Thanks! But I would say there are lot of news this time ;) thanks to all
contributors.
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On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Christ van Willegen
cvwille...@gmail.com wrote:
Minh,
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Minh Ha Duong hadu...@centre-cired.fr
wrote:
6. Tips and tricks
* Howto get the wrench and QWERTY buttons in 2008.12 with the ASU theme.
I followed the instructions,
Try the links here - this list is from gentoo where its built from
source, plus there are freeware packages (I looked at the unrar link)
for most operating systems.
* app-arch/rar
Latest version available: 3.8.0
Latest version installed: 3.8.0
Size of downloaded files: 1,576 kB
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Fielder George Dowding
fgdowd...@gmail.com wrote:
Apologies to Christ, that is two l's in Willegen.
I hadn't noticed, no offence taken, and my phone now boots with ASU
again. Thanks!
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thanks for the update Minh!
hadn't heard about Gwaterpas
it's been added to opkg now btw
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Minh Ha Duong hadu...@centre-cired.fr wrote:
Hi!
This is the nineth Community Updates, January 12th issue.
For the new year we interviewed Sean on everything that matters
Minh,
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Minh Ha Duong hadu...@centre-cired.fr wrote:
6. Tips and tricks
* Howto get the wrench and QWERTY buttons in 2008.12 with the ASU theme.
I followed the instructions, but misread the second step. It told me
to 'put asu in
Thank you for this update. It is very nice to have a summary to get an
idea about what new there is on OM World.
Thank you
Michele Renda
2008/10/6 Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Contents
* 1 Distributions
* 2 Applications
* 3 Hardware
* 4 Wiki and community
* 5 From the
Minh Ha Duong wrote:
* Another big point release: Qtopia 4.4. It's now called Qt Extended, we
will need to update that string on about ~100 wiki pages!
Qt Extended only refers to versions 4.4.1 and above. Any reference to
Qtopia 4.3.x should remain the same.
:)
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Justyn Butler wrote:
2008/4/29 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anyway I do prefer they're working on shipping the Frerunners to us, than
on writing here...
Michael Shiloh is the community manager - he keeps the community
updated so the devs don't have to take time off from
2008/4/29 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anyway I do prefer they're working on shipping the Frerunners to us, than
on writing here...
Michael Shiloh is the community manager - he keeps the community
updated so the devs don't have to take time off from developing to do
it.
Andreas Hennig wrote:
since the last official community update was a few week ago
Months? :o :|
Anyway I do prefer they're working on shipping the Frerunners to us,
than on writing here...
BTW I'd like to read some twitter-form status-mails from them :)
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On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andreas Hennig wrote:
since the last official community update was a few week ago
Months? :o :|
Anyway I do prefer they're working on shipping the
Do not forget shipping costs and problems with repair etc. If you have to keep
sending devices back and forth to foreign EU countries.
AFAIK, these are much more expensive than in the US.
CU
W
On Monday 25 February 2008 22:48:08 David Pottage wrote:
On Monday 25 February 2008, Michael Shiloh
Marc Verwerft schrieb:
Well, I live in Belgium and I can assure you that sales tax here is 21
% as opposed to Germany's 16 % ...
It is 19% in Germany since 2007 ;(
A lot of people are just crossing the border to Aachen/Koln to find
'cheaper' computer hardware (pc, pda, phone, digital
Tilman Baumann schrieb:
Marc Verwerft wrote:
Well, I live in Belgium and I can assure you that sales tax here is 21
% as opposed to Germany's 16 % ...
16% Not anymore... :(
But as afar as i know, you can sell inside the EU to other EU countries
and tax where they buyer lives.
Don't ask
Hi Duvelle,
We should shortly have a list of worldwide distributors on our website,
along with instructions for how to apply to become one.
Michael
Duvelle Jones wrote:
I am a little curious to the channels that you do have access to. Being
in canada, I am also curious as to if you plan to
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:08:26 + (UTC)
Tony SR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:14:11 +0100, Richard Bennett
richard.bennett at
skynet.be wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:48:08 +0100, David Pottage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3. When the phones reach the distribution centers in Europe and USA, we
will open the web store and begin taking orders.
Does this mean that it will be possible to purchase openmoko from
inside the EU, so there are no random customs taxes? That would be
great!
Ivo Anjo
Ivo Anjo wrote:
3. When the phones reach the distribution centers in Europe and USA, we
will open the web store and begin taking orders.
Does this mean that it will be possible to purchase openmoko from
inside the EU, so there are no random customs taxes? That would be
great!
Hi Ivo,
Hi Ivo,
That is certainly our intention, which is why we have been trying to set
up distributors in as many places as possible.
