Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
Steve 'dillo Okay wrote: Are you generally happy with your device ? Yes, I am.. for what I do with it, it's been working well (phone, sms, gps) in germany as well as UK.. of course, a few quirks are still around... but I'm happy to work around them.. (like rebooting once I had WLAN on - can't seem to power it down again so it drains battery.. or that I need to split sms manually when sending) I use the SHR-testing image which I patch manually echo-free.. (some clever guy posted that once on the list (where to put the 187 command in)) I would say what-where, but got the instructions at home.. :S I understand that the SHR-unstable is already echo-free - but has other more severe problems instead? I stick with testing. :D How many of you out there with FRs are using them actively as an everyday phone device, in addition to something to hack on ? I use it as my everyday phone just fine. Haven't really got around programming for it, though.. :( Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ A user friendly computer first requires a friendly user. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
2009/1/26 Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 4:04:27 am Alexander Frøyseth wrote: I use QtE 4.4.2 and have no echo with this fix: http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442- on-openmoko-neohttp://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-on-openmoko-neo Thanks for confirming it works for you too! No problem with the sound either (I use only this fix, not the fix that replaces the .state files) I actually had to edit them, but only because it was too loud for my ears, not because of any echo! :-) -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I had to edit them to, but it works perfectly Thanks :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
Hi All, Now that the echo is seemingly gone it's time to get rid of the GSM buzz noise. Is their an official hardware fix and has anyone in London/the UK applied this succesfully? Regards ezuall -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Is-there-an-echo-free-distro--tp2162879p2218703.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
Thanks for pointing me at SHR unstable. I tried SHR in December, but this time my first 2 calls have been echo free, so that is good. I will, thankfully, be using my Freerunner as my daily phone this week. Cheers ezuall -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Is-there-an-echo-free-distro--tp2162879p2213292.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
Yogiz wrote: Hi, I'm currently using a quite customized but up to date version of Om2008.9 testing (equal to Om2008.12?). It otherwise wonderful but I still can't use the Freerunner as a normal cellphone with it yet as I still get echo on the other side both for calls coming in and for the ones going out. My other phone is basically falling apart so I'll need to move to Freerunner for phone calls as well so I'd like to ask, which distros are currently the best for it. As I've understood the FSO does not have the echo problem [citation needed] so I thought I'd move to that. Are there any better options? I'd prefer a distro where I can use opkg but If none of these have decent call quality then I'll settle for something else. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I use QtE 4.4.2 and have no echo with this fix: http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-on-openmoko-neo No problem with the sound either (I use only this fix, not the fix that replaces the .state files) It works on 4.4.1 too Happy hacking Alexander Frøyseth AlecTBM ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
From: Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com Date: January 24, 2009 2:21:45 PM PST To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Is there an echo-free distro? Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org 2009/1/23 ezuall ezu...@gmail.com: Thanks for that, I will give that new SHR distro a try this weekend. I am trying SHR-unstable now. I called my wife today, and she said something like ah, at last, a normal sound. She confirmed that the echo was much reduced; there was still something there, but very quiet and not significantly distracting. A bit of a newb question that I've been meaning to ask and this seems to be the right context to ask it in. Are you generally happy with your device ? My Treo just went four-paws and I'm not happy with the models I've seen on offer that I might replace it with. I'm not at all averse to software with rough edges, compiling/ building my own kernels, texting from the CLI, etc. I do need the FR to act like a fairly reliable phone though, both here in the US and in Europe. I travel a lot for work and projects, so a GSM phone I can just swap SIMs on along with being a hackable Linux platform has some appeal. How many of you out there with FRs are using them actively as an everyday phone device, in addition to something to hack on ? It would be good to hear feedback from users/developers in Germany and Italy (where I'll be next month) in addition to inside the US(I live in CA). Thanks, -Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 4:04:27 am Alexander Frøyseth wrote: I use QtE 4.4.2 and have no echo with this fix: http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442- on-openmoko-neo Thanks for confirming it works for you too! No problem with the sound either (I use only this fix, not the fix that replaces the .state files) I actually had to edit them, but only because it was too loud for my ears, not because of any echo! :-) -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
2009/1/23 ezuall ezu...@gmail.com: Thanks for that, I will give that new SHR distro a try this weekend. I am trying SHR-unstable now. I called my wife today, and she said something like ah, at last, a normal sound. She confirmed that the echo was much reduced; there was still something there, but very quiet and not significantly distracting. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
