I vote for 3.5 mm too.
My reasons:
1. There is 4-rings standard(good example is computer headfons with
mic - it would be cool to be able to use it with OM).
2. I use handsfree more often to listen to music than to talk. my
point - it's better to have an adaptor on handsfree and use it when
you
The vote is closed.
We decided to use 3.5mm.
Please see original thread!
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First, my preference. Then some thought-provoking discussion
(I know it's late - I've been finishing off a project of my own!)
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 08:18:16AM +0200, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to
DIY an adapter for any
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an
adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm
headSET standards or adapters?)
I vote for the 3.5. Supporting
I also vote for the 4 conductor 3.5mm jack.
I am not 100% sure the pinout of my Blackberry Curve, but I know that I can
plug in my sony mdr-ex71 headphones and get perfect sound (added to this an
8gig microsd means I dont have to take my largish iriver out and about
unless I want radio or
2008/6/17 Mike Hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I also vote for the 4 conductor 3.5mm jack.
I vote for the same. There is already a standard headphone jack, and
has been for over 30 years. Use it.
Dotan Cohen
http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 21:37 -0700, Mike Montour wrote:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=5262651
says that the iPhone plug uses: tip=R, ring1=L, ring2=Common, sleeve=Mic
(which is not what I would have guessed)
God damn it, Apple. Ground is supposed to be closest to the
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour:
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
your link: that's it
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and giving this link
If you do choose a 4-pin 3.5mm connector to be compatible with iPhone
(or with another major vendor), please double-check that you use the
same
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
WAAH, they're NOT compatible to usual headphones which have tip1=L 2=R,
(3)=4=GND.
I can't guarantee the accuracy of that web page - it would be good to
find someone with an iPhone who can make a direct measurement.
In fact we already did and will follow / stay
On Fri, 30 May 2008 09:23:16 -0700 Mike Montour [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
unsure of that adaptor, BUT my motorola rokr e6 uses a 3.5mm headphone plug
that also has mic support with the 4-pin headphone+mic set that it came with.
this headphone also works on all normal stereo 3.5mm sockets i have
3.5mm. I'd rather be able to take any headphones I have laying around and
use them for music. If I wanted a headset I would buy a Bluetooth headset.
-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:18 PM
A Please.
-remember us voip
-
wifi er's
(yes, that's voip over wifi...)
I'm cheap.
thanks for the good work.
/matthew
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And trim your posts g-damnit
B) 3.5mm
Michal Borek
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old
3.5mm.
E.g. the Nokia N82 has a 3.5mm connector, with a 3.5mm headset included.
/esbjörn
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Richard Reichenbacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3.5mm. I'd rather be able to take any headphones I have laying around and
use them for music. If I wanted a headset I
3.5 mm,
Like to hear on music
Joerg Reisenweber skrev:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's
for GTA01/02)
I still think that wired headsets are not used by anyone out there. Even if
every vendor adds a cheap wired headset to it's device I barely see anyone
using it.
Today bluetooth headsets are cheap and they are way more practical (and even
have the better microphone placing, compared to the wired
2008/5/30 Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's
for GTA01/02)
or
B)
2008/5/30 Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an
adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm
headSET standards or adapters?)
Definitely 3.5mm. If I'd use a headset, I'd use a Bluetooth one
On Fri, 30 May 2008 08:18:16 +0200 Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way
Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's
for GTA01/02)
or
B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an
you may have just changed my mind
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Richard Reichenbacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3.5mm. I'd rather be able to take any headphones I have laying around and
use them for music. If I wanted a headset I would buy a Bluetooth headset.
--
Have no fear
Both!
External adapters are a bad idea since it could put extra force on the jack
socket.
They could be located very close together so you cannot connect both at the
same time.
grtz,
Sander
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm
Hi all!
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Richard Reichenbacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3.5mm. I'd rather be able to take any headphones I have laying around and
use them for music. If I wanted a headset I would buy a Bluetooth headset.
I agree with Richard and vote for B too.
Hermann
3.5mm
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A (but...why not use a bluetooth headset...would be cheaper I think (you don't
need to implement the headphone connector))
Original-Nachricht
Datum: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:18:16 +0200
Von: Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: community@lists.openmoko.org
Betreff: 2.5mm or
Definitively 3.5mm. No need to repeat all the reasons.
Christ van Willegen
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My best choice would be C) (3.5 mic and phones)
but if that is not possible right know, I'll
rather get A). (and multi-touch screen please :P)
Thanks for asking for our opinion.
Kosa
- Un mundo mejor es posible -
Joerg Reisenweber escribi:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future
How about a 4-terminal 3.5mm connector as used on the iphone? It would work
with ordinary headphones if that was all that was needed. If you want the mic
too you get a mic adaptor like the Shure VoicePort, or a full headset.
On Friday 30 May 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
Hi community!
A
hi,
i haven't seen a headset that worked for more then one phone-company yet.
Oh, except for the bluetooth things.But i also needed always
special
headsets for just hearing music.