The only one I know of so far is in Germany. Since that's in the EU,
that should work for you, right?
Yeah, there are no extra taxes on trades inside the EU,
On Monday 25 February 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote:
Ivo Anjo wrote:
3. When the phones reach the distribution centers in Europe and USA, we
will open the web store and begin taking orders.
Does this mean that it will be possible to purchase openmoko from
inside the EU, so there are no
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:48:08 +0100, David Pottage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If FIC setup a web shop in a European country with a low sales tax rate
such
as Belgum, Europeans buying Freerunner phones could save around 10%
compared
with buying from a German web shop.
Don't you mean
On Mo, 2008-02-25 at 23:06 +0100, Marc Verwerft wrote:
Well, I live in Belgium and I can assure you that sales tax here is 21
% as opposed to Germany's 16 % ...
Just to kill your illusion - it is 19 % in germany since the beginning
of 2007... ;-)
Regards,
Ricky.
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Well, I live in Belgium and I can assure you that sales tax here is 21
% as opposed to Germany's 16 % ...
16% Not anymore... :(
But as afar as i know, you can sell inside the EU to other EU countries
and tax where they buyer lives.
Don't ask me how, but i think there is
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:14:11 +0100, Richard Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:48:08 +0100, David Pottage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If FIC setup a web shop in a European country with a low sales tax rate
such
as Belgum, Europeans buying Freerunner phones could save
Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:14:11 +0100, Richard Bennett richard.bennett at
skynet.be wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:48:08 +0100, David Pottage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If FIC setup a web shop in a European country with a low sales tax rate
such
David Pottage ha scritto:
If FIC setup a web shop in a European country with a low sales tax rate such
as Belgum, Europeans buying Freerunner phones could save around 10% compared
with buying from a German web shop.
In Italy it's 20%, not the best, but reading I discover that it isn't
I am a little curious to the channels that you do have access to. Being
in canada, I am also curious as to if you plan to distribute the
FreeRunner in Canada.
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 10:56 -0800, Michael Shiloh wrote:
Hello,
A number of times you have asked about pre-orders. Here is the official
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Duvelle Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I am a little curious to the channels that you do have access to. Being
in canada, I am also curious as to if you plan to distribute the
FreeRunner in Canada.
+1 for Canada!
We can order from the USA and the shipping
On Monday 25 February 2008 23:48:14 Tilman Baumann wrote:
Well, I live in Belgium and I can assure you that sales tax here is 21
% as opposed to Germany's 16 % ...
16% Not anymore... :(
But as afar as i know, you can sell inside the EU to other EU countries
and tax where they buyer lives.
On Jan 11, 2008 12:21 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Lon,
Will from our office pointed me at these, but that was yesterday and
apparently even more have appeared:
http://gizmodo.com/341755/openmoko-neo-freerunner-linux-smartphone-hands+on
Hello,
On Jan 12, 2008 7:42 AM, Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
agreed... plus how often does a consumer ready phone get rebooted? last
time I did mine was to swap the sim card into my neo
In my experience it is like this: Nokia phones needs to be rebooted every
week. This has been
On Saturday 12 January 2008 07:26:18 Ted Lemon wrote:
On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Lon Lentz wrote:
I read the not so happy comments following the Gizmodo article.
A lot of those comments have been made here on this list. Like the
repeated ones about the boot scroll being visible.
I
On Friday 11 January 2008 23:20:51 Lon Lentz wrote:
I would recommend everyone go read Wired's article on the story of the
iPhone development. Read about how well their prototype did. Hint: The
iPhone didn't magically appear as a finished project out of thin air by
shear will power. The
On Jan 12, 2008 3:12 PM, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
imo its a much better feature then looking at a boot graphic that never
stops
looping and wonder why it does not...
For sure, but it seem importqnt to be able to hide the boot scroll for mass
market.
Not all people are open
Ted Lemon wrote:
On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Lon Lentz wrote:
I read the not so happy comments following the Gizmodo article.
A lot of those comments have been made here on this list. Like the
repeated ones about the boot scroll being visible.
I thought that was weird. The boot
Hello,
On Jan 12, 2008 5:34 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, we left that in on purpose -- especially for the geeks. Of course,
it's
scheduled for removal in a consumer-only release (whenever that may
come) release. Well I guess you just can't please everyone :/
On Jan 12, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
And we want the matrix screensaver too. :-)
And it can't run down the batteries...
