Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
Joerg Reisenweber wrote: see: http://www.electronicproductonline.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1781 Has anyone ordered one of these? I keep getting cart is empty. However would this work too? connected to the standard cable that comes with the FR? It is a female to female, so one end would plug into the FR cable, and the other into your peripheral. http://www.amazon.com/USB-Type-Female-Coupler-Adapter/dp/B000I97N0S (Its also a whole lot cheaper ;) -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
Am So 20. Juli 2008 schrieb Tobias Diedrich: Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, 2008/7/19 Tobias Diedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looking at the Freerunner connector, it looks like it's really a Mini-B Female connector instead of the Mini-AB Female connector as stated on http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware Can someone else confirm this? Yes. See http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Package_Contents Well, that doesn't contradict with a Mini-AB female connector though. As it's name says a Mini-AB femal connector should accept both Mini-A and Mini-B cables, which makes sense because Mini-B is used for client mode and Mini-A for host mode and the Freerunner supports both. The wrong connector means that an 'offical' USB-OTG cable like http://www.amazon.de/Hama-00074214-OTG-Kabeladapter-Mini-USB-A-Stecker-USB-A-Kupplung/dp/B000EORX7U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=ce-deqid=1216581564sr=8-1 can't be used unfortunately... And I can't find a USB-A receptacle to Mini-USB-A plug cable on amazon. :/ Only this plug-adapter (maybe, it does not explicitly state A or B AFAICS), which will work I guess, but I'd rather like a cable. http://www.amazon.de/Adapter-BUCHSE-Stecker-Verl%C3%A4ngerung-Anschluss/dp/B001372BVA/ref=sr_1_44?ie=UTF8s=ce-deqid=1216581654sr=8-44 Seems like I'll have to cannibalize the Hama cable. ^_^; see: http://www.electronicproductonline.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1781 Will the next Freerunner revision have a proper mini USB-AB receptacle like the one at http://www.cypressindustries.com/mini_usb_ab_connector.html ? The spec sheet is at http://www.cypressindustries.com/pdf/CCMUSBAB-32005-700.pdf I found the connector via http://www.cypressindustries.com/products/usb.html Also, where can I find the spec sheet for the receptacle currently on the Freerunner? I'd like to solder on my own. Any thoughts? -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | http://www.electronicproductonline.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1781 | | Will the next Freerunner revision have a proper mini USB-AB | receptacle like the one at | http://www.cypressindustries.com/mini_usb_ab_connector.html ? How do you think what is on Freerunner right now differs from that? Seems to be what we got already. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiNlRIACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqB3QCggr0kGd/atbyUnpP7LPsHLQO8 DOEAn1vTzFIbe+7l62l/ABrlcvwTTtL+ =ki1E -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
On Monday 28 July 2008, Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: http://www.electronicproductonline.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id =1781 | Will the next Freerunner revision have a proper mini USB-AB | receptacle like the one at | http://www.cypressindustries.com/mini_usb_ab_connector.html ? How do you think what is on Freerunner right now differs from that? Seems to be what we got already. No - that link is to a mini-ab connector while the Freerunner uses a mini-b connector. I'd need to check the USB specs to be sure, but I think the suggestion is now that devices that can do both client and host mode use the mini-ab socket while the mini-b socket is used for devices that only do client-mode. Whether this had been agreed when the Freerunner was being designed is another matter. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
On 28 Jul 2008, at 10:44, Andy Green wrote: ... Will the next Freerunner revision have a proper mini USB-AB receptacle like the one at http://www.cypressindustries.com/mini_usb_ab_connector.html ? How do you think what is on Freerunner right now differs from that? Seems to be what we got already. If you look at the Freerunner its USB port is kinda trapezoid. Kinda equilateral trapezoid (??) with a kink in the shorter sides. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trapeziod If you compare the two they are clearly different: http://www.cypressindustries.com/products/images/ ccmusbb-32005-201.gif http://www.cypressindustries.com/products/images/ ccmusbab-32005-700.gif The Freerunner's USB port is that widely used on other devices as a USB mini B connector. I have here immediately to hand a Canon dSLR camera, a Sony PSP gameboy and Sony console joypad that all feature similar sockets (and at least charge with the same cable that the Freerunner uses). If you look at the cypressindustries link that Charles posted you'll see it's a different shape - the metal rim has 6 straight sides. It reminds me of a firewire (400?) connector, although its aspect ratio is quite opposite. I think the point is that the other devices I mentioned are *only* USB B. They are connected to computers only as peripherals. You will not connect a keyboard or a mouse to a camera or joypad. The Freerunner, on the other hand, may be connected to a computer as a peripheral (it is USB B for firmware flashing or if the FR were to pretend to be a solid-state storage device) or may have peripherals connected to it (the FR must behave as USB A if a keyboard or mouse is connected). As I read this it the Cypress mini USB-AB receptacle Charles links to is intended to distinguish that it is *not merely* a USB B device, but capable of USB A functions also. I conjecture such a USB AB connector might be split in order to perform both A and B functions simultaneously, or provide other features not available merely abusing a USB B socket. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | The Freerunner's USB port is that widely used on other devices as a | USB mini B connector. Seems you guys are right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Types_of_USB_connector ... hum well they all have 5 pins, I guess the only difference in practice is going to be availability of appropriate cables. It does not mention mini-AB there, it only mentions micro-AB, so now I know even less than I did when I started :-) - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiNrNAACgkQOjLpvpq7dMrQ7wCfdMco9NmAyvYibdGlcbSAbKma LrMAn0GVTZqepWGU03OktnyHfz8Jg4R4 =OWYD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
