Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-16 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Mark Arvidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, but will it blend?


Ahah :)

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Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-15 Thread James Olney
maybe mokoninja could get behind the scenes and snap some pics or vids..

On 15/04/2008, nickd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi first post :) i don't suppose as part of the open nature of the
 production that the few sick people (myself included) in the community could
 see possibly some videos of the testing? namely the destructive tests? i've
 learnt how to use technology by breaking it and would like to see the snuf
 videos if possible

  -nick


  steve wrote:

  ya, I was telling somebody earlier I worked on an experimental
  plane for 5 years: we built 2. 500 Million per copy.
  we flew them for a little while. Then they took one.
  Shook it to bits; broke its back; and tore its wings off.
  bastards.
 
 
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  The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
  Still, poor Freerunners... :'(
 
  On 4/14/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
   One minute of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a product
   free of defects :)
  
   2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  
 The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are destructive
tests.
Where we try to break the phone.
   
   
   
  
 
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Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-15 Thread Matt Manjos
Calling it a snuff video is a little disturbing, but I too would like
to see some behind the scenes videos of production. I guess that in
the end, one electronics fabrication plant is just like every other
plant, but some testing videos would be cool to see.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:08 AM, James Olney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 maybe mokoninja could get behind the scenes and snap some pics or vids..



  On 15/04/2008, nickd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   hi first post :) i don't suppose as part of the open nature of the
   production that the few sick people (myself included) in the community 
 could
   see possibly some videos of the testing? namely the destructive tests? i've
   learnt how to use technology by breaking it and would like to see the snuf
   videos if possible
  
-nick
  
  
steve wrote:
  
ya, I was telling somebody earlier I worked on an experimental
plane for 5 years: we built 2. 500 Million per copy.
we flew them for a little while. Then they took one.
Shook it to bits; broke its back; and tore its wings off.
bastards.
   
   
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The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Still, poor Freerunners... :'(
   
On 4/14/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
 One minute of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a 
 product
 free of defects :)

 2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


   The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are destructive
  tests.
  Where we try to break the phone.
 
 
 

   
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Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-15 Thread Tim Shannon
Yeah, I'm up for any new content, especially on the freerunner.  Everything
I've seen online is of the 1973, and I'd like to see what kind of
performance difference there is.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Matt Manjos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Calling it a snuff video is a little disturbing, but I too would like
 to see some behind the scenes videos of production. I guess that in
 the end, one electronics fabrication plant is just like every other
 plant, but some testing videos would be cool to see.

 On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:08 AM, James Olney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  maybe mokoninja could get behind the scenes and snap some pics or vids..
 
 
 
   On 15/04/2008, nickd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi first post :) i don't suppose as part of the open nature of the
production that the few sick people (myself included) in the
 community could
see possibly some videos of the testing? namely the destructive
 tests? i've
learnt how to use technology by breaking it and would like to see the
 snuf
videos if possible
   
 -nick
   
   
 steve wrote:
   
 ya, I was telling somebody earlier I worked on an experimental
 plane for 5 years: we built 2. 500 Million per copy.
 we flew them for a little while. Then they took one.
 Shook it to bits; broke its back; and tore its wings off.
 bastards.


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 Subject: Re: PVT Update.

 The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
 Still, poor Freerunners... :'(

 On 4/14/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  One minute of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a
 product
  free of defects :)
 
  2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are
 destructive
   tests.
   Where we try to break the phone.
  
  
  
 

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RE: PVT Update.

2008-04-15 Thread steve
 Ha,

   I've talked to Ninja about doing a Vid of the first production build.
   The destructive test would also be a kewl thing.

   

 

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Subject: Re: PVT Update.

maybe mokoninja could get behind the scenes and snap some pics or vids..

On 15/04/2008, nickd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi first post :) i don't suppose as part of the open nature of the 
 production that the few sick people (myself included) in the community 
 could see possibly some videos of the testing? namely the destructive 
 tests? i've learnt how to use technology by breaking it and would like 
 to see the snuf videos if possible

  -nick


  steve wrote:

  ya, I was telling somebody earlier I worked on an experimental plane 
  for 5 years: we built 2. 500 Million per copy.
  we flew them for a little while. Then they took one.
  Shook it to bits; broke its back; and tore its wings off.
  bastards.
 
 
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  Subject: Re: PVT Update.
 
  The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
  Still, poor Freerunners... :'(
 
  On 4/14/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
   One minute of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a 
   product free of defects :)
  
   2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  
 The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are 
destructive tests.
Where we try to break the phone.
   
   
   
  
 
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RE: PVT Update.

2008-04-15 Thread steve
It's gallows humor. If you have ever watched your hard work
Undergo destructive test, you don't know whether to laugh or cry. So, you
try to do a little of both.

I've asked that we do some kind of video when we go to Mass Pro. I never
thought of doing a 
Video of  destructive test, but I think it's a cool idea.  

 

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Calling it a snuff video is a little disturbing, but I too would like to see
some behind the scenes videos of production. I guess that in the end, one
electronics fabrication plant is just like every other plant, but some
testing videos would be cool to see.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:08 AM, James Olney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 maybe mokoninja could get behind the scenes and snap some pics or vids..



  On 15/04/2008, nickd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   hi first post :) i don't suppose as part of the open nature of the  
  production that the few sick people (myself included) in the 
 community could   see possibly some videos of the testing? namely the 
 destructive tests? i've   learnt how to use technology by breaking it 
 and would like to see the snuf   videos if possible  -nick
 steve wrote:
  
ya, I was telling somebody earlier I worked on an experimental   
  plane for 5 years: we built 2. 500 Million per copy.
we flew them for a little while. Then they took one.
Shook it to bits; broke its back; and tore its wings off.
bastards.
   