So please take 3.5mm. so i can just take every normal speaker, headset,
etc. that lies near by me.
and
3.5 mm for me
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Friday 30 May 2008 skrev Joerg Reisenweber:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's
for GTA01/02)
or
B)
Just out of curiousity - why is a 2.5mm headset better suited for voip over
wifi?
/esbjörn
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:09 AM, geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A Please.
-remember us voip
-
wifi er's
(yes, that's voip over wifi...)
I'm
On Fri, 30 May 2008 08:18:16 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to
buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way
like it's
2.5mm. I'd rather be able to take any of my old phones headsets I have laying
around and use them for music and calling. ;)
And it saves place and is less prone to damage.
Piotr
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I vote for B)
I prefer to use Blueetooth to the phone headset, and if you want sound quality
use a wired headphones without any adaptor
--- El vie, 30/5/08, Joerg Reisenweber lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; escribió:
De: Joerg Reisenweber lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Asunto: 2.5mm or 3.5mm
Para:
Hi,
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 08:18 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an
adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm
headSET standards or adapters?)
one vote for B, or even better A and
On Fri, May 30, 2008 4:18 pm, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy
a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's
for GTA01/02)
2.5mm head set.
coz
1. a phone should have a headset adapter for speaker and mic.
2. blue tooth adapters are costly ($40 ) and 2.5mm headsets are $2 in India
( please focus on the relative cost, I am sure its the same elsewhere).
3. its extremely easy to make a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter. but
I'm for 3,5mm as well, they are easier to come by!
Here in Denmark it's illegal to use the wired once in cars any ways
since they are not considered hands-free! So most people would properly
buy a BT one any ways!
And since all good headphones is using a 3,5mm.
- Lasse
On Thu, 29 May 2008
My preference:
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's
for GTA01/02)
But of course it would be nice if the audio out was less sensitive to
impedance issues than people have said the
On Fri, 30 May 2008 10:49:34 +0300 Timo Jyrinki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
2008/5/30 Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an
adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm
headSET standards
I'm for B, as I'd like to use a phone as a music player.
Most people use a bluetooth headset, and anyway there are some 3.5 headsets if
one don't like bt ones.
3.5 connectors are easier to solder, too.
Thank you for asking, you demonstrate you really care about what customers
*actually* want!
On Friday 30 May 2008 08:18:16 Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's
for GTA01/02)
It's 1mm smaller ;)
Still, I'd go for 3.5.
2008/5/30 Rahul Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Exactly. 3.5mm for the same reason.
Are there any tangible benefits to using 2.5mm though?
Rahul J
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Richard Reichenbacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3.5mm. I'd rather be
I still think that wired headsets are not used by anyone out there. Even if
every vendor adds a cheap wired headset to it's device I barely see anyone
using it.
Today bluetooth headsets are cheap and they are way more practical (and even
have the better microphone placing, compared to the
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an
adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm
headSET standards or adapters?)
As mentioned earlier, BT headsets are cheap and more comfortable in use
(e.g. in a
2.5mm.
If you want to buy some earphones for a mobile, than you will get only some
with 2.5mm connectors.
Thomas
Am Freitag 30 Mai 2008 09:35:36 schrieb Rahul Joshi:
Exactly. 3.5mm for the same reason.
Are there any tangible benefits to using 2.5mm though?
Rahul J
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at
Joerg Reisenweber a écrit :
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's
for GTA01/02)
or
B) classic 3.5mm
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like
+1
-Marcel
Am Freitag 30 Mai 2008 10:35:42 schrieb rakshat hooja:
3.5 mm for me
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On Fri, May 30, 2008 7:18 am, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
Prefer B - Classic 3.5 mm connector.
If I want a headset to make calls on, I will buy a BT one. There are loads
to chose from these days from cheap chinese things up to high end High,
but for listening to music I want to be able to plug in
with that.
-GK
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From: Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:22:42 +0200
Subject: Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm
2.5mm, since I want to pick up a phone call while listening to music
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| I still think that wired headsets are not used by anyone out there.
Even if
| every vendor adds a cheap wired headset to it's device I barely see
anyone
| using it.
| Today bluetooth headsets are cheap and
Sven Klomp schrieb:
2.5mm, since I want to pick up a phone call while listening to music.
Sven
And that isn't possible with the actual 3.5mm headset on the GTA01 /
02 ???
no further questions. your witness.
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Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb niclone:
Joerg Reisenweber a écrit :
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy
a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
please hurry to vote, we have to make a decision. Thanks
I vote for B (3.5mm) as well.. even if just headphone.. IMHO, the 2.5
ones are just too fragile...
BTW.. following the link of Phillip to nokia and on to the OMTP left me
with a 404 so the link to the spec
1 more vote for 'B'.
I'm curious, though, why the decision has to be made in such a rush for future
editions of the product?
. . .shawn
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From: Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:18:16 AM
Subject: 2.5mm
3.5, definitely.
And continuing the earlier comment about Nokia - the N95 (and possibly other
models) has a very interesting 3.5mm connector that provides much more than
just sound.
If a 3.5mm headphones are inserted, it plays regular stereo. However it
also accepts the more advanced connector of
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3,5mm, too
Joerg Reisenweber schrieb:
| Hi community!
| A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
| A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to
buy a
| cheap adapter if you want to use your old
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green:
Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| I still think that wired headsets are not used by anyone out there.