:')
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On Jan 12, 2008, at 9:34 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Well I guess you just can't please everyone :/
Sure you can - put a switch in the phone's advanced preferences! :')
Anyway, I have always felt that with a little dress-up, the verbose
startup could become reassuring rather than
Am 10.01.2008 um 22:20 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
We're still testing the hardware and gathering up little issues
before determining whether we need to create another version of the
board. We still expect to start shipping Neo FreeRunner sometime in
the next few months. As always, we can't be
Joseph Reeves wrote:
Hi Michael,
Hi Joseph,
Going back to your previous email first:
Fortunately we have a watchful community to catch our mistakes as
quickly as possible! Please continue to let me know if we make such
mistakes in the future.
Please understand that I wasn't trying to
Hi Jay,
Thanks for your enthusiasm.
Jay Vaughan wrote:
We're still testing the hardware and gathering up little issues before
determining whether we need to create another version of the board. We
still expect to start shipping Neo FreeRunner sometime in the next few
months. As always,
Michael
I'm pretty sure that the only new things we mentioned were new
hardware features: WiFi, faster processor, 2D/3D accelerator chip, and
the accelerometers.
ah yes, 3d! It'll be nice to have 3d renderings using something like
google earth ;)
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On Friday 11 January 2008 21:21:41 Michael Shiloh wrote:
Hi Lon,
Will from our office pointed me at these, but that was yesterday and
apparently even more have appeared:
http://gizmodo.com/341755/openmoko-neo-freerunner-linux-smartphone-hands+on
On 1/11/08, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Lon,
Will from our office pointed me at these, but that was yesterday and
apparently even more have appeared:
http://gizmodo.com/341755/openmoko-neo-freerunner-linux-smartphone-hands+on
On Jan 11, 2008 2:17 PM, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The comments are.. not so happy. :/
Yeah it didn't make a good impression to show the boot messages, and a
buggy crashing version of the UI. It really doesn't make sense, in
that the rest of us are getting better results with the
Unfortunately, opengl drivers for the SMedia chip will unlikely be
ready by the release of FreeRunner. Only XRender extension is
implemented by now. Also, GoogleEarth is closed-source and therefore
can not be recompiled for ARM.
P.S. Does anyone know whether we'll see accelerated XVideo extension
Hi Lon,
Will from our office pointed me at these, but that was yesterday and
apparently even more have appeared:
http://gizmodo.com/341755/openmoko-neo-freerunner-linux-smartphone-hands+on
http://takezero.net/3g-and-mobile-news/hands-on-with-fics-openmoko-powered-freerunner-2
Hi Brad,
I'm pretty sure that the only new things we mentioned were new
hardware features: WiFi, faster processor, 2D/3D accelerator chip, and
the accelerometers.
Fixed GSM firmware is not new because that's already included in GTA01
units (those that shipped after we got the fixed
Thanks, Michael. That was what I was looking for. Geek tech sites covering
you guys at the show.
I read the not so happy comments following the Gizmodo article. A lot of
those comments have been made here on this list. Like the repeated ones
about the boot scroll being visible.
I would
On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Lon Lentz wrote:
I read the not so happy comments following the Gizmodo article.
A lot of those comments have been made here on this list. Like the
repeated ones about the boot scroll being visible.
I thought that was weird. The boot scroll is one of my
On Jan 11, 2008 11:26 PM, Ted Lemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Lon Lentz wrote:
I read the not so happy comments following the Gizmodo article.
A lot of those comments have been made here on this list. Like the
repeated ones about the boot scroll being visible.
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Michael Shiloh wrote:
Neo FreeRunner press release and the CPU speed
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The Neo FreeRunner press release that went out last week indicated a
500MHz CPU which, as many of you pointed out, is in conflict
year and calendar year, I suppose?
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At my employer, 1st quarter
Hi Ian,
ian douglas wrote:
Although it would be nice to take advantage of this faster processor, 3
problems make this impractical
Michael,
If I'm reading your message correctly, the GTA02 will indeed have a
500MHz processor, but will not be running at 500MHz because of the three
Michael,
Are you aware of any online sites that might have done any video of this?
On Jan 10, 2008 4:20 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
A brief status report from OpenMoko:
Consumer Electronics Show, Las Vegas
We've just
Hello everyone,
I'm going to ask possibly a simple question, but one that's quite
important to me and the company I work for.
FreeRunner is due for release at the end of Spring, but which Spring
is this? East Asia? US? Europe?
I'm in the UK and greatly looking forward to the FreeRunner, but
Hello Joseph,
The spring we're talking about is spring in North America, but please
note that this is an estimate, not a guarantee, and please note that the
software will not be consumer ready.