Hi all, I've tried most of the distributions and patches that are echo free and nothing has worked sofar except when I configure the volume so low that you can hardly hear a thing. One thing that makes troubleshooting this issue so tricky is the fact that the echo is experienced by the person on the other side of the phone and there is no way to verify whether there is an echo from the Freerunner itself. Would it be possible and what would be the steps involved in creating an application to check whether the echo problem is present? Since the echo is caused by the audio path inside the Neo there has to be some way to verify and display the magnitude of the echo locally. Regards Johan -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Is-there-an-echo-free-distro--tp2162879p2202157.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
I've tried most of the distributions and patches that are echo free and nothing has worked sofar except when I configure the volume so low that you can hardly hear a thing. i haven't read the whole thread so excuse me if anyone has mentioned this already... i have always suffered the same issue and nothing worked out of box for me. on Jan19th was created new image of shr-unstable, download from here [1]. i have tested it several times and it is echo free for me (respectively for the other side of my phone conversation :) let us know your results -- Petr Vaněk [1] http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
Thanks for that, I will give that new SHR distro a try this weekend. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Is-there-an-echo-free-distro--tp2162879p2202278.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
2009/1/15 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: 2009/1/15 Gabriel cont...@huau-gabriel.fr: Hackable1 is echo free no ? (personnaly i have no echo) I also have no echo with H1. Correction: apparently I do still have a bad echo. No one had mentioned it for a while, so I thought it was fixed... Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
When I was using FDOM 20080927 I changed control.4 (Speaker Playback Volume) in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state to 117 and I had no echo problem. Now I'm using 2008.12. I tried the same there, but it didn't help. Then I copied the gsmhandset.state from my old FDOM backup, but the echo was still there. Then I played with alsamixer during a call and I discovered, that if I change the control.5 (Mono Playback Volume) to 85, then the echo is gone! On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.comwrote: 2009/1/16 Tha_Man jeroenb...@hotmail.com: Neil Jerram wrote: 2009/1/15 Gabriel cont...@huau-gabriel.fr: Hackable1 is echo free no ? (personnaly i have no echo) I also have no echo with H1. Neil What version of H1 are you using? Rev 2 Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
2009/1/16 Tha_Man jeroenb...@hotmail.com: Neil Jerram wrote: 2009/1/15 Gabriel cont...@huau-gabriel.fr: Hackable1 is echo free no ? (personnaly i have no echo) I also have no echo with H1. Neil What version of H1 are you using? Rev 2 Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 3:26:23 am ka...@altern.org wrote: Since there is a known workaround, why doesn't it get applied? I suspect the Nokia/Trolltech folks are busy with the Qt LGPL stuff. Lorn did say he'd try to get a snapshot release out around the solstice but it didn't appear, so it'd be nice if those minor changes could get incorporated into it when it finally does appear. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 3:17:11 am Gabriel wrote: Hackable1 is echo free no ? Yup, that was what inspired me to do the QtE patch as that showed just how good the audio quality could be! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
Neil Jerram wrote: 2009/1/15 Gabriel cont...@huau-gabriel.fr: Hackable1 is echo free no ? (personnaly i have no echo) I also have no echo with H1. Neil What version of H1 are you using? The sound of my mic is bad with H1 rev2 and I can't seem to dial numbers starting with '+', but I'm not sure if the echo is gone. In 2008.12 the echo isn't gone for me too, but more annoying is the fact SMS messages are only received after a reboot. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Is-there-an-echo-free-distro--tp2162879p2168768.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
Yogiz schrieb: Hi, I'm currently using a quite customized but up to date version of Om2008.9 testing (equal to Om2008.12?). It otherwise wonderful but I still can't use the Freerunner as a normal cellphone with it yet as I still get echo on the other side both for calls coming in and for the ones going out. My other phone is basically falling apart so I'll need to move to Freerunner for phone calls as well so I'd like to ask, which distros are currently the best for it. As I've understood the FSO does not have the echo problem [citation needed] so I thought I'd move to that. Are there any better options? I'd prefer a distro where I can use opkg but If none of these have decent call quality then I'll settle for something else. Yogiz QTe schould be with the patch described in the recent community update... if you want to use your fr only as a phone... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
Yogiz schrieb: Hi, I'm currently using a quite customized but up to date version of Om2008.9 testing (equal to Om2008.12?). It otherwise wonderful but I still can't use the Freerunner as a normal cellphone with it yet as I still get echo on the other side both for calls coming in and for the ones going out. My other phone is basically falling apart so I'll need to move to Freerunner for phone calls as well so I'd like to ask, which distros are currently the best for it. As I've understood the FSO does not have the echo problem [citation needed] so I thought I'd move to that. Are there any better options? I'd prefer a distro where I can use opkg but If none of these have decent call quality then I'll settle for something else. Yogiz QTe schould be with the patch described in the recent community update... if you want to use your fr only as a phone... Since there is a known workaround, why doesn't it get applied? I know, it's an undocumented feature, etc. But until a better solution is found, it would be better than nothing imo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
