Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-19 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/9/6 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner#CurrentStatusofInstallation For those of you (like me) who don't read help texts, I added the pretty useful information about needing to install perl on the host system before running the install script :)

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-16 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 13.09.2009, 21:42 -0400 schrieb Stefan Monnier: Or more precisely, for $DISPLAY on fso-controlled device at runtime, not installation time. I think that mess will be larger than that of having two icons, menu items or whatever the launcher makes of it, for the user to

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-14 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:52:53PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: That will result in two icons in launchers. why nor let the user decide on installation or check in postinst for arm and copy the matching one? Not for arm but for fso-controlled device. Or more

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-14 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:24:04AM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:52:53PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: That will result in two icons in launchers. why nor let the user decide on installation or check in postinst for arm and copy the

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
AFAIK, there is such a protocol already (which is hopefully used by all tools like VLC, Xine, mplayer, totem, at least when in fullscreen mode). So mokomaze should use it. And the FSO side should also support it. x screensaver extension. you can request x to suspend blanking until u

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-14 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Not for arm but for fso-controlled device. Or more precisely, for $DISPLAY on fso-controlled device at runtime, not installation time. Cant think out a use case when same device will run a window manager (or whatever component that uses .desktop files) sometimes with fso

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-14 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 14 September 2009, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: Not for arm but for fso-controlled device. Or more precisely, for $DISPLAY on fso-controlled device at runtime, not installation time. Cant think out a use case when same device will run a window manager (or

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-14 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Monday 14 September 2009 04:07:43 Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:42:49 -0400 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca said: Or more precisely, for $DISPLAY on fso-controlled device at runtime, not installation time. I think that mess will be larger than that of

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:38:49 -0400 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca said: AFAIK, there is such a protocol already (which is hopefully used by all tools like VLC, Xine, mplayer, totem, at least when in fullscreen mode). So mokomaze should use it. And the FSO side should also

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:11:54 +0200 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de said: On Monday 14 September 2009 04:07:43 Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:42:49 -0400 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca said: Or more precisely, for $DISPLAY on fso-controlled

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-13 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 11:23:58PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: For example, it's nice that mokomaze is in debian, but if you install it and run it, you will get your screen blanked after a minute. To avoid that, one needs to start mokomaze under fsoraw wrapper. Making this happen

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-13 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 11:23:58PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: For example, it's nice that mokomaze is in debian, but if you install it and run it, you will get your screen blanked after a minute. To avoid that, one needs to start mokomaze under fsoraw wrapper. Making this happen

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-13 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 08:09:33PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 11:23:58PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: For example, it's nice that mokomaze is in debian, but if you install it and run it, you will get your screen blanked after a minute. To avoid

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-13 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
For example, it's nice that mokomaze is in debian, but if you install it and run it, you will get your screen blanked after a minute. To avoid that, one needs to start mokomaze under fsoraw wrapper. Making this happen automatically while staying within debian policy could be a

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-13 Thread arne anka
That will result in two icons in launchers. why nor let the user decide on installation or check in postinst for arm and copy the matching one? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-13 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
That will result in two icons in launchers. why nor let the user decide on installation or check in postinst for arm and copy the matching one? Not for arm but for fso-controlled device. And depending on a result of such a check, different .desktop files should be installed under

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-13 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:52:53PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: That will result in two icons in launchers. why nor let the user decide on installation or check in postinst for arm and copy the matching one? Not for arm but for fso-controlled device. Or more precisely, for

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
Or more precisely, for $DISPLAY on fso-controlled device at runtime, not installation time. I think that mess will be larger than that of having two icons, menu items or whatever the launcher makes of it, for the user to choose between. The solution is to use a scheme where the blanking

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-13 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:42:49 -0400 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca said: Or more precisely, for $DISPLAY on fso-controlled device at runtime, not installation time. I think that mess will be larger than that of having two icons, menu items or whatever the launcher makes of it,

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-07 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/9/6 Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.org: Doing debian install with (c)debootstrap, as current install.sh does and as debian installer does, although being a standard way, is somewhat questionable on slow devices such as freerunner. This is plainly slow, compared to reflashing or

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-06 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/8/29 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: Unfortunately it was found out installing Debian via the install.sh script is broken until dpkg 1.15.4 lands in unstable. 1.15.4 ARM build has now landed in the Debian archive (at least ftp.debian.org, mirrors soon follow, check

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-09-06 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
I'm quite glad with the new E17 and Zhone packages in the main Debian archive. The only package you really need from the (still enabled by default) pkg-fso archive is the kernel, so this is very good progress. The kernel is of course a hard thing and involves work from all Openmoko kernel

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-31 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/8/29 Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.org: GPRS worked fine. Could you please post an explanation on how to test/use gprs on debian? Maybe see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO#Using_scripts ? I added now a link to that page also from DebianOnFreeRunner. I'm myself actually using

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-29 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/8/28 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Tried to install debian today: ... E: Internal error: install Unfortunately it was found out installing Debian via the install.sh script is broken until dpkg 1.15.4 lands in unstable. So, keep eye on

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-29 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
GPRS worked fine. Could you please post an explanation on how to test/use gprs on debian? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-28 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/8/27 Lee Grime lee.gr...@gmail.com: Re-camping.  I can only tell it is doing this because I left it near my PC and the speakers were picking it up!  Happens about every 5-10mins. I did not have this problem with SHR, it is stable for GSM.  SMS has a few quirks, but nothing major.  I know

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-28 Thread David Garabana Barro
O Xoves, 27 de Agosto de 2009, Lee Grime escribiu: Re-camping. I can only tell it is doing this because I left it near my PC and the speakers were picking it up! Happens about every 5-10mins. I did not have this problem with SHR, it is stable for GSM. SMS has a few quirks, but nothing

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Tried to install debian today: INST_MIRROR=http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian HOST=ribian TASKS=ALL SINGLE_PART=true QI=true ./install.sh all problem #1: fdisk fails. (copied from irc..) 10:08 rhkfin Syncing disks. 10:08 rhkfin Partitioning failed, could not execute with fdisk: 10:08 rhkfin n

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-28 Thread Radek Polak
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Tried to install debian today: ... E: Internal error: install I really dont like these long install scripts. When it works it's good but if not, it's really hard to find where is problem. I think Debian should be offered as ready-for-flash image. I am creating debian

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Radek Polakpson...@seznam.cz wrote: I really dont like these long install scripts. When it works it's good but if not, it's really hard to find where is problem. But isn't that the thing with everything? I think Debian should be offered as ready-for-flash

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-27 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Nice, well done! I like that the moko page of Debian is a graphical showcase (add your OpenOffice screenshot there!) and the install instructions are separated (to debian wiki). I don't really remember calling for wiki cleaning, maybe mentioned the messy wiki somewhere but yes, the wiki needs a

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-27 Thread Edder
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Timo Jyrinkitimo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, With the gust of fresh air everywhere, I took the liberty of joining the mess that was combined http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian + http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner , so that in the end the Openmoko

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-27 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/8/27 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: showcase (add your OpenOffice screenshot there!) Done :) 2009/8/27 Edder ed...@tkwsping.nl: I had been looking at installing debian a couple of days ago and it seems that this is a definite improvement! The only suggestion I have is to add some more

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-27 Thread Lee Grime
I installed debian a couple of days ago. 1st try with a new 8GB sandisk uSDHC card, which failed with IO errors. I assume this is because of the SD card speed. Tried with a sandisk 4GB uSDHC, using install.sh, with VFAT boot partition. Install worked fine. Some problems encountered :-