Michael
Joseph Reeves wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm going to ask possibly a simple question, but
On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 09:35 -0500, Adam King wrote:
Hi Michael:
As I mentioned in a previous email to you, I'm in a 850Mhz _only_ area - so
I can test the handset for you - though I am in Canada. Provider is Rogers
and
the area is Ottawa. Also, would there be any possibility of
FreeRunner is due for release at the end of Spring, but which Spring
is this? East Asia? US? Europe?
I have to say, spring is a bad description of when FreeRunner will be
released, though from my knowledge East Asia, the US and Europe all have spring
at the same time +- 24 hours. I'm
Jeff Bailes wrote:
FreeRunner is due for release at the end of Spring, but which Spring
is this? East Asia? US? Europe?
I have to say, spring is a bad description of when FreeRunner will be
released, though from my knowledge East Asia, the US and Europe all have
spring
at the same
Thank you for the update. When do you expect to have results from the
850-MHz GTA01 testing?
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On Thursday 03 January 2008 05:51:06 Michael Shiloh wrote:
Hello everyone,
Next week at CES we will formally preview GTA02 to the public. We are
doing this at an invitation-only media event, and not the general show
floor.
Any chance to see a video of that event? Maybe even in decent (i.e.
The bulk of the press release discusses the hardware features of GTA02,
of which you are all well aware.
Actually I do have one question coming from the press release -- it says:
FreeRunner will come in two versions: a 850MHz tri-band and a
900Mhz tri-band.
Does this mean that OpenMoko has
Thanks for the updates, Michael.
Any update on how the GTA02v5 evaluation is proceeding?
/Erland
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:42:53 -0700, Richard Reichenbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
As long as there's the Equifax security certificate it'll support our
network. It would also be a huge move for cell phone wifi as it would be
the only phone that works with our network.
Richard
And
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
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Richard
Erland Lewin wrote:
Thanks for the updates, Michael.
Any update on how the GTA02v5 evaluation is proceeding?
/Erland
Hi Erland,
As mentioned on 12/06/2007 We are waiting for confirmation of Wifi and
a few other parts of the GTA02a4 hardware before we manufacture even a
small test run
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Hello,
GTA01 850MHz Experiment
---
As mentioned in the last update, we modified a couple of GTA01
handsets for 850MHz operation to test them in the USA. Due to the
enthusiastic response I received to my request for testing volunteers
I've asked our
GSM Firmware Update
---
We are still waiting for the signed agreement allowing you to update the
GSM firmware yourselves. Meanwhile, we have resolved the difficulties I
was having in performing the upgrade, and I am now able to upgrade your
handsets. Anyone interested in having
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Hello,
GTA01 850MHz Experiment
---
As mentioned in the last update, we modified a couple of GTA01
handsets for 850MHz operation to test them in the USA. Due to the
enthusiastic response I received to my request for
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Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
Michael Shiloh
Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
Dnia poniedziałek, 10 grudnia 2007, Richard Reichenbacher napisał:
I am a student at the University of Arizona and work for the IT
department. We have one of the worlds largest Cisco Radius wifi setups
in the world. Our main wifi network uses wpa enterprise with
On Monday 10 December 2007, Nick Guenther wrote:
On 12/9/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
GSM Firmware update:
We've been informed that everything legal has been agreed upon by all
parties, and all that remains is to get everything signed. Apparently
the process of
In regards to the 850MHz Issue:
It seems that very little effort was required to switch a phone board
to 850 for testing. So my question is what exactly is involved. Was
it simply switching which pin is attached to the antenna? If it is a
relatively simple circuit change and involving only a
Hi Michael:
As I mentioned in a previous email to you, I'm in a 850Mhz _only_ area - so
I can test the handset for you - though I am in Canada. Provider is Rogers and
the area is Ottawa. Also, would there be any possibility of releasing
the changes
made to the GTA01 to make it 850Mhz
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progress
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007
I would also be very interested in re-work instructions for modifying
a GTA01 to support 850MHz as many of us are capable doing circuit
modifications.
Thanks,
Cliff
On Dec 10, 2007 9:32 AM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In regards to the 850MHz Issue:
It seems that very little effort was
workaround and almost nullify my no-quadband
issues.
-Jonathon
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As mentioned earlier, this requires replacing a number of components,
firmware changes, and recalibration.
Michael
Mark wrote:
In regards to the 850MHz Issue:
It seems that very little effort was required to switch a phone board
to 850 for testing. So my question is what exactly is involved.
Yes, but not the recalibration or the firmware changes.
One step at a time - let's see if these units work, and if so, we'll
look into if there is any way to tackle the other issues.