om2008.12 is completly echo free. In the other hand, when gsm signal is very week, there is a little buzz. Noboby has complained about it, but this is the first thing I ask :p Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Yogiz escribió: Hi, I'm currently using a quite customized but up to date version of Om2008.9 testing (equal to Om2008.12?). It otherwise wonderful but I still can't use the Freerunner as a normal cellphone with it yet as I still get echo on the other side both for calls coming in and for the ones going out. My other phone is basically falling apart so I'll need to move to Freerunner for phone calls as well so I'd like to ask, which distros are currently the best for it. As I've understood the FSO does not have the echo problem [citation needed] so I thought I'd move to that. Are there any better options? I'd prefer a distro where I can use opkg but If none of these have decent call quality then I'll settle for something else. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
Kosa wrote: om2008.12 is completly echo free. Not really. If I have the volume up more than the half slider, then some people complain hearing an echo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Kosa wrote: om2008.12 is completly echo free. Not really. If I have the volume up more than the half slider, then some people complain hearing an echo. But is there an improvement over 2008.9? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
Yogiz wrote: But is there an improvement over 2008.9? Yes. The setting where the echo doesn't appear is loud enough to understand the caller clearly. In an noisy environment it could get problematic, though. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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If I have the volume up more than the half slider, then some people complain hearing an echo. the echo is only partially handled by the fr. depending on the spot you're in it happens with other phones too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
Hackable1 is echo free no ? (personnaly i have no echo) ka...@altern.org wrote: Yogiz schrieb: Hi, I'm currently using a quite customized but up to date version of Om2008.9 testing (equal to Om2008.12?). It otherwise wonderful but I still can't use the Freerunner as a normal cellphone with it yet as I still get echo on the other side both for calls coming in and for the ones going out. My other phone is basically falling apart so I'll need to move to Freerunner for phone calls as well so I'd like to ask, which distros are currently the best for it. As I've understood the FSO does not have the echo problem [citation needed] so I thought I'd move to that. Are there any better options? I'd prefer a distro where I can use opkg but If none of these have decent call quality then I'll settle for something else. Yogiz QTe schould be with the patch described in the recent community update... if you want to use your fr only as a phone... Since there is a known workaround, why doesn't it get applied? I know, it's an undocumented feature, etc. But until a better solution is found, it would be better than nothing imo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
2009/1/15 Gabriel cont...@huau-gabriel.fr: Hackable1 is echo free no ? (personnaly i have no echo) I also have no echo with H1. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On OM2008.12 and I have significant echo. I managed to apply a fix to 2008.9 but doesn't appear to apply to 2008.12. Would really like a fix for this, I am using it as my day to day phone and for the most part I'm happy with it but I get complaints from callers about the echo. 2009/1/15 Gabriel cont...@huau-gabriel.fr: Hackable1 is echo free no ? (personnaly i have no echo) ka...@altern.org wrote: Yogiz schrieb: Hi, I'm currently using a quite customized but up to date version of Om2008.9 testing (equal to Om2008.12?). It otherwise wonderful but I still can't use the Freerunner as a normal cellphone with it yet as I still get echo on the other side both for calls coming in and for the ones going out. My other phone is basically falling apart so I'll need to move to Freerunner for phone calls as well so I'd like to ask, which distros are currently the best for it. As I've understood the FSO does not have the echo problem [citation needed] so I thought I'd move to that. Are there any better options? I'd prefer a distro where I can use opkg but If none of these have decent call quality then I'll settle for something else. Yogiz QTe schould be with the patch described in the recent community update... if you want to use your fr only as a phone... Since there is a known workaround, why doesn't it get applied? I know, it's an undocumented feature, etc. But until a better solution is found, it would be better than nothing imo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
On OM2008.12 and I have significant echo. I managed to apply a fix to 2008.9 but doesn't appear to apply to 2008.12. Would really like a fix for this, I am using it as my day to day phone and for the most part I'm happy with it but I get complaints from callers about the echo. doesn't 2008.12 use fso? see http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-tc1486414%7Ca1518726 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
