choose th H-box)

Conference system / poster wall for the FOSDEM Re: Need for a clusterd megaphone via Bluetooth....

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean! On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On 1/23/07 1:38 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Michel wrote: I need some help - it is realy a pitty that Sean will not speach on a stage at the FOSDEM 2007 Are you sure? :) I'm speaking. :))) Very

Re: OpenMoko-ID

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Richard! On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Richard Franks wrote: Will we have something like this? Do we want something like this? It could be useful for contact-sharing, authentication, I would like see a decentralized system that also works offline - when I meet a person I'd like to give him a

Re: Neo1973 Car kit - some pittfalls due laws possible?

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Joe! Joe Pfeiffer schrieb am Dienstag, den 23. Januar 2007 um 09:00h: Robert Michel writes: but I have some doubts about the Car Kit because I heard that most of cars sold the last 10 years have a gerneal aproval (Allgemeine Betriebserlaubnis) that would expires when a radio

No problem - connect it via USB or Bluetooth Re: keyboard, please!

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve quixote! On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, quixote wrote: It could be relatively easy to add a keyboard if it was simply an added hinged component, i.e. you had much the same shape, but it would be twice as thick (and heavy) for those of us desperate to have keyboards, and it would open on the

BTW could be the protocolls propritary and with the need to pay licence fees? Re: BT Vehicle Profiles

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Marcin, *! On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: Dnia wtorek, 23 stycznia 2007 17:41, Duncan Hudson napisa?: 1. Get any Linux powered device into car system range. 2. Run 'hcitool scan' 3. Identify line which match car system. 4. Run 'sdptool browse ADDRESS_OF_CAR_SYSTEM|grep

Re: GPS Outage

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Foucault! On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Foucault de Bonneval wrote: just two points about GPS : - will the Neo have a GPS connexion for an external antenna. Because some car glass don't let signals go through and some people I know had to buy antennas for Tomtom (pare brise athermique in French)

Some thoughts: 1GB flash hack possible? Or why not shipping 1GB directly?

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve, Just some question and possible answer (I'm no expert): what will be the difference beween the 64MB NAND Flash memory of the Neo and 1GB NAND Flash inside a USB memory device I have bought for 12 Euro like: http://www.priz24.de/product_info.php?products_id=1970 ? So in case there will no

sorry s/FPGA/BGA/g Re: Some thoughts: 1GB flash hack possible? Or why not shipping 1GB directly?

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Justyn! Justyn Butler schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 00:47h: Firstly apologies if I've misunderstood what you're saying. :) When it' my failing... But I think it is: can I use the flash chip from inside a USB memory stick to upgrade the neo1973 flash? yes Once I get my

short answer - other feedback is wellcome Re: g quastions

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Eugene! I'm just a student and normal member on this mailinglist, so I don't know more than it was written on this list since November. On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Eugene Kozlov wrote: Hello Can somebody explain What is about hardware licensing? Also open source? (shared pcb schematics,

hack idea: USB flash memory drive modification- +capacitor(s) +small usb jack

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve, the Neo1973 has an unpowered small size USB port. So for beening on the road, it could be nice to be able to use a USB flash drive directly. Our first idea was to hack the Neo1973 and give some power to the port. Another idea would to solder some capacitor into the memory drive, maybe

Re: hack idea: USB flash memory drive modification- +capacitor(s) +small usb jack

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Robert Michel schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:28h: Maybe with a small USB connector to avoid the need for an adapter to use with the Neo1973? Just putting the small USB jack on the other side and the USB memory drive becomes dual use. With small or big jack. Would

Re: Neo1973 Car kit - some pittfalls due laws possible?

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Andreas! Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:48h: Robert Michel writes: Since last Dezember it is forbidden for the driver to touch a PDA/mobil Ok, I think that's a case of wrong translation. It's forbidden to pickup the phone. you are quite allowed

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Jose! Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 08:44h: For exemple, we use it only if we are in a game or if the phone is ringing... If the command were shake to phone to answer, I could accidentally answer the phone while I play with my kids!

Re: hack idea: USB flash memory drive modification- +battery +small usb jack

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! ok, foget my capacitor idea... the capacitor would not have much power after some hours - and charging it every day would be Robert Michel schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:28h: the Neo1973 has an unpowered small size USB port. So for beening on the road, it could

Re: Neo1973 Car kit - some pittfalls due laws possible?

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Andreas! Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 14:49h: * Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070124 14:01]: Salve Andreas! Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:48h: Robert Michel writes: Since last Dezember

Ok, one point is cleard - but what is with the external antenna and the general operation lizence of the car?

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Andreas! Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 14:58h: * Andreas Kostyrka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070124 14:52]: I'm not a lawyer, but if you read the ticker, the OLG just found that a PDA with a GSM module is to be treated as a mobile. Now, the Adac article claims

consider to use a proxy Re: web browser

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: Is Neo going to have more or less featurefill web browser (e.g. with javascript machine, etc)? Featurefill web browser has not so a high priority on my whishlist that having a cheap low traffic and fast webbrowsing. So a Proxy on the Neo

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