   
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 for Openmoko community discussionSubject: Re: PVT Update.
   
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Still, poor Freerunners... :'(
   
On 4/14/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
 One minute of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure 
 a product free of defects :) 2008/4/14, steve 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


   The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are 
 destructive  tests.
  Where we try to break the phone.
 
 
 

   
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Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Arvidson
Yes, but will it blend?
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Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-14 Thread ramsesoriginal
That's really great news!
And by the way, Steve, thank you for the constant updates (and the
whole bunch of updates of today), it feels great beeing informed!

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Christ van Willegen
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 Steve, all,


  On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:01 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are destructive tests.
  :

   So, short version: design is verified. Hardware is production worthy. Yeild
results are good.

  Thanks for the update! I'm really looking forward to swiping my PayPal
  account :-)

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Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-14 Thread Alexander Frøyseth

I agree
I love to buy my NEO soon, lets hope they don't break them xD


ramsesoriginal skrev:

That's really great news!
And by the way, Steve, thank you for the constant updates (and the
whole bunch of updates of today), it feels great beeing informed!

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Christ van Willegen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Steve, all,


 On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:01 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are destructive tests.
 :



 So, short version: design is verified. Hardware is production worthy. Yeild
  

   results are good.

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Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-14 Thread Michele Renda
One minute of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a product
free of defects :)

2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


   The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are destructive
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 Where we try to break the phone.

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Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-14 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)

steve wrote:

1. A final release of software to the factory. Bug Fixing will go on after
this, but the image we commit is one we will stick with for a while. 
Don't ask me what a while is. I'll talk about the software release

late Next week and let you all know what made it into the first release and
what will come later.


This point isn't so clear to me: what you mean for release of 
software? Are you developing a new release of the software on closed 
doors and you'll release it soon? Or maybe are you only talking about 
testing kernel and other low-level softwares?



So, short version: design is verified. Hardware is production worthy. Yeild
results are good.


This is a really happy news btw...!

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Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-14 Thread NeoSleg





On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:47:38 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 steve wrote:

 1. A final release of software to the factory. Bug Fixing will go on

 after

 this, but the image we commit is one we will stick with for a while.

 Don't ask me what a while is. I'll talk about the software release

 late Next week and let you all know what made it into the first release

 and

 what will come later.

 

 This point isn't so clear to me: what you mean for release of

 software? Are you developing a new release of the software on closed

 doors and you'll release it soon? Or maybe are you only talking about

 testing kernel and other low-level softwares?

 



I guess he's speaking about the factory software ;) Not the neo one.


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Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-14 Thread Federico Lorenzi
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:02 PM, NeoSleg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





  On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:47:38 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)


  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   steve wrote:

   1. A final release of software to the factory. Bug Fixing will go on

   after

   this, but the image we commit is one we will stick with for a while.

   Don't ask me what a while is. I'll talk about the software release

   late Next week and let you all know what made it into the first release

   and

   what will come later.

  

   This point isn't so clear to me: what you mean for release of

   software? Are you developing a new release of the software on closed

   doors and you'll release it soon? Or maybe are you only talking about

   testing kernel and other low-level softwares?

  



  I guess he's speaking about the factory software ;) Not the neo one.
Hmm, I interpreted it as the (final) Openmoko firmware that would be
flashed onto the device at manufacturing?

Cheers,
Federico

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Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-14 Thread Ortwin Regel
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Still, poor Freerunners... :'(

On 4/14/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One minute of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a product
 free of defects :)

 2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are destructive
  tests.
  Where we try to break the phone.
 


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RE: PVT Update.

2008-04-14 Thread steve
Ok.

 I'm talking about the software that will go on the phone when it is built,
and then the downloads that will be available.

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steve wrote:
 1. A final release of software to the factory. Bug Fixing will go on after
 this, but the image we commit is one we will stick with for a while. 
 Don't ask me what a while is. I'll talk about the software release
 late Next week and let you all know what made it into the first release
and
 what will come later.

This point isn't so clear to me: what you mean for release of 
software? Are you developing a new release of the software on closed 
doors and you'll release it soon? Or maybe are you only talking about 
testing kernel and other low-level softwares?

 So, short version: design is verified. Hardware is production worthy.
Yeild
 results are good.

This is a really happy news btw...!

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RE: PVT Update.

2008-04-14 Thread steve
ya, I was telling somebody earlier I worked on an experimental
plane for 5 years: we built 2. 500 Million per copy.
we flew them for a little while. Then they took one.
Shook it to bits; broke its back; and tore its wings off.
bastards.


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Subject: Re: PVT Update.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Still, poor Freerunners... :'(

On 4/14/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One minute of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a product
 free of defects :)

 2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are destructive
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Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-14 Thread nickd
hi first post :) i don't suppose as part of the open nature of the 
production that the few sick people (myself included) in the community 
could see possibly some videos of the testing? namely the destructive 
tests? i've learnt how to use technology by breaking it and would like 
to see the snuf videos if possible


-nick

steve wrote:

ya, I was telling somebody earlier I worked on an experimental
plane for 5 years: we built 2. 500 Million per copy.
we flew them for a little while. Then they took one.
Shook it to bits; broke its back; and tore its wings off.
bastards.


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Subject: Re: PVT Update.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Still, poor Freerunners... :'(

On 4/14/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

One minute of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a product
free of defects :)

2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


  The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are destructive
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Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-13 Thread Christ van Willegen
Steve, all,

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:01 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are destructive tests.
:
  So, short version: design is verified. Hardware is production worthy. Yeild
  results are good.

Thanks for the update! I'm really looking forward to swiping my PayPal
account :-)

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