Re: new to openmoko

2008-11-09 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, November 09, 2008 a las 07:42:57PM +0530, Mallikarjun V escribió: Dear allI am very new to openmoko and neofreerunner and in need of sum help.I recently brought neo and om2007. was there as factory built.I reinstalled om2008.9 but dont know wat to do further.* there is no

Re: new to openmoko

2008-11-09 Thread Mallikarjun V
Dear allI am very new to openmoko and neofreerunner and in need of sum help.I recently brought neo and om2007. was there as factory built.I reinstalled om2008.9 but dont know wat to do further.* there is no terminal* there anr no other applications except sudoku, locations, contacts,

Re: new to openmoko

2008-11-09 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, November 09, 2008 a las 08:17:50PM +0530, Mallikarjun V escribió: Dear allI am very new to openmoko and neofreerunner and in need of sum help.I recently brought neo and om2007. was there as factory built.I reinstalled om2008.9 but dont know wat to do further.* there is no

Re: new to openmoko

2008-11-09 Thread Andreas Wallin
How does this setup work with suspend ? Does it work to have as the every day phone ? Or does it suffer from the regular flaws that sometimes it does not wake up from suspend on call and so on ? Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Sunday, November 09, 2008 a las 08:17:50PM +0530, Mallikarjun V

Re: new to openmoko

2008-11-09 Thread Erin Yueh
Matthias Apitz wrote: [...] Connect your FR with USB to a computer with access to Internet and SSH to the FR; that should allow you to follow the procedure; check the Wiki for how to do this and how to configure USB networking. And please, assemble your email in some better (readable)

Re: new to openmoko

2008-11-09 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, November 09, 2008 a las 09:41:20PM +0100, Andreas Wallin escribió: How does this setup work with suspend ? I do not use suspend; Does it work to have as the every day phone ? Or does it suffer from the regular flaws that sometimes it does not wake up from suspend on call

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-18 Thread Michael Shiloh
clare wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote: Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Hi

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-17 Thread Nick Guenther
On 1/16/08, andy selby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/01/2008, Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me. Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ? I haven't flashed an openmoko image in a while so I'm

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-17 Thread Nick Guenther
On 1/17/08, Barry Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, I've flashed the rootfs and a new kernel. So then I got all excited and inserted my SIM into it and powered up. Turns out I should have read some more. My current phone (Nokia N80 - can I run openmoko on that?), is a 3G phone and

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-17 Thread Carlo E. Prelz
Subject: Re[2]: New to OpenMoko Date: Thu 17 Jan 08 01:11:13PM +0100 Quoting Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): No, openmoko uses GTK. Yes, the current incarnation. There are various interest groups working on different and higher level APIs. I'm very confident

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-17 Thread john
/me is another QWERTY fan. I recently had to replace my dead Treo 650 with another QWERTY solution. I bought a cheap smart phone running Windows Mobile. I am now in league with the devil :) IMO I think there is a market for low-cost QWERTY smart phones. I think something like the Sidekick Slide

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-17 Thread Ian Darwin
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 02:03:01PM +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Well, first, it will be less of a decision, but rather something like survival of the fittest. Second, compiled languages are fine for performance critical stuff. Coding application logic in a scripting language makes much

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-17 Thread Michael Shiloh
Thanks Clare, You are absolutely right, and we've known it. We need to make this more visible. It's just been a matter of resources and priorities. We will get to this very shortly.. Michael clare wrote: Hi Michael, THis is a very interesting site. It is *very* disappointing that it has

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-17 Thread clare
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote: Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Hi Michael, Another

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-16 Thread Lorn Potter
Barry Steele wrote: Hi, I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney). I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up. I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the following: Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found. Try passing init=

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-16 Thread Michael Shiloh
Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Michael Barry Steele wrote: Hi, I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-16 Thread Barry Steele
Thanks Michael, I will let you know how we get on. Looks like a learning opportunity. Love the look of the machine btw. Stay well, Barry Michael Shiloh wrote: Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-16 Thread Barry Steele
Thanks Lorn, Will let you know how I get on. Barry Lorn Potter wrote: Barry Steele wrote: Hi, I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney). I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up. I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-16 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 08:55:53AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: The neo does not come with a root filesystem, so you'll have to flash one. For me, Qtopia images from qtopia.net work great :) Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me. Why would I use Qtopia

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-16 Thread Lorn Potter
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Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-16 Thread Lorn Potter
Wilkinson, Alex wrote: 0n Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 08:55:53AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: The neo does not come with a root filesystem, so you'll have to flash one. For me, Qtopia images from qtopia.net work great :) Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me.

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-16 Thread andy selby
On 16/01/2008, Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me. Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ? I haven't flashed an openmoko image in a while so I'm not sure how easy it is to get it usable as a phone

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-16 Thread Lorn Potter
andy selby wrote: On 16/01/2008, Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me. Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ? I haven't flashed an openmoko image in a while so I'm not sure how easy it is to get

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-16 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Lorn Potter writes: andy selby wrote: u, better programming API? ;) No, openmoko uses GTK. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-16 Thread Barry Steele
Hi Folks, I've flashed the rootfs and a new kernel. So then I got all excited and inserted my SIM into it and powered up. Turns out I should have read some more. My current phone (Nokia N80 - can I run openmoko on that?), is a 3G phone and it seems that the neo doesn't like it. I then

RE: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-16 Thread Tim Murphy
Steele Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2008 4:42 PM To: List for OpenMoko community discussion Subject: Re: New to OpenMoko Hi Folks, I've flashed the rootfs and a new kernel. So then I got all excited and inserted my SIM into it and powered up. Turns out I should have read some more. My current phone

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-16 Thread Jens Fursund
On Jan 17, 2008 1:45 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * battery life of ~ 5hours This is endemic to the hardware. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech I thought we cleared out that this was not a hardware problem? Or maybe not a hardware

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-16 Thread clare
Hi Michael, THis is a very interesting site. It is *very* disappointing that it has been so well hidden from me as a wiki user - .. YOu will see at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories that the latest from * Official downloads * Recent/latest builds is 21 Nov and 1 Dec.