Am Mo 28. Juli 2008 schrieb Andy Green: It does not mention mini-AB there, it only mentions micro-AB, so now I know even less than I did when I started :-) so doesn't http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/CabConn20.pdf Seems there's no such thing like a standardized mini-A, and thus for sure no mini-AB :-/ ??? cheers jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
On Monday 28 July 2008, Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | The Freerunner's USB port is that widely used on other devices as a | USB mini B connector. Seems you guys are right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Types_of_USB_connector ... hum well they all have 5 pins, I guess the only difference in practice is going to be availability of appropriate cables. It does not mention mini-AB there, it only mentions micro-AB, so now I know even less than I did when I started :-) Looks like mini-ab and mini-a were deprecated over a year ago in favour of the micro varieties. I've never seen a micro-usb connector! http://www.usb.org/developers/Deprecation_Announcement_052507.pdf It doesn't help that the spec now consists of the original document plus all the subsequent errata and supplements. http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Monday 28 July 2008, Andy Green wrote: It does not mention mini-AB there, it only mentions micro-AB, so now I know even less than I did when I started :-) Looks like mini-ab and mini-a were deprecated over a year ago in favour of the micro varieties. I've never seen a micro-usb connector! http://www.usb.org/developers/Deprecation_Announcement_052507.pdf Here is a picture comparing mini USB (looks like the USB-B variety) on the left and the new micro-USB (a, b, or ab?)on the right. http://www.intomobile.com//images/2007/05/27/motorola_razr2_v8img_3995.jpg What is micro-USB? http://www.tech-faq.com/micro-usb.shtml Some articles on mobile phone manufacturers switching: http://www.berryreview.com/2008/07/11/javelin-sports-micro-usb-jack-instead-of-current-mini-usb/ http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2007/09/21/phone-manufacturers.html http://news.cnet.com/Pros-seem-to-outdo-cons-in-new-phone-charger-standard/2100-1041_3-6209247.html http://edageek.com/2007/01/04/usb-if-micro-usb/ http://www.eetasia.com/ART_8800475645_590626_NP_a34a00de.HTM http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/05/mobile-phones-to-adopt-smaller-micro-usb-connector/ http://www.everythingusb.com/nokia_8600_luna_13128.html http://www.mobileburn.com/pressrelease.jsp?Id=2992 http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/tech-news/?p=1238 http://www.theunwired.net/?item=standardization-omtp-recommends-micro-usb-as-the-standard-for-mobile-phones http://news.zdnet.co.uk/communications/0,100085,39289524,00.htm Adapters: http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/accessory-details/?q_categoryid=cat1370029q_sku=sku1070095 http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=22483cat=3454 http://www.shopalltel.com/product/product.htm?prId=33455 http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9446449 Chargers: http://plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/mobile/mobile-headset-accessories/car-charger-micro-usb-corded Manufacturers of micro-USB connectors: http://www.hirose.com/news/news7.htm http://www.molex.com/cmc_upload/0/000/417/929/microusb_pr.html Any information on when the Freerunner will make the switch to micro-USB? The deprecation announcement above makes this seems imminent. Are there any peripherals (keyboards, etc.) for mobile devices that use micro-USB? -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
2008/7/21 Federico Lorenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see: http://www.electronicproductonline.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1781 /j Product not found? Make sure that the URL ends in 1781, and not 17. The link as quoted fromSeattle Web Creations' email had the end cut off -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
On Monday 21 July 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: see: http://www.electronicproductonline.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id =1781 /j It mentions automatic mode switch from client to host. Is this applicable to the Freerunner too? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Monday 21 July 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: | see: | http://www.electronicproductonline.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id | =1781 /j | | It mentions automatic mode switch from client to host. Is this applicable to | the Freerunner too? We don't monitor ID pin yet to automate this, but we will. You need to provide some magic sysfs poking by hand at the moment to push it between host and device modes. # tell the USB stack the USB socket is logically a host now ~ echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode # get the Freerunner to provide 5V out on the USB socket ~ echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode set them to device and 0 to go back to being a USB gadget. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiEVcYACgkQOjLpvpq7dMp+OwCePsmB3ST7Km6V7HM1OlmoWPQo 31YAnjv/5C/ZyY7HyTkGda/y7dV+QQ99 =nS1b -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
