Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
Am I completely daft or isn't the focus on FSO and Paroli et all
precisely what you're whining about?
If you have to whine, do so at serious problems like the White Screen of
Death (which is now apparently solved, at least worksforme).
There is a kernel image
Steve Mosher wrote:
Hi Steve,
A list on the wiki of all severe problems and the end user details
would be great, especially for future reference. Some of the problems,
like Buzz, 1024 (recamp) seem to happen to some people and not others.
I never had the buzz problem, go figure.
I've
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:49:03AM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote:
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
Am I completely daft or isn't the focus on FSO and Paroli et all
precisely what you're whining about?
If you have to whine, do so at serious problems like the White Screen of
Death (which is
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| On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:49:03AM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote:
| Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
| Am I completely daft or isn't the focus on FSO and Paroli et all
| precisely what you're whining about?
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I'm kinda confused here... is this buzz issue the one where the
caller (not the neo) hears the GSM buzzing? The one that has a SOP
repair paper with the Big C?... or is it something else?
Citando Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Steve Mosher wrote:
Hi Steve,
A list on the wiki of all severe
Hi All,
I added another column to indicate echo problems - I think it would be
good to get info on both of these issues.
With regard to buzz, do you think it is necessary to differentiate
between no buzz at all, always buzz, and buzz only with headset? My
understanding was that using a headset
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Andreas Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
I added another column to indicate echo problems - I think it would be
good to get info on both of these issues.
With regard to buzz, do you think it is necessary to differentiate
between no buzz at all,
On 10 Dec 2008, at 16:01, arne anka wrote:
... android g1 ... i don't want to support any effort in that way.
+1
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arne anka wrote:
om provides and develops only one distribution!
if there are more than this one it is done by community effort -- people
who bought the freerunner exactly because the _could_ do that.
i for one don't see any sense in helping google to do their homework --
and control
Didier Raboud wrote:
arne anka wrote:
the facts known about google's remote control of the android g1
(privately
owned devoces, mind you!) are absolutely horrible, and i don't want to
support any effort in that way.
+1 from me too.
Don't use Big Evil Google !
I don't want
On 10 Dec 2008, at 19:22, Michel wrote:
...
You just state what I already stated, that there is an unofficial
fix
but not an official one, so I have been reading the archives.
I say in my e-mail Yes there are several soldering hacks around, but
not one is official.
And I know that OM
arne anka wrote:
om provides and develops only one distribution!
if there are more than this one it is done by community effort -- people
who bought the freerunner exactly because the _could_ do that.
i for one don't see any sense in helping google to do their homework --
Stroller wrote:
On 10 Dec 2008, at 19:22, Michel wrote:
...
You just state what I already stated, that there is an unofficial
fix
but not an official one, so I have been reading the archives.
I say in my e-mail Yes there are several soldering hacks around, but
not one is official.
And
The Buzz is introduced into the Neo mic. ( Rf enters the mixer, and you
will see a ripple on the DC coming out to the mic) consequently the far
end of the call may hear a buzz.
There are two potential fixes: The rework Joerg is drafting ( adding a
CAP) smooths the ripple and theoretically
Rui Castro wrote:
Hi,
Like many people in this community I have my Neo resting comfortably
in my desk because there isn't a stable OS with the basic phone
funcionalities available at the moment (I already tried all the
distributions available). Some distributions provide some of the basic
I'm completly agree with Rui.
The fact is that today, after several months, we have a phone that is not
(yet) fully working.
As my experience i tried all the distributions and the better one (in my
very personal opinion) is the SHR
that (unfortunately) doesn't include a phone calls manager, an
people,
i tend to agree with Rui as well. i understand it is difficult to
'kill your darlings' but what is the (business) sense to have '8
distributions for 10.000 phones'? (the only reason i can think of is
some innovative user interface, and not one of the current
distributions has
Andreas Fischer ha scritto:
I totally disagree. First, I do not think that phones age that quick. I
used an age-old Nokia phone (I think it was a 3510 - ca. 2002) until I
got my Freerunner this summer. Unless something unforeseen happens, next
summer the two Neos will _still_ be the only fully
Andreas Fischer wrote:
Hi,
I'm sorry if this sounds a bit harsh, but I am a bit confused by people
constantly complaining: Either you have a completely different phone or
you came here with the wrong expectations. To me at least it was clear
when I got the phone that it wouldn't be
'kill your darlings' but what is the (business) sense to have '8
distributions for 10.000 phones'? (the only reason i can think of is
om provides and develops only one distribution!
if there are more than this one it is done by community effort -- people
who bought the freerunner exactly
Michel wrote:
Maybe we could have a page on the wiki where people
can tell in which country they are, which provider and if they have the
buzz bug or not.
That would be a good idea. Let's start this wiki page and also record
the echo issue in it (which also seems to vary among people). Anyone
Maybe we could have a page on the wiki where people
can tell in which country they are, which provider and if they have the
buzz bug or not.
That would be a good idea. Let's start this wiki page and also record
the echo issue in it (which also seems to vary among people). Anyone
knowing
I agree with Rui, and as a Software Engineer with about a decade of C under
my belt I should be able to help out. It's just getting motivated and
getting started that are the problems here
The nice thing about Android is that it seems like the interface stuff is
basically there, it's sharp
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Am 10.12.2008 17:17, arne anka schrieb:
Maybe we could have a page on the wiki where people
can tell in which country they are, which provider and if they have the
buzz bug or not.
That would be a good idea. Let's start this wiki page and also
arne anka wrote:
Hi,
i wish, you guys would check archives and wiki before posting this stuff.
Maybe you should read my message a bit better before replying. :)
the buzzing issue is _technically_ solved.
the cause has been found a long while ago.
fixes where tested and brought down to a
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Rui Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Like many people in this community I have my Neo resting comfortably
in my desk because there isn't a stable OS with the basic phone
funcionalities available at the moment (I already tried all the
distributions
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Rui Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Like many people in this community I have my Neo resting comfortably
in my desk because there isn't a stable OS with the basic phone
funcionalities available at the moment (I already tried all the
distributions
Hi,
English is not my primary language and that's the reason, I think, for
some people that replied to my message, totally missing the point of
it.
I support the Openmoko initiative as much as everyone in this
community, that's why I bought a Neo Freerunner and that's why I
contributed with a
Rui Castro wrote:
So, my idea with my first message was to try to encourage people from
the community (and from Openmoko too) to put a little effort to make
Android stable in the Freerunner so that Openmoko and the community
could benefict from having another alternative OS, in the SHORT term.
A list on the wiki of all severe problems and the end user details
would be great, especially for future reference. Some of the problems,
like Buzz, 1024 (recamp) seem to happen to some people and not others.
I never had the buzz problem, go figure.
1. problems: WSOD, recamp, Buzz, echo (
Hi Steve,
Please start the page on the wiki with your phone info and I (and hopefully
many others) will add there info there. I would start the page but not too
sure where to start it or if bots clear out orphan pages on the wiki.
Rakshat
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Steve Mosher [EMAIL
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