Even if
| every vendor adds a cheap wired headset to it's device I barely see
anyone
| using it.
| Today bluetooth headsets are cheap and
JoHo
This is for GTA03 +++ rigth?
Not for Freerunner
Joerg Reisenweber skrev:
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb niclone:
Joerg Reisenweber a écrit :
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to
Whats the difference between normal headphones vs movile headphones?, did you
mean mobile headset(2 earspeakers+mic)?
--- El vie, 30/5/08, Thomas Zimmermann lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; escribió:
De: Thomas Zimmermann lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Asunto: Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm
Para: List for Openmoko
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Benedikt Schindler:
Sven Klomp schrieb:
2.5mm, since I want to pick up a phone call while listening to music.
Sven
And that isn't possible with the actual 3.5mm headset on the GTA01 /
02 ???
It IS possible with the ACTUAL *2.5mm* headset on
2.5mm, definitely - but *not* the 4 contact 2.5mm used on the GTA01.
Wired headsets for phone use give *far* better quality than any bluetooth
headset I've used with the exception of maybe the jawbone. I talk about
4000 minutes/month on my phone so the convenience of being able to buy almost
B) 3.5mm
Il giorno ven, 30/05/2008 alle 10.17 +, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen ha
scritto:
Friday 30 May 2008 skrev Joerg Reisenweber:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; escribi??:
De: Thomas Zimmermann lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Asunto: Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm
Para: List for Openmoko community discussion
lt;community@lists.openmoko.orggt;
Fecha: viernes, 30 mayo, 2008 11:50
2.5mm.
If you want to buy some earphones for a mobile, than you will get only
if i believe wikipedia, then there is also a 5 contact version of the
3.5mm connector.
[wiki:]
Four and five conductor versions of the 3.5 mm plug are used for certain
applications. A four conductor version is becoming a de facto standard
output connector for compact camcorders
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an
adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm
headSET standards or adapters?)
This one, but with a 4-pin (stereo+mic) format that's compatible with at
least 1
I think we should consider this one. I know we
have some issues with video right now, but for
GTA03 most of them could be solved. I would be
very nice to be able to send video using the
same jack we use to send audio. 5G iPods and
some other devices do it.
My 2 centavos.
Kosa
- Un mundo
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like
GTA0x (2)
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Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Shawn:
1 more vote for 'B'.
I'm curious, though, why the decision has to be made in such a rush for
future editions of the product?
. . .shawn
because we're moving forward very fast ;-) You see it took long time for
GTA02, we're trying to speed up, and product
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour:
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY
an
adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm
headSET standards or adapters?)
This one, but with a 4-pin
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 09:16 -0400, Kevin Dean wrote:
3.5 mm. I hear mention of standard 2.5 mm and other than my 1973 and
the Freerunner, I don't think I've ever seen a 2.5 mm used. Most wired
headsets on phones I've purchased in the past each used their own
proprietary connector with the
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 09:13 -0400, Nadav wrote:
[...] Nokia N95 [...] That one has 4 contact points and not 3 like in
regular stereo headphones.
It even supports video playback - there is a cable that comes in the
box and uses the same connector point to output several video types.
ipod
ok so you where talking about headsets not headphones alone thanks :)
--- El vie, 30/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; escribió:
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Asunto: Re: normal headphones vs movile headphones?? Was Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED], List
On Fri, 30 May 2008 13:31:10 -0400
Dylan Semler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Joerg Reisenweber
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
http://www.meritline.com/earphone-adapter-iphone-into-3-5mm-mic-038.html
This one is completely off topic. I'm talking about STEREO headSET(=with mic),
which usually commes with 2.5mm.
We are planning to use a 3.5mm 4-ring connector, that complies with usual
3-ring
A) 2,5mm
Joerg Reisenweber schrieb:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's
for GTA01/02)
or
B) classic
A. you have to have a mic. If it were a walkman then the 3.5 makes sense but
this is a phone+.
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Since there seems to be a difference in operation between them (2.5+mic
and 3.5 without), can both be fitted?
One of the really stupid things about my treo and palm BT headset is I
cant listen to music on it - its designed to handle phone calls only -
hence its NEVER used - hope the freerunner/bt
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Kim Alvefur:
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 09:16 -0400, Kevin Dean wrote:
3.5 mm. I hear mention of standard 2.5 mm and other than my 1973 and
the Freerunner, I don't think I've ever seen a 2.5 mm used. Most wired
headsets on phones I've purchased in the past each used
your link: that's it
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and giving this link
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see URL in prev post. there are adapters 3.5male-2.5female
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that's been my idea when I started. But obviously there's a demand for
adapter-free 3.5 connectivity. So you probably have to use an adapter for
headsets (with mic)[see other post]. No big thing though.
Thanks for voting
jOERG
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On 5/30/08, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi community!
A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a
cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's
for GTA01/02)
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
your link: that's it
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and giving this link
If you do choose a 4-pin 3.5mm connector to be compatible with iPhone
(or with another major vendor), please double-check that you use the
same pin assignments. This forum post:
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