Re: new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin 0.3

2008-09-23 Thread Christian Adams
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Am 23.09.2008 um 11:33 schrieb TeXitoi:

> Christian Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> the next version is already on it's way to sebastian to package
>> a little gui-update here and there, some notifications (if python-
>> pynotify and notification-mananger(-xfce) installed) and a thumb-
>> friendly way to change lcd-brightness
>> what i will add next would be a configfile where you can toggle which
>> hw-icons you like to get displayed and which not
>>
>> other suggestions what you (the users) want could be placed on this
>> list .. :)
>
> I have sent by accident a mail to Sebastian Ohl instead of here about
> a review of this plugin.  I'll try to say all I have sayed.
>
> This plugin is great, I use it with xfce4-panel and matchbox (not
> XFCE) in user mode.
>
> bugs:
>  - the battery part seems to depend of a battery.py, which is not in
>the debian package, so I don't now where it came from.

this was a quick and dirty hack to call battery.py from http:// 
hdr.meetr.de/neo/openmoko/battery/ from panel-plugin
just 'install' the ipk you get there and it should work for now - on  
my todo-list is a panel-plugin internal rework of battery.py

>  - The debian package do not have enough dependencies, at least
>python-gtk is needed.
>  - the usb applet suppose that pushing the button always succeed,  
> which
>is not the case. For example, in user mode, the plugin is not  
> allowed
>to charge module or change the usb mode.

the usb-part has no functionality at all for now in any mode as it is  
not yet possible to 'rmmod g_file_storage'
i just build the gui-part to show what i have in mind .. and do the  
background-work when the module-handling works as intendet

>  - the panel plugin became unusable after a fso-frameworkd restart.

not testet what's happening when frameworkd restarts - i guess it has  
something to do with dbus-things i'm not firm yet

> usability problems:
>  - some part of the plugin is not usable in user mode, for example the
>new usb applet.

see above

>  - the plugin is composed of too much icons.

also on my todo-list is a config-pane to choose which icons you like  
to see and which not

>  - toggling mode of wifi, gsm and gps is too easy and can be done by
>accident.

this issue is addressed with the version i send to sebastian ohl - he  
seems to have no regular internet-connection

>
> Proposed features:
>  - cobine the status icons into an unique icon (wifi, gps, bt, gsm
>on/off, maybe usb).  When pushing this icon, a window appear that
>propose to change the different options (module on/off, usb  
> mode, usb
>gadget).

at least for me i like to just look at my freerunner and see what  
status the hardware and so is in as it could also be toggled by other  
programs
so combining icons would not be done by me

>  - use a real bar for batterie status instead of lots of icons.

that's the way gtk.StatusIcon works ..

>  - use a bar for gsm instead of a "4 circle bar".

see above - as long as noone tells me how to do a bar in a  
gtk.StatusIcon there will be icons ..

>  - print GSM network in the GSM icon instead of the red bars (maybe
>not a good idea since the name can be long).

i also think this would be too long in most cases (ok - 'O2' might  
work but 'T-Mobile D' is way too long)

>  - provide a matchbox-keyboard-toggle compatible with the applet, or
>give an option to use the AUX button to toggle the keyboard  
> directly
>into the panel plugin.

at the moment the panel-plugin doesn't handle AUX-button ..

> -- 
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ciao, morlac
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Re: new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin 0.3

2008-09-23 Thread Fox Mulder
I really love this plugin for use with debian. :)
But i have a few suggestions for future releases.

The GSM icon didn't change at all when disabled. Only when the gsm
provider is activated the gsm-strengh bar changes. When disabling gsm in
the older version the icon got a striked through circle like the other
icons but this didn't happen anymore.

In the first version when clicking the battery icon a popup show the
current state. This popup was removed because it didn't show any more
information than the hint when floating over the battery icon. Now i
would love to get the popup again but with more battery information.
In /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/uevent all
information could be found and i think the following would be nice to
see (i added the unit in brackets):

POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Not charging
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=4158000 (µV)
POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=16500 (µA)
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=1215585 (µAh)
POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP=291 (°C * 10)
POWER_SUPPLY_TIME_TO_EMPTY_NOW=275280 (s)
POWER_SUPPLY_TIME_TO_FULL_NOW=3932100 (s)
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=99 (%)

It would also be nice if we could change the charging current within
this popup to force it to 100mA/500mA/1000mA. This could be done with
/sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/force_usb_limit_dangerous

And i really love to see the new feature of changing the lcd brightness,
which would save quite some battery power. :)

Ciao,
 Rainer

Christian Adams wrote:
> the next version is already on it's way to sebastian to package
> a little gui-update here and there, some notifications (if python- 
> pynotify and notification-mananger(-xfce) installed) and a thumb- 
> friendly way to change lcd-brightness
> what i will add next would be a configfile where you can toggle which  
> hw-icons you like to get displayed and which not
> 
> other suggestions what you (the users) want could be placed on this  
> list .. :)
> 
> ciao, morlac - meanwhile co-developer of openmoko-panel-plugin
> 
> p.s. the usb-chooser will get it's functionality when 'rmmod  
> g_file_storage' gets functional
> 
> Am 21.09.2008 um 11:45 schrieb Fox Mulder:
> 
>> I think he doesn't say more about the openmoko-panel-plugin because  
>> the
>> older versions are floating around this mailing list for quite some  
>> time. :)
> 
>> It is a small xfce plugin to show and change the status of wlan, gps,
>> bluetooth, battery, gsm, usb and keyboard.
>> It is like the indicator bar of OM2008.8 at the top. It is really a
>> timesaver and now also shows the gsm state like strength and carrier
>> which zhone doesn't anymore.
> 
>> Ciao,
>>  Rainer
> 
>> Olivier Berger wrote:
>>> Sebastian Ohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
 Hi everyone,

 here is a new version of the panel plugin.

