Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-26 Thread jd823592
Hello, in what way can one retrieve news about this project, what is its duration estimate? Given that the project just wants to add 3G to the device it shouldnt take ages :), i will buy this device as soon as possible :). What about built-in mic/reproductor are they planned right? -- View this

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-13 Thread AstHrO FR-59
Hello Gregoire, I'm Thomas, the one who sent an email to Alexandre for finding a way to work together. First, a really big ThankYou for responding directly here, everyone is happy to see that A.I. is a company near of its (future) consumers. This project is very exciting and a lot of people

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-12 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
On 12/10/2010 04:57, Esben Stien wrote: Thomas HOCEDEZthomas.hoce...@free.fr writes: Always Innovating (A.I.), is opened to think about a collaboration They have no mailing lists for their projects?. This projects comes from us (community). So the mailing list for the

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-11 Thread Esben Stien
Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr writes: Always Innovating (A.I.), is opened to think about a collaboration They have no mailing lists for their projects?. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i .

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-10 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 09 October 2010, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: On 10/09/2010 06:15 PM, Al Johnson wrote: On Saturday 09 October 2010, Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2010/10/6 Eddered...@tkwsping.nl: Will it support headphone, with a microphone? I think it's safe nowadays to just assume Bluetooth

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-10 Thread Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau
Looks like we have 2 different opinions here: 1. attach-all-possible-staff-to-MID add new holes new connectors and so on, e.g. people dreams about open extra-cool phone. I'm a bit confused by such unrealistic direction of developing MiniMoko, and it will require at least 1-2 years. 2. Use already

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-10 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 10 October 2010, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau wrote: Looks like we have 2 different opinions here: 1. attach-all-possible-staff-to-MID add new holes new connectors and so on, e.g. people dreams about open extra-cool phone. I'm a bit confused by such unrealistic direction of

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-10 Thread Alfa21
2. Use already created MiniBook, just add gsm/3g board inside. IMHO, more realistic idea and definitely require less efforts. Certainly, space permitting. There may be enough space for navigation sensors too. They are easier to add than the 3G module, and have a similarly low

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-10 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 10 October 2010, Alfa21 wrote: And one more note: attaching anything via external 40pin port, will make device impossible to attach to Smartbook. The MiniBook can be connected as normal after removing the module. We could design the module so that it can connect everything

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-10 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
On 10/10/10 17:27, Al Johnson wrote: On Saturday 09 October 2010, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: On 10/09/2010 06:15 PM, Al Johnson wrote: On Saturday 09 October 2010, Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2010/10/6 Eddered...@tkwsping.nl: Will it support headphone, with a microphone? I think it's safe nowadays

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-10 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
On 10/10/10 17:42, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau wrote: Looks like we have 2 different opinions here: 1. attach-all-possible-staff-to-MID add new holes new connectors and so on, e.g. people dreams about open extra-cool phone. I'm a bit confused by such unrealistic direction of developing

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-10 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
On 10/10/10 20:09, Alfa21 wrote: 2. Use already created MiniBook, just add gsm/3g board inside. IMHO, more realistic idea and definitely require less efforts. Certainly, space permitting. There may be enough space for navigation sensors too. They are easier to add than the 3G module, and

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-10 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
On 10/10/10 20:53, Al Johnson wrote: On Sunday 10 October 2010, Alfa21 wrote: And one more note: attaching anything via external 40pin port, will make device impossible to attach to Smartbook. The MiniBook can be connected as normal after removing the module. We could design the module so

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-09 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/10/6 Edder ed...@tkwsping.nl: Will it support headphone, with a microphone? I think it's safe nowadays to just assume Bluetooth headphones, ie. not all devices need the extra plugs if something has to be sacrificed. 2010/10/6 giacomo 'giotti' mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it: Looks like it

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-09 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@10:52 Timo Jyrinki 2010/10/6 giacomo 'giotti' mariani: Looks like it miss USB connectivity and I need SSH strongly! Well SSH over Bluetooth personal area network works just fine, but indeed I'd also like USB port for charging and connecting other devices (host mode) please

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-09 Thread Chuck Norris
09.10.2010 16:56, Alfa21 пишет: 2010-10...@10:52 Timo Jyrinki 2010/10/6 giacomo 'giotti' mariani: Looks like it miss USB connectivity and I need SSH strongly! Well SSH over Bluetooth personal area network works just fine, but indeed I'd also like USB port for charging and connecting other

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-09 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 09 October 2010, Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2010/10/6 Edder ed...@tkwsping.nl: Will it support headphone, with a microphone? I think it's safe nowadays to just assume Bluetooth headphones, ie. not all devices need the extra plugs if something has to be sacrificed. The 40 pin

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-09 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Em 09-10-2010 15:15, Chuck Norris escreveu: Dudes, what you think about normal usb instead microusb? many devices can be easily plugged into the phone. Not for long usage of course. flash drives, tv tuners, keyboard, gamepad, etc... µ-usb means a much smaller piece, contributing to smaller

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-09 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
On 10/09/2010 08:03 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Em 09-10-2010 15:15, Chuck Norris escreveu: Dudes, what you think about normal usb instead microusb? many devices can be easily plugged into the phone. Not for long usage of course. flash drives, tv tuners, keyboard, gamepad, etc...