2009/1/15 Yogiz yog...@gmail.com: Hi, I'm currently using a quite customized but up to date version of Om2008.9 testing (equal to Om2008.12?). It otherwise wonderful but I still can't use the Freerunner as a normal cellphone with it yet as I still get echo on the other side both for calls coming in and for the ones going out. I'm using SHR and I find no echo. ram http://www.looppuzzle.com http://www.hashcube.com http://ramprasad.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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There must be some other things influencing this. I have NEVER had an Echo issue. I have Revision A5 and have used pretty much every distro. Possibly, SIM Card and Service Provider nuances? I always read about the echo, echo fix etc.. and have just never had an issue. I live in NE USA and use ATT with an old Cingular SIM card (grandfathered in when they merged). -Scott Yogiz wrote: Hi, I'm currently using a quite customized but up to date version of Om2008.9 testing (equal to Om2008.12?). It otherwise wonderful but I still can't use the Freerunner as a normal cellphone with it yet as I still get echo on the other side both for calls coming in and for the ones going out. My other phone is basically falling apart so I'll need to move to Freerunner for phone calls as well so I'd like to ask, which distros are currently the best for it. As I've understood the FSO does not have the echo problem [citation needed] so I thought I'd move to that. Are there any better options? I'd prefer a distro where I can use opkg but If none of these have decent call quality then I'll settle for something else. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Is-there-an-echo-free-distro--tp2162879p2164799.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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http://n2.nabble.com/QTextended-4.4.1-tp1298701p1299157.html Playing with alsamixer during a call and reducing the mono playback volume made the echo go away apparently (although reduce it too far and my voice went away with it). You have to replace the state file as above for future calls to set the volume as the settings are clobbered as soon as you hang up/pick up. 2009/1/15 SCarlson scottrcarl...@gmail.com: There must be some other things influencing this. I have NEVER had an Echo issue. I have Revision A5 and have used pretty much every distro. Possibly, SIM Card and Service Provider nuances? I always read about the echo, echo fix etc.. and have just never had an issue. I live in NE USA and use ATT with an old Cingular SIM card (grandfathered in when they merged). -Scott Yogiz wrote: Hi, I'm currently using a quite customized but up to date version of Om2008.9 testing (equal to Om2008.12?). It otherwise wonderful but I still can't use the Freerunner as a normal cellphone with it yet as I still get echo on the other side both for calls coming in and for the ones going out. My other phone is basically falling apart so I'll need to move to Freerunner for phone calls as well so I'd like to ask, which distros are currently the best for it. As I've understood the FSO does not have the echo problem [citation needed] so I thought I'd move to that. Are there any better options? I'd prefer a distro where I can use opkg but If none of these have decent call quality then I'll settle for something else. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Is-there-an-echo-free-distro--tp2162879p2164799.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
The echo heard by the other party is influenced by the entire loop from their mic through the telco(s) to the Freerunner earpiece, through the air and/or casework to the Freerunner mic and back through the telco(s) to their earpiece. If there isn't enough gain around the loop then they won't hear echo. If echo suppression or cancellation is used effectively anywhere in the loop then they won't hear echo - this could be done by your telco. The degree of coupling between the Freerunner mic and earpiece may vary from phone to phone, so you might just have a sample with little coupling. On Thursday 15 January 2009, SCarlson wrote: There must be some other things influencing this. I have NEVER had an Echo issue. I have Revision A5 and have used pretty much every distro. Possibly, SIM Card and Service Provider nuances? I always read about the echo, echo fix etc.. and have just never had an issue. I live in NE USA and use ATT with an old Cingular SIM card (grandfathered in when they merged). -Scott Yogiz wrote: Hi, I'm currently using a quite customized but up to date version of Om2008.9 testing (equal to Om2008.12?). It otherwise wonderful but I still can't use the Freerunner as a normal cellphone with it yet as I still get echo on the other side both for calls coming in and for the ones going out. My other phone is basically falling apart so I'll need to move to Freerunner for phone calls as well so I'd like to ask, which distros are currently the best for it. As I've understood the FSO does not have the echo problem [citation needed] so I thought I'd move to that. Are there any better options? I'd prefer a distro where I can use opkg but If none of these have decent call quality then I'll settle for something else. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
Andy Kilner wrote: On OM2008.12 and I have significant echo. I managed to apply a fix to 2008.9 but doesn't appear to apply to 2008.12. Would really like a fix for this, I am using it as my day to day phone and for the most part I'm happy with it but I get complaints from callers about the echo. Qtopia-x11 compiled under Om2008.12 should include my patch [1], and with it I've NO echo at all (some long time ago I've also changed the scenarios, but they shouldn't count so much). I've not directly tested the Om2008.12 qtopia build since I'm running a self-compiled (and personalized) copy in /opt/Qtopia, but about the echo the code is nearly the same. Bye [1] https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/1267/qtopia-use-Ficgta01ModemHiddenFeatures-class-for-echo-suppression.patch -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