>>> Care to be more explicit on what this can be ? ... either you're
>>> addressing the community at large and most probably want to provide a
>>> more detailed description of what the program is... or it's not on  
>>> the
>>> right list, then ;)
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
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Re: new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin 0.3

2008-09-23 Thread TeXitoi
Christian Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> the next version is already on it's way to sebastian to package
> a little gui-update here and there, some notifications (if python- 
> pynotify and notification-mananger(-xfce) installed) and a thumb- 
> friendly way to change lcd-brightness
> what i will add next would be a configfile where you can toggle which  
> hw-icons you like to get displayed and which not
> 
> other suggestions what you (the users) want could be placed on this  
> list .. :)

I have sent by accident a mail to Sebastian Ohl instead of here about
a review of this plugin.  I'll try to say all I have sayed.

This plugin is great, I use it with xfce4-panel and matchbox (not
XFCE) in user mode.

bugs:
 - the battery part seems to depend of a battery.py, which is not in
   the debian package, so I don't now where it came from.
 - The debian package do not have enough dependencies, at least
   python-gtk is needed.
 - the usb applet suppose that pushing the button always succeed, which
   is not the case. For example, in user mode, the plugin is not allowed
   to charge module or change the usb mode.
 - the panel plugin became unusable after a fso-frameworkd restart.

usability problems:
 - some part of the plugin is not usable in user mode, for example the
   new usb applet.
 - the plugin is composed of too much icons.
 - toggling mode of wifi, gsm and gps is too easy and can be done by
   accident.

Proposed features:
 - cobine the status icons into an unique icon (wifi, gps, bt, gsm
   on/off, maybe usb).  When pushing this icon, a window appear that
   propose to change the different options (module on/off, usb mode, usb
   gadget).
 - use a real bar for batterie status instead of lots of icons.
 - use a bar for gsm instead of a "4 circle bar".
 - print GSM network in the GSM icon instead of the red bars (maybe
   not a good idea since the name can be long).
 - provide a matchbox-keyboard-toggle compatible with the applet, or
   give an option to use the AUX button to toggle the keyboard directly
   into the panel plugin.

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mind.'' -- Donald E. Knuth, the TeXbook

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Re: new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin 0.3

2008-09-23 Thread vale

perhaps it is possible to include some more gps infos, like satellites, time,
etc ... also warm/cold start gps and signalstrength like in the gpsui would
be great.

thx very much for your effort, its great on debian :)

br

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Re: new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin 0.3

2008-09-22 Thread Christian Adams
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the next version is already on it's way to sebastian to package
a little gui-update here and there, some notifications (if python- 
pynotify and notification-mananger(-xfce) installed) and a thumb- 
friendly way to change lcd-brightness
what i will add next would be a configfile where you can toggle which  
hw-icons you like to get displayed and which not

other suggestions what you (the users) want could be placed on this  
list .. :)

ciao, morlac - meanwhile co-developer of openmoko-panel-plugin

p.s. the usb-chooser will get it's functionality when 'rmmod  
g_file_storage' gets functional

Am 21.09.2008 um 11:45 schrieb Fox Mulder:

> I think he doesn't say more about the openmoko-panel-plugin because  
> the
> older versions are floating around this mailing list for quite some  
> time. :)
>
> It is a small xfce plugin to show and change the status of wlan, gps,
> bluetooth, battery, gsm, usb and keyboard.
> It is like the indicator bar of OM2008.8 at the top. It is really a
> timesaver and now also shows the gsm state like strength and carrier
> which zhone doesn't anymore.
>
> Ciao,
>  Rainer
>
> Olivier Berger wrote:
>> Sebastian Ohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> here is a new version of the panel plugin.
>>>
>>
>> Care to be more explicit on what this can be ? ... either you're
>> addressing the community at large and most probably want to provide a
>> more detailed description of what the program is... or it's not on  
>> the
>> right list, then ;)
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>
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Re: new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin 0.3

2008-09-21 Thread Fox Mulder
I think he doesn't say more about the openmoko-panel-plugin because the
older versions are floating around this mailing list for quite some time. :)

It is a small xfce plugin to show and change the status of wlan, gps,
bluetooth, battery, gsm, usb and keyboard.
It is like the indicator bar of OM2008.8 at the top. It is really a
timesaver and now also shows the gsm state like strength and carrier
which zhone doesn't anymore.

Ciao,
 Rainer

Olivier Berger wrote:
> Sebastian Ohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> here is a new version of the panel plugin. 
>>
> 
> Care to be more explicit on what this can be ? ... either you're
> addressing the community at large and most probably want to provide a
> more detailed description of what the program is... or it's not on the
> right list, then ;)
> 
> Regards.
> 

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Re: new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin 0.3

2008-09-20 Thread Olivier Berger
Sebastian Ohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi everyone,
>
> here is a new version of the panel plugin. 
>

Care to be more explicit on what this can be ? ... either you're
addressing the community at large and most probably want to provide a
more detailed description of what the program is... or it's not on the
right list, then ;)

Regards.

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