Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-08-05 Thread -stacy
Andy Green wrote: About the 600sec thing, you can get the GPS chip to report 4 times a second instead of once a second, maybe that can be to do with it. But it is strange, noticing the heavy filtering on our results I wonder if a lot of those samples coming so quickly were actually

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: Thanks for your work Stacy. | About the 600sec thing, you can get the GPS chip to report 4 times a | second instead of once a second, maybe that can be to do with it. But | it is strange, noticing the

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-08-05 Thread -stacy
Andy Green wrote: | Has anyone | figured out how to kick the GPS receiver into UBX mode? I would be | curious to see if that changes anything. It's actually documented by Ublox in here (Okular eats it)

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-08-01 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | One last thing, the voltage scaling and clock rate reduction patches | aren't in the kernel you used, they should be around in tomorrow's | packages: if you have 600 sec to spare it would be

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-08-01 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | After a reboot, it worked ok so its a false alarm - sorry! Thanks for clearing it up. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora -

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-08-01 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Le vendredi 01 août 2008, Andy Green a écrit : opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether Having updated the kernel and everything, I get a FATAL error with that: opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether Installing kernel-module-g-ether

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-08-01 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Le vendredi 01 août 2008, Andy Green a écrit : | opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether | | Having updated the kernel and everything, I get a FATAL error with that: | | opkg install

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-31 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | and a negative - I moved the maps in tangoGPS from /tmp to the (orig | freerunner) sdcard and it only works partially or not at all. This is | offline usage. If I am online and I delete the map cache so

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-31 Thread -stacy
I did some testing today to add some more data points (or fuel on the fire, depending on your point of view :-) What I did was run three test, one with the SD card removed, one with the SD card installed but idle and one with the SD card being used heavily. For each test, I ran simultaneous

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-31 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I did some testing today to add some more data points (or fuel on the | fire, depending on your point of view :-) Let's say you did nice work there enabling us to converge on an understanding of the issue

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-31 Thread Vinc Duran
One last thing, the voltage scaling and clock rate reduction patches aren't in the kernel you used, they should be around in tomorrow's packages: if you have 600 sec to spare it would be interesting to see if they made any change :-) - -Andy Hi Andy, To get that kernel you reference

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-31 Thread W.Kenworthy
After a reboot, it worked ok so its a false alarm - sorry! BillK On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 08:38 +0100, Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | and a negative - I moved the maps in tangoGPS from /tmp to the (orig |

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-30 Thread Jay Vaughan
(We have external LNA) It means it can track with a 16dBm reduction in GPS signal after it made the satellite acquisitions. So if you understood it will get a fix OK with the software workaround, and we saw many people report this, you should expect the tracking phase to work better

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-30 Thread Jay Vaughan
I would take this to mean that your current location drifts from the actual spot to places not quite where you are standing. Exactly. I will try to upload some logs (just discovered the /tmp change in tangogps, grr.. some test data has been lost) in the next few days that demonstrate this

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-30 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/30 Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just sayin', not trying to stir the pot. I've been testing this GPS fix every day since it arrived, by tracking my progress to work, and if I zoom too closely (meaning there is more SD I/O on map refreshes) the GPS goes wild. Do you (all) have also

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Just sayin', not trying to stir the pot. I've been testing this GPS | fix every day since it arrived, by tracking my progress to work, and | if I zoom too closely (meaning there is more SD I/O on map

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-30 Thread Pawel Kowalak
On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Jay Vaughan wrote: My ride to and from work is through a wide open space with no obstructions, lots of blue sky, and for sure .. SD I/O still massively impacts GPS *accuracy*. Not just in the acquisition phase, but also tracking .. That's strange. I didn't test

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Jay Vaughan wrote: | My ride to and from work is through a wide open space with no | obstructions, lots of blue sky, and for sure .. SD I/O still massively | impacts GPS

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-30 Thread Lech Karol Pawłaszek
Jay Vaughan wrote: (We have external LNA) It means it can track with a 16dBm reduction in GPS signal after it made the satellite acquisitions. So if you understood it will get a fix OK with the software workaround, and we saw many people report this, you should expect the tracking

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-30 Thread Jay Vaughan
We're not done with what we can do to mitigate it in software. These guys should be in tomorrow's kernel. okay i'll continue testing and logging in the meantime .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | We're not done with what we can do to mitigate it in software. These | guys should be in tomorrow's kernel. | | | okay i'll continue testing and logging in the meantime .. Great. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-30 Thread Pawel Kowalak
| Track is very accurate (no jump-offs the road) in the city. Earlier I | used Garmin | GPS60 and tracks from it were way worse than from FR. | | I used today's kernel and u-boot. That's pretty encouraging, thanks. Hi again, I made another test, driving back home. This time, I zoomed

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-30 Thread Jay Vaughan
So, to me, GPS works great now. I had more problems with accuracy of my Garmin outdoor device. on todays drive home i also did a trace - and got wildly sporadic results when tangogps had to read maps again off the disk .. i do not have the latest kernel, however, as it doesn't appear to

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I drove here almost 100km/h (but don't tell anyone) on max zoom, to | read tiles faster from the card. As you can see, no jump offs from the | road. | | So, to me, GPS works great now. I had more problems

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-30 Thread W.Kenworthy
and a negative - I moved the maps in tangoGPS from /tmp to the (orig freerunner) sdcard and it only works partially or not at all. This is offline usage. If I am online and I delete the map cache so tango starts clean, it loads the maps fine - probably caches them in ram. If I go offline to

RE: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-29 Thread steve
Start with the software fix. It should slove the problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Annie Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 3:01 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-29 Thread Scott Derrick
From everything I've heard a software only fix will not be enough. Unless you ditch your sd card as a data store. All new FR's have the HW fix and new software will be written to take advantage of that HW platform. The software fix alone allows you to get a fast TTFF but after that, sd card data

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-29 Thread Steven Kurylo
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Scott Derrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From everything I've heard a software only fix will not be enough. Unless you ditch your sd card as a data store. All new FR's have the HW fix and new software will be written to take advantage of that HW platform. The

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | The software fix alone allows you to get a fast TTFF but after that, sd | card data transfers are just to noisy to maintain a high quality GPS | data stream. Yes it works but poorly, which is better than

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-29 Thread Mike Hodson
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Scott Derrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From everything I've heard a software only fix will not be enough. Unless you ditch your sd card as a data store. I haven't had any problems with

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-29 Thread Steven Kurylo
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Mike Hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Scott Derrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From everything I've heard a software only fix will not be enough. Unless you