A good piece of advice* DO an ifconfig usb0 down first! On 7/21/08 2:24 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Monday 21 July 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: | see: | http://www.electronicproductonline.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id | =1781 /j | | It mentions automatic mode switch from client to host. Is this applicable to | the Freerunner too? We don't monitor ID pin yet to automate this, but we will. You need to provide some magic sysfs poking by hand at the moment to push it between host and device modes. # tell the USB stack the USB socket is logically a host now ~ echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode # get the Freerunner to provide 5V out on the USB socket ~ echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode set them to device and 0 to go back to being a USB gadget. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiEVcYACgkQOjLpvpq7dMp+OwCePsmB3ST7Km6V7HM1OlmoWPQo 31YAnjv/5C/ZyY7HyTkGda/y7dV+QQ99 =nS1b -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Gino O'Donnell / Director Seattle Web Creations, LLC 206.883.7601 SeattleWebCreations.com Website Design with Search Engines in Mind ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
ma, 2008-07-21 kello 10:24 +0100, Andy Green kirjoitti: We don't monitor ID pin yet to automate this, but we will. Funky. You need to provide some magic sysfs poking by hand at the moment to push it between host and device modes. ~ echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode ~ echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode There was some discussion at some point if the Freerunner can be in host mode without providing power _while_ charging from outside 5V (for some special applications like robotics, obviously with special non-standard cabling arrangements), but I don't know if that ended up with an answer. Will only changing the usb_mode accomplish this? -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/ Transhumanist - WTA member - URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/ Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - URL:http://www.singinst.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
ma, 2008-07-21 kello 10:24 +0100, Andy Green kirjoitti: We don't monitor ID pin yet to automate this, but we will. Funky. You need to provide some magic sysfs poking by hand at the moment to push it between host and device modes. ~ echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode ~ echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode There was some discussion at some point if the Freerunner can be in host mode without providing power _while_ charging from outside 5V (for some special applications like robotics, obviously with special non-standard cabling arrangements), but I don't know if that ended up with an answer. Will only changing the usb_mode accomplish this? -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/ Transhumanist - WTA member - URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/ Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - URL:http://www.singinst.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | ma, 2008-07-21 kello 10:24 +0100, Andy Green kirjoitti: | We don't monitor ID pin yet to automate this, but we will. | | Funky. | | You need to provide some magic sysfs poking by hand at the moment to | push it between host and device modes. | ~ echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode | ~ echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode | | There was some discussion at some point if the Freerunner can be in host | mode without providing power _while_ charging from outside 5V (for some | special applications like robotics, obviously with special non-standard | cabling arrangements), but I don't know if that ended up with an answer. | Will only changing the usb_mode accomplish this? Yes, you should set only usb_mode = host if you give external power too. If you set the hostmode guy additionally, it does three things: ~ 1) makes freerunner generate 5V for USB socket to power the device ~ 2) disables charging battery (otherwise we try to charge with the power we generated from battery :-) ) ~ 3) enables 15K pulldowns on USB D+ and D- When we give external power but want logical host mode, we want 3) but not 1) and 2). So the answer is to not set hostmode to 1 in that case, and add external 15K pulldowns on USB D+ and D-. Then you have logical host mode that can work with external USB device, you do not generate 5V for it because you provide it, and you do not disable charging from this external power you are giving. This is the scheme for Joerg's Y Cable concept (which somebody actually made with success I saw the other week). - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiEWoIACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpmxwCfWaIbPGge0Wnl3y87POEBh3V8 1BgAn2/iNjW1ALM+uPBTmqHaRKrqPi18 =qpF5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
On Monday 21 July 2008, Mikko Rauhala wrote: ma, 2008-07-21 kello 10:24 +0100, Andy Green kirjoitti: We don't monitor ID pin yet to automate this, but we will. Funky. You need to provide some magic sysfs poking by hand at the moment to push it between host and device modes. ~ echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode ~ echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode There was some discussion at some point if the Freerunner can be in host mode without providing power _while_ charging from outside 5V (for some special applications like robotics, obviously with special non-standard cabling arrangements), but I don't know if that ended up with an answer. Will only changing the usb_mode accomplish this? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware See the USB Host section - 47k from ID to ground, 15k from D+ to ground, 15k from D- to ground, and only do the first echo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
On Monday 21 July 2008, Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Monday 21 July 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: | see: http://www.electronicproductonline.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id | =1781 /j | | It mentions automatic mode switch from client to host. Is this applicable to | the Freerunner too? We don't monitor ID pin yet to automate this, but we will. This is the bit I was interested in. Is the ID resistor value standardised? I know we have 47k for the 1A charger and for the Y cable. You need to provide some magic sysfs poking by hand at the moment to push it between host and device modes. # tell the USB stack the USB socket is logically a host now ~ echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode # get the Freerunner to provide 5V out on the USB socket ~ echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode set them to device and 0 to go back to being a USB gadget. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | We don't monitor ID pin yet to automate this, but we will. | | This is the bit I was interested in. Is the ID resistor value standardised? I | know we have 47k for the 1A charger and for the Y cable. You either leave ID open or tie it to 0V to signal depending on if you are a host or device cable. Not sure which way around is which. We do have 47K to 0V on ID for charger, but it isn't actually the standard, which came out after it was too late for us. Chargers are meant to tie D+ and D- lines together to show they are a charger. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiEaRwACgkQOjLpvpq7dMp/wgCeKRiAUwQ122AnyIH3AlbH/t+D fKUAn228xs1sIzYMi5M2cajjswBhzKH6 =uG/R -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
Hello, 2008/7/19 Tobias Diedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looking at the Freerunner connector, it looks like it's really a Mini-B Female connector instead of the Mini-AB Female connector as stated on http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware Can someone else confirm this? Yes. See http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Package_Contents HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, 2008/7/19 Tobias Diedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looking at the Freerunner connector, it looks like it's really a Mini-B Female connector instead of the Mini-AB Female connector as stated on http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware Can someone else confirm this? Yes. See http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Package_Contents Well, that doesn't contradict with a Mini-AB female connector though. As it's name says a Mini-AB femal connector should accept both Mini-A and Mini-B cables, which makes sense because Mini-B is used for client mode and Mini-A for host mode and the Freerunner supports both. The wrong connector means that an 'offical' USB-OTG cable like http://www.amazon.de/Hama-00074214-OTG-Kabeladapter-Mini-USB-A-Stecker-USB-A-Kupplung/dp/B000EORX7U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=ce-deqid=1216581564sr=8-1 can't be used unfortunately... And I can't find a USB-A receptacle to Mini-USB-A plug cable on amazon. :/ Only this plug-adapter (maybe, it does not explicitly state A or B AFAICS), which will work I guess, but I'd rather like a cable. http://www.amazon.de/Adapter-BUCHSE-Stecker-Verl%C3%A4ngerung-Anschluss/dp/B001372BVA/ref=sr_1_44?ie=UTF8s=ce-deqid=1216581654sr=8-44 Seems like I'll have to cannibalize the Hama cable. ^_^; -- Tobias PGP: http://9ac7e0bc.uguu.de このメールは十割再利用されたビットで作られています。 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
Am So 20. Juli 2008 schrieb Tobias Diedrich: Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, 2008/7/19 Tobias Diedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looking at the Freerunner connector, it looks like it's really a Mini-B Female connector instead of the Mini-AB Female connector as stated on http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware Can someone else confirm this? Yes. See http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Package_Contents Well, that doesn't contradict with a Mini-AB female connector though. As it's name says a Mini-AB femal connector should accept both Mini-A and Mini-B cables, which makes sense because Mini-B is used for client mode and Mini-A for host mode and the Freerunner supports both. The wrong connector means that an 'offical' USB-OTG cable like http://www.amazon.de/Hama-00074214-OTG-Kabeladapter-Mini-USB-A-Stecker-USB-A-Kupplung/dp/B000EORX7U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=ce-deqid=1216581564sr=8-1 can't be used unfortunately... And I can't find a USB-A receptacle to Mini-USB-A plug cable on amazon. :/ Only this plug-adapter (maybe, it does not explicitly state A or B AFAICS), which will work I guess, but I'd rather like a cable. http://www.amazon.de/Adapter-BUCHSE-Stecker-Verl%C3%A4ngerung-Anschluss/dp/B001372BVA/ref=sr_1_44?ie=UTF8s=ce-deqid=1216581654sr=8-44 Seems like I'll have to cannibalize the Hama cable. ^_^; see: http://www.electronicproductonline.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1781 /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
Joerg Reisenweber wrote: see: http://www.electronicproductonline.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1781 /j Yes, something like this should be added to the contents of the FreeRunner box. Would likely be cheap to buy in bulk, but amazingly useful for users who could instantly connect a world of existing USB devices to their FreeRunner. Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
On 7/20/08 7:29 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see: http://www.electronicproductonline.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=17 81 /j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I have the exact one and it works perfectly ;) -- Gino O'Donnell / Director Seattle Web Creations, LLC 206.883.7601 SeattleWebCreations.com Website Design with Search Engines in Mind ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see: http://www.electronicproductonline.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1781 /j Product not found? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