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-09 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
On 10/09/2010 06:15 PM, Al Johnson wrote: On Saturday 09 October 2010, Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2010/10/6 Eddered...@tkwsping.nl: Will it support headphone, with a microphone? I think it's safe nowadays to just assume Bluetooth headphones, ie. not all devices need the extra plugs if something

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-08 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 06 October 2010, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: Hi, As you might have read, Always Innovating (A.I.), is opened to think about a collaboration between them and us (Openmoko community) to build a phone based on their MiniBook. This device is a MID, without phone capabilities (except

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-07 Thread Christophe Badoit
Le 06/10/2010 17:18, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra a écrit : Em 06-10-2010 13:41, Thomas HOCEDEZ escreveu: * 480x320 3.5 capacitive touchscreen A phone is the perfect size to integrate: * personal communication (phone, IM, social network) * always present camera (still or moving

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-07 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
On 06/10/2010 16:31, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Thomas HOCEDEZthomas.hoce...@free.fr writes: There's nothing much to improve, nothing to remove, just adding GSM/3G chip. Nikolaus Schaller pointed the OPTION GTM501, which is a brilliant little chip ! And if we use the same one, the

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-07 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
On 06/10/2010 17:17, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau wrote: On 10/6/10, Thomas HOCEDEZthomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: So, the first question is : What to add for this project being interresting ? Those will be minimal functions (forget Wimax, 4G, coffe machines or color printer ...).

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-07 Thread Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau
On 10/7/10, Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: Similar about GPS. Quality of FR's GPS was much worse than in separate devices, GPS inside MID might be even worse than in FR, implement nice GPS signal in MID could be very hard task. I'll prefer use separate GPS dongle. So you wan

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-06 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
On 06/10/2010 14:41, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: Hi, As you might have read, Always Innovating (A.I.), is opened to think about a collaboration between them and us (Openmoko community) to build a phone based on their MiniBook. This device is a MID, without phone capabilities (except VoIP). So

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-06 Thread Esben Stien
Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr writes: their MiniBook. I would buy it, if it was wrist mountable; sort of a slide in mount on my wrist. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-06 Thread pike
Hi their MiniBook. I would buy it, if it was wrist mountable; sort of a slide in mount on my wrist. I would buy it. Full stop :-) I cant find any demo videoos on the minibook ? *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-06 Thread Edder
On 6 October 2010 13:41, Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: Hi, As you might have read, Always Innovating (A.I.), is opened to think about a collaboration between them and us (Openmoko community)  to build a phone based on their MiniBook. Sounds like a great idea TI cortex-A8

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-06 Thread Marc Verwerft
+1 for a GPS chip also And availability in Europe (or more general: outside US)? Regards, Marc On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Edder ed...@tkwsping.nl wrote: On 6 October 2010 13:41, Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: Hi, As you might have read, Always Innovating (A.I.), is

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr writes: There's nothing much to improve, nothing to remove, just adding GSM/3G chip. Nikolaus Schaller pointed the OPTION GTM501, which is a brilliant little chip ! And if we use the same one, the porting of distros/software will be easier from one machine

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-06 Thread giacomo 'giotti' mariani
* TI http://www.ti.com cortex-A8 with 3D and video acceleration * 512MB (RAM) + 256MB (NAND) Memory * Main storage: 8GB microSD card * 480x320 3.5 capacitive touchscreen * 30fps VGA front webcam * Wifi 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth class 2.1 * Video output HDMI HD

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-06 Thread Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau
On 10/6/10, Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: So, the first question is : What to add for this project being interresting ? Those will be minimal functions (forget Wimax, 4G, coffe machines or color printer ...). As for me I just want Voice Calls/SMS and thats all. Even gprs/3G not

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-06 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Em 06-10-2010 13:41, Thomas HOCEDEZ escreveu: * 480x320 3.5 capacitive touchscreen A phone is the perfect size to integrate: * personal communication (phone, IM, social network) * always present camera (still or moving pictures) * computational needs (ssh somewhere, do stuff) * run

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau maxpose...@gmail.com writes: Similar about GPS. Quality of FR's GPS was much worse than in separate What do you mean by quality? Just TTFF? Together with rtklib you can get great precision. ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-06 Thread Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau
On 10/6/10, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau maxpose...@gmail.com writes: Similar about GPS. Quality of FR's GPS was much worse than in separate What do you mean by quality? Just TTFF? Together with rtklib you can get great precision. Sorry, I

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-06 Thread swap38
Le 06/10/2010 14:41, Thomas HOCEDEZ a écrit : Hi, As you might have read, Always Innovating (A.I.), is opened to think about a collaboration between them and us (Openmoko community) to build a phone based on their MiniBook. IMHO, this is probably the best news since a (too) long time !

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-06 Thread Chuck Norris
06.10.2010 19:41, Thomas HOCEDEZ ?: Hi, As you might have read, Always Innovating (A.I.), is opened to think about a collaboration between them and us (Openmoko community) to build a phone based on their MiniBook. This device is a MID, without phone capabilities (except VoIP). So the