Michael
Cliff Brake wrote:
I would also be very interested in re-work instructions for modifying
a GTA01 to
Jason Joines wrote:
Is there any possibility of a future hardware version becoming quad
band?
As mentioned earlier, there is no chance that GTA02 will be quad-band.
There is certainly a possibility that future products will be quad-band.
Michael
I'm curious, since these 850 variants are most likely going to be an option,
when can we expect them? Are they going to be available at the same time as
the public offering of the GTA02, or are they going to be available way
after that?
On Dec 9, 2007 6:01 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Tim,
OpenMoko does not predict when things will be ready; rather, we try to
communicate as much as possible on what we are doing and what we hope to do.
By the way, you say ... most likely going to be an option I'd
like to point out that we are still evaluating the possibility of
Wifi driver:
We're making very good progress, but it's still not finished.
GTA02 hardware:
Still waiting for the Wifi driver to verify the Wifi hardware, but so
far we're feeling quite good about this part. There are a couple of
other things to verify, and as mentioned before we will most
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
Wifi driver:
We're making very good progress, but it's still not finished.
GTA02 hardware:
Still waiting for the Wifi driver to verify the Wifi hardware, but so
far we're feeling quite good about this part. There are a couple of
other things to verify, and as
On 12/9/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
GSM Firmware update:
We've been informed that everything legal has been agreed upon by all
parties, and all that remains is to get everything signed. Apparently
the process of getting things signed takes a few weeks!
850MHz
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Hi,
GSM Firmware update:
We've been informed that everything legal has been agreed upon by all
parties, and all that remains is to get everything signed. Apparently
the process of getting things signed takes a few weeks!
850MHz experiment:
As mentioned before we're
Hi,
I live in Southern Minnesota, in the area indicated by the blue spot on this
map: http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/cing-attws_800_850.html It would
seem that I would be a candidate for testing the 850mhz reception. Let me
know if I can help.
-Will
On Dec 9, 2007 8:46 PM, Richard
Dnia poniedziałek, 10 grudnia 2007, Richard Reichenbacher napisał:
I am a student at the University of Arizona and work for the IT
department. We have one of the worlds largest Cisco Radius wifi setups
in the world. Our main wifi network uses wpa enterprise with peap
authentication and the
Standard Precision Service (SPS) for GPS is open to the general public
and all information related to it should be unclassified, although some
is For Official Use Only (FOUO). Pres Bill Clinton made a Presidential
Decree, when he was in office, that gave undiluted precision of SPS to
the
Curiosity prevails:
I do see a few benefits to a device which is just a GPS radio, like what Ian
has stated. Would their be any legal ramifications to a reverse-engineered
open source binary interpreter for the GPS radio? I saw a few people
mention government concerns with having access to a
Ian Darwin wrote:
Anything less will lead to this sort of frustration, over and over again.
It is not always possible.
The way I figured it out, the GSM module will always be closed. This is
not due to the hardware specs being unknown, but due to the fact that
the law requires a transmitter to
exactly accurate respose/analysis.
Hank
On Nov 14, 2007 4:18 AM, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ian Darwin wrote:
Anything less will lead to this sort of frustration, over and over
again.
It is not always possible.
The way I figured it out, the GSM module will always be
Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Regarding the GPS, please pay attention to the fact that the GTA-02 did
not solve this problem. It merely moved the non open source component
from the software to the firmware. This solves the supporting
libraries problem, but does not allow openness.
It solved the
Shachar Shemesh
The way I figured it out, the GSM module will always be closed. This is
not due to the hardware specs being unknown, but due to the fact that
the law requires a transmitter to be approved by the FCC, and it is
impossible to get an approval for a transmitter that allows anyone
Mike Montour wrote:
A serial-attached GPS module with closed-source firmware is no worse
than the hard drive with closed-source firmware in everyone's desktop PC.
Just for the record - I agree. It is unrealistic to expect EVERYTHING to
be open source at this stage. I'm just stating that the move
In other words, pretty much nothing (except for your *very* generous
offer to update phones in person, for which thanks!!).
This is not an occasion for us all to vent frustration at Sean, Mike, et
al. However it is a very good occasion to restate something: everyone,
at all times, involved
I realize the 850mhz issue is complex and you can't give an answer
right away, but I'd like to know when we could expect one? I'm one of
the many North American's who needs the 850 band, and If I know it's
coming I'm going to start doing some software dev, if it's not I'll
start looking elsewhere.
On Tuesday 06 November 2007 03:36, Jon wrote:
I'd suggest everyone find their country on GSM World:
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/index.shtml and check their
providers. Unfortunately some of the maps don't differentiate between 850
and 1900 (for example Rogers Wireless in